Soy grease

Started by Noz, January 31, 2011, 10:53:08 AM

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Noz

Waxes are funny stuff. My mother is the recording secretary of a fairly large nursing home. They went out of their way to find a floor wax that would be easy to apply, shine and also be non-slip. The theory being that a slick floor would cause falls. Much to their surprise they had a huge upsurge in the number of falls. Seems the patrons of age do not pick their feet up when they walk. Their feet were sticking to the non slip wax and they were going down like bowling pins. Had to go back to the old style slick wax.

My quest is not for knowledge but for an inexpensive, easy to obtain ingredients, functional black powder lube that will work well under the rigors of CAS shooting. For my purposes, if it keeps my 1866, 20" barrel 44-40 fouling free, it has done its job. Whether it is a Revolutionary War recipe(which works quite well) or an auto parts store recipe makes no difference to me. If it smells good then that's better. My latest batch has some leftover candle stubs from Christmas and smells like strawberries.

The Pearl Lube and it's derivatives also make a great arbor lube for the 1860s.

Mako

Quote from: Noz on February 05, 2011, 12:00:29 PM
...My quest is not for knowledge but for an inexpensive, easy to obtain ingredients, functional black powder lube that will work well under the rigors of CAS shooting...

???!!!

What about them Vegan Cowboys!  You started a movement, you can't abandon it now!
A brace of 1860s, a Yellowboy Saddle Rifle and a '78 Pattern Colt Scattergun
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Noz

Vegan only applies to things you are gonna eat. If you want to eat Vegan bullet lube, far be it from me to hold you back.  I would like warning so I ain't tweenst you and the outhouse.

I did see that one of the old bullet lubes has an identical formula to Chapstick.  Does that count?

Sir Charles deMouton-Black

Quote from: Noz on February 05, 2011, 01:32:27 PM
Vegan only applies to things you are gonna eat. If you want to eat Vegan bullet lube, far be it from me to hold you back.  I would like warning so I ain't tweenst you and the outhouse.

I did see that one of the old bullet lubes has an identical formula to Chapstick.  Does that count?

Yeah, the 103 stuff. 

These Days I'm mostly a vegan hunter!  I am, however, an omniverous eater.
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THE SUBLYME & HOLY ORDER OF THE SOOT (SHOTS)
Those who are no longer ignorant of History may relive it,
without the Blood, Sweat, and Tears.
With apologies to George Santayana & W. S. Churchill

"As Mark Twain once put it, "History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme."

Abilene

Quote from: john boy on February 04, 2011, 07:27:32 PM
Mako, I too subscribe to Ranch 13's philosophy ... Eat more beef mutton the west wasn't won on a salad. ;D

Saw this bumper sticker once:

   Vegetables Aren't Food
   Vegetables Are What Food Eats

BTW, I picked up a 1 lb. container of Soy Wax flakes at Michaels craft store in the candle-making dept.

Mako

Sir Charles deMouton-Black and Noz,

I tell you what...you two are definitely behind the times.  Vegan is more than eating, it's all about not "exploiting" animals in any form.

You two need to get some fabric boots and new holsters and belts not made from animal products.  It is preferable to use fibers from plant that died of natural causes or were humanely harvested.  Make sure you only support farmers that practice full organic and holistic practices,  If you use bags, pouches, clothing, belts, etc. made from fibers make sure they at least reasoned with the living plants explaining that the balance of their essence would be plowed back into the soil to make them immortal...

Noz, if you're going to lead this movement of VEEPS cowboys you need to turn it up a notch.

~Mako

A brace of 1860s, a Yellowboy Saddle Rifle and a '78 Pattern Colt Scattergun
MCA, MCIA, MOAA, MCL, SMAS, ASME, SAME, BMES

Drayton Calhoun

Another point about petroleum based greases, many have sodium content, i.e. salt. Hard to believe, but true. Found this out while working in spectrographic oil analysis.
The first step of becoming a good shooter is knowing which end the bullet comes out of and being on the other end.

