HELP.....with 1873 innards

Rube Burrows · January 24, 2011, 05:39:16 PM

Ok, so I picked up my first 73 today. Well, like the curious fellow I am, I took the side plates off to have a look. I knew that the side plates make it easier to clean and whatnot but I didnt know that the parts would just fall out of the gun.

Well I now have two parts of the gun.....that are NOT in the gun and need to get them back the proper way. Anyone know where to find a schematic or something?

Fox Creek Kid · January 24, 2011, 05:46:50 PM

http://marauder.homestead.com/files/winchester_73.html

Rube Burrows · January 24, 2011, 05:52:44 PM

Quote from: Fox Creek Kid on January 24, 2011, 05:46:50 PM
http://marauder.homestead.com/files/winchester_73.html

I figured it out. Man, that was easy. I guess I see what all the fuss is about with these 73s.

Thanks

Pettifogger · January 24, 2011, 06:08:41 PM

Quote from: Rube Burrows on January 24, 2011, 05:52:44 PM

I figured it out. Man, that was easy. I guess I see what all the fuss is about with these 73s.

Thanks

Good. Saves me, in a cruel moment, having to say anyone that can't figure out how to put the links back in a 73 shouldn't be allowed to own a screw driver.

Rube Burrows · January 24, 2011, 06:34:38 PM

Quote from: Pettifogger on January 24, 2011, 06:08:41 PM
Good. Saves me, in a cruel moment, having to say anyone that can't figure out how to put the links back in a 73 shouldn't be allowed to own a screw driver.

I just jumped the gun when parts started falling out of the gun. Then after a min I decided to look....and wouldnt you know.....easy as pie.

Pettifogger · January 24, 2011, 08:48:52 PM

Quote from: Rube Burrows on January 24, 2011, 06:34:38 PM

I just jumped the gun when parts started falling out of the gun. Then after a min I decided to look....and wouldnt you know.....easy as pie.

That's why people like 73's. Reliable and easy to take apart for an occasional complete cleaning.

Rube Burrows · January 24, 2011, 09:55:50 PM

Quote from: Pettifogger on January 24, 2011, 08:48:52 PM
That's why people like 73's. Reliable and easy to take apart for an occasional complete cleaning.

Yeah, I heard they were easy but didnt think they were that simple. Those side plates really make a difference.

This one seems to have had an action job and possibly short stroked. How would one tell if it has been short stroked?

Modoc · January 24, 2011, 10:09:12 PM

Yep, they are a great gun!

Learn how the whole thing goes together. Last match I had a bulged case slip through the cracks and into the magazine. Full disassembly to get the stinker out of the rifle. It jammed me up on the second shot because it wouldn't chamber. I had the rifle completely apart and back together with enough time to load and shoot the next stage with an 11 person posse. Just make sure that you have a gun smithing screwdriver with you with ALL of the correct tips. I replaced my Lever and Lifter spring screws with Torx heads and had to raid the tool box in the truck

. Live and learn

Rube Burrows · January 24, 2011, 10:12:33 PM

Quote from: Modoc on January 24, 2011, 10:09:12 PM
Yep, they are a great gun!

Learn how the whole thing goes together. Last match I had a bulged case slip through the cracks and into the magazine. Full disassembly to get the stinker out of the rifle. It jammed me up on the second shot because it wouldn't chamber. I had the rifle completely apart and back together with enough time to load and shoot the next stage with an 11 person posse. Just make sure that you have a gun smithing screwdriver with you with ALL of the correct tips. I replaced my Lever and Lifter spring screws with Torx heads and had to raid the tool box in the truck . Live and learn

I usually get to know my guns. I have had my 92s apart many times. Even did a NKJ action job on one of them. I usually like to know how things work. I just didnt expect the insides of this rifle to come apart so easy. (fall out of gun). Thought something may have broke. I have not fired this one yet. Got it used though.

Abilene · January 24, 2011, 10:13:41 PM

Quote from: Rube Burrows on January 24, 2011, 09:55:50 PM
....This one seems to have had an action job and possibly short stroked. How would one tell if it has been short stroked?

Here is a comparison photo from Jimmy Spurs' website:
http://www.cowboygunworks.com/images/shortstrokes_copy.jpg

Rube Burrows · January 24, 2011, 10:21:42 PM

Quote from: Abilene on January 24, 2011, 10:13:41 PM
Here is a comparison photo from Jimmy Spurs' website:
http://www.cowboygunworks.com/images/shortstrokes_copy.jpg

Thanks for the pic. I def. think mine is short stroked.

Pettifogger · January 24, 2011, 10:33:36 PM

Sure looks like its short stroked.

Rube Burrows · January 24, 2011, 10:48:35 PM

Quote from: Pettifogger on January 24, 2011, 10:33:36 PM
Sure looks like its short stroked.

Thought it might be.

Fox Creek Kid · January 25, 2011, 06:29:04 PM

Quote from: Rube Burrows on January 24, 2011, 09:55:50 PM...This one seems to have had an action job and possibly short stroked. How would one tell if it has been short stroked?

When it blows up by firing out of battery, usually.

Rube Burrows · January 25, 2011, 09:30:36 PM

Quote from: Fox Creek Kid on January 25, 2011, 06:29:04 PM
When it blows up by firing out of battery, usually.

I was informed that this one is prob. a first generation short stroke kit.

Goody · January 26, 2011, 12:00:06 PM

One other caveat. Looking at your last photo, right above the front pivot of the toggle link. See that little drift pin? It will fall out, trust me.

Rube Burrows · January 28, 2011, 09:51:10 PM

Quote from: Goody on January 26, 2011, 12:00:06 PM
One other caveat. Looking at your last photo, right above the front pivot of the toggle link. See that little drift pin? It will fall out, trust me.

I'll keep that in mind.