What a shame!!

Started by Bull Schmitt, December 13, 2010, 06:42:41 PM

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Bull Schmitt

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River City John

Idiot.
Imbecility.
Someone with more money than common sense.


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bedbugbilly

I don't remember who said it, but . . . . . "sometimes you just can't fix stupid!"   ;D

hawkeye2

    First time I've been to Gunrunner, don't see a seller's handle or feedback there,  Is that the norm for the site?  Could it be a defarbed and customized Italian gun?  It looks awfull good for a reblued original and I see no way to check the seller's honesty.  The end of the rammer is cut just like a Uberti though I don't know how the originals were cut.  When I sold a Uberti I would pull the rammer and take a ball stone to it to cut a rounded end so as not to deform the ball when loading.  All the other Italian Rems had a concave rounded end.

Fox Creek Kid

The ventilated rib will help cool the barrel when you're swingin' fast on them plates!!  ;D :D ;)

Books OToole

I once saw a picture of a Rolls-Royce with flames painted down the front fenders.  It was accompanying an article about people "with beer tastes and a champagne pocket books." ::)

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Mogorilla

I wondered on the defarbed prospect as well.   Does seem in real good shape.   Well Books, when I was in high school I used to ride in the back of a VW with a rolls royce front.  I called the driver Jeeves, then he would threaten to make me walk.   I have always had Champagne tastes and a beer (cheap beer) pocket book.

RickB

Just when you think you've seen the stupidest thing you ever could see, something like this comes along and shows you you're not even close to hitting the bottom of the well of ignorance. Incredible.  :o :P :'(
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hawkeye2

      It sold for $330, not too bad for an Italian gun with all that work if the "light pitting" in the bore is just that and your club will let you shoot it in competition.  I still feel it is not an original.  No external pitting, edges way too sharp to have had much metal removed in polishing like you would have to do to the average CW revolver and no dishing around the screw holes either.  The screws aren't buggered up, bolt locking notchers not battered from years of use.  Someone would have had to start with a pristene pistol not that there aren't idiots out there that would do something like that.  There were no photos of any markings and the only reference to any was the serial number given in the description.

StrawHat

I agree with much of what you fellows are saying about the condition being too good for an original BUT I think you are looking at it with young eyes.  When I first got into shooting, there were only a few replicas and most of the guns on the line were antiques, many of them in great shape.  To get the most accuracy out of them, top shooters would bore out cylinders and even install S&W rear sights.  I never saw a rib but other modifications were fairly common.  Same with rebluing.  This may be the real deal but that rib is ugly.  The only vent rib that looks decent is on a shotgun.
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hawkeye2

        "I think you are looking at it with young eyes."   I wish I was lookin at it with young eyes, I would probably shoot much better today.  Joined the NRA in 57, shot my first black powder in 59.  if it was an original it was probably done in the 40s or 50s.  Someone posted an original Rogers & Spencer a few months back that had been extensively modified for target shooting.  I don't remember if it was on this forum or another one.  Did the NMLRA have a class that would let you shoot something like that?

StrawHat

Quote from: hawkeye2 on December 16, 2010, 09:50:06 PM
        "I think you are looking at it with young eyes."   I wish I was lookin at it with young eyes, I would probably shoot much better today.  Joined the NRA in 57, shot my first black powder in 59.  if it was an original it was probably done in the 40s or 50s.  Someone posted an original Rogers & Spencer a few months back that had been extensively modified for target shooting.  I don't remember if it was on this forum or another one.  Did the NMLRA have a class that would let you shoot something like that?...

I agree about the target scores! Like you I was shooting a long time ago.  Not sure under what Rules Maker we were competing, or if there even was a ruling association, but in Maryland, Virginia, and Pennsylvania, there were always competitions going on and in that area a lot of revolvers and such from the ACW.  Lots of guys started with originals and then moved to using replicas, once the replicas proved themselves. 
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Messerist

$330 for an original?  Even if it does look like an aged movie star with too many face jobs, that is cheap!  I think that hawkeye2 is correct in his assumption that this is a modified reproduction.

Drayton Calhoun

I can think of a few words that fit this, but, well, ridiculous is about the best that I can put here...
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Bishop Creek

Quote from: hawkeye2 on December 16, 2010, 09:50:06 PM
        "I think you are looking at it with young eyes."   I wish I was lookin at it with young eyes, I would probably shoot much better today.  Joined the NRA in 57, shot my first black powder in 59.  if it was an original it was probably done in the 40s or 50s.  Someone posted an original Rogers & Spencer a few months back that had been extensively modified for target shooting.  I don't remember if it was on this forum or another one.  Did the NMLRA have a class that would let you shoot something like that?

There was a army surplus/gunshop in my town back in the '60s and I still remember seeing the wall covered with original Colt's 1851 Navy and 1860 Army pistols hanging from wooden pegs going for around $90 each, plus racks of original Springfield 45/70s and Remington rolling block rifles for $200. If only I knew then, what I know now.

Dusty Morningwood

Might make a neat "steampunk" western revolver. ;D

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