Crow Choker

As a day job, I'm a heavy equipment operator, ie. I dig, haul, and push dirt, ie. rearrange what God created! A while back my employer was given several sleeves (boxes) of what we were advised was soy based grease to try out. No real test was taken to compare with the petroluem based grease we always used. We just used it up, no comparison with bushings greased with pet grease as to wear, water shedding, etc. I can say I saw no problems with it, it performed good. Never thought of using it for shooting purposes. My boss never did purchase any as his supplier was giving him a better price than he could get the soy grease for. The outfit that makes it is located about 30 miles south of me, go by it alot when traveling to certain job sites or visiting a daughter. Might have to make a stop, get some, and give it a try, although I've used Victor brand lithium grease for 30 some years now and have never had any binding with the cylinder/arbor in cap an ball revolvers or in any cartridge revolvers using black. Using it in a lube formula could have some possibilies, will have to try it.
Darksider-1911 Shooter-BOLD Chambers-RATS-SCORRS-STORM-1860 Henry(1866)-Colt Handgun Lover an' Fan-NRA-"RiverRat"-Conservative American Patriot and Former Keeper & Enforcer of the Law an' Proud of Being Both! >oo

rickk

Crow Choker, ever work in an area where only bio-degradable lubes are allowed?

In some areas, it will be required and specified on permits. You actually need to completely purge the old non-bio-degradable stuff out of your equipment and replace it 100% before entering the areas.

Same for chainsaw bar oil.

I have never heard anyone complain about the quality of bio-degradable stuff, only the 2x cost.


Crow Choker

rickk: No to your question, but do have contracts from one outfit that gets all bent out of shape if even a jug of oil is left sitting on the ground out of a so-called safe zone built for fluid containment. Don't get me wrong, I'm not  against anti-pollution measures, I'm as proconservation as ya can get, but some corporations, politicians, groups, and people have been hugging trees and listening to Al Gore to much. I've heard of one outfit that will order you to leave their property if they catch you taking a leak on the ground instead of using a 'porty-potty'. Quess the wacko's will want ranchers/farmers to follow their cattle around pastures with bedpans if that catches on. Enough said, don't want to 'high-jack' the orginal soy grease subject.
Darksider-1911 Shooter-BOLD Chambers-RATS-SCORRS-STORM-1860 Henry(1866)-Colt Handgun Lover an' Fan-NRA-"RiverRat"-Conservative American Patriot and Former Keeper & Enforcer of the Law an' Proud of Being Both! >oo

Sir Charles deMouton-Black

mako said; "Vegan is more than eating, it's all about not "exploiting" animals in any form."

That WAS my point. I havn't been out in "de bush" exploytin, or explodin', any aminals atall.  Therefore, a vegan hunter.

NCOWS #1154, SCORRS, STORM, BROW, 1860 Henry, Dirty Rat 502, CHINOOK COUNTRY
THE SUBLYME & HOLY ORDER OF THE SOOT (SHOTS)
Those who are no longer ignorant of History may relive it,
without the Blood, Sweat, and Tears.
With apologies to George Santayana & W. S. Churchill

"As Mark Twain once put it, "History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme."

Mako

Quote from: Sir Charles deMouton-Black on February 07, 2011, 12:32:58 AM
mako said; "Vegan is more than eating, it's all about not "exploiting" animals in any form."

That WAS my point. I havn't been out in "de bush" exploytin, or explodin', any aminals atall.  Therefore, a vegan hunter.

That's a new one on me.  "Vegan Hunter"  I like that...

I tend to like vegetarians, they're usually a bit more tender.  As far as exploiting goes I only eat the dead ones.
~Mako
A brace of 1860s, a Yellowboy Saddle Rifle and a '78 Pattern Colt Scattergun
MCA, MCIA, MOAA, MCL, SMAS, ASME, SAME, BMES

Stu Kettle

While it is never my intent, my hunting trips are sometimes veganesque. I quite often return from the filed having harmed nothing more than a little boot leather.  I maintain that this is why it is called huntin' rather than killin'.

Noz

My theory has always been, If we were supposed to eat grass then why don't we have a split upper lip and no upper teeth?

Fox Creek Kid

As Ted Kerasote pointed out years ago in his wonderful book on hunting, far more animals are killed in combining 100 acres of grain than by one bullet.  ;)

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