differences among the repro Henrys?

[kcub]

I know Uberti makes them all but like the topbreak repros I suspect they each have slight differences.

Please edify me.

grazie

[Forty Rod]

Biggest differences are markings and cost.

[Montana Slim]

Well, ya got your military model, Plain (white) finished barrel, blued barrel, charcoal blue barrel, brass frame & iron frame models. All in 44-40 or 45 Colt chambering. Might even be a few trapper models. Least thats the basics. Check taylors, Cimmaron, Uberti, etc to see whats available.

Regards,
Slim

[Pancho Peacemaker]

I know Uberti makes them all but like the topbreak repros I suspect they each have slight differences.

Please edify me.

grazie

The last NCOWS shoot I got to attend at the Texas Ten Horns, we had about 5 shooters with Henry's.  While on the rifle racks & sitting side-by-side, I did a look at wood quality, color, bluing, etc...  We had all the importers represented, and I could not see any noticable difference between those qualities. 

If you "talk to folks" (always a dangerous proposition), you will hear rumor that importer X gets the nicest wood or the actions on importer y are much nicer.  From what I can tell:  these rifles are all made on the same manufacture and assembly line in Italy.   At the end of the process, they get stamps "Taylor", or "Navy Arms", or "Cimarron" and shipped accordingly.

[Texas Lawdog]

Everyone thinks that their's is the best, just like some folks like GM better than Ford or prefer Imports over American.

[kcub]

I'm narrowing my choice to the transitional to eliminate the annoyance of the follower sliding through your hand and the danger of chainfires.

http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=296344

http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,24171.0.html

[Major 2]

There is just one chink in that armor....If you plan to shoot NCOWS the gun is not yet approved.
The Henry is , just the transitional is not...to few were produced to have been commonly available.
That's not to say research would prove different,so far it has not.


On the other hand, if NCOWS is not your goal , go for it, I like one myself.
Course I have 3 Henrys already..........

In 30 years of shooting them ,I have not had the unfortunate incident happen (knocks on wood) but I use care and pay attention.
That's not to say I have not seen it happen  to another shooter and his Henry. ( slammed follower was the cause )

Good luck, and chimein when you have your choice...I'll add you to the Henry Shooters list

[kcub]

Thanks!

I'll consider that.
Also I don't think you can get an ironframe transitional which is kind of an oxymoron being a step back and a step forward.

Hmmm... so maybe an 1866?  But then you lose that cool archaic look of the Henry.

It looks like premium wood is available on the Uberti Henry

http://www.ubertireplicas.com/lever-henry.php
http://www.uberti.com/firearms/1860_henry.php

I wonder if the other importers offer the same?  Their websites don't seem to indicate that.

Sheeyit, I dunno what to get.

...more mulling necessary...

[St. George]

While the Henry has a pleasantly 'archaic' look - the Model 1866 is likely a better choice if you have those concerns, as they were the 'product improvement' version.

Look for a rifle and not a carbine and that'll preserve more of the 'Henry' look.

The so-called 'Transitional' was built is such low numbers so as to qualify as tool room samples - and documenting one in a believable manner isn't really worth the time and effort.

As to your search for the 'best' one - in Italian guns, you need to actually 'see' them before you buy, because wood is usually the selling point and not the metal.

They seem to have metal finishing down pat - but wood quality's a crapshoot and I used to see them re-stocked with American Walnut.

Vaya,

Scouts Out!

[Grizzly Adams]

Interesting, the Uberti website lists an 18.5 inch barrel configuration that holds 10/+1.   Nice!   Looks like I can stop thinking about that hacksaw!

[Montana Slim]

If you like the features of the Transitional models, by all means get the 1866..it has everything you need.
I love mine dearly

Regards,
Slim

[kcub]

I may wind up getting a used one and saving a few bucks.

What about thoughts and opinions regarding .45 Colt vs. .44-40?

[St. George]

Look at both cartridges side by side.

You'll see that the .44-40 has an obvious taper/bottleneck, while the .45 Colt has straight walls.

The .44-40 will feed easiest of the two.

However - in the .45 Colt weapons, you can also easily use .45 Schofield - and 'that' my prove an advantage.

I've never experienced a jam in anything chambered in .45 Colt - though some have.

I ascribe it to too much speed and too little familiarity.

Vaya,

Scouts Out!

[Fox Creek Kid]

...What about thoughts and opinions regarding .45 Colt vs. .44-40?

44-40 is far better. Two words: NO BLOWBACK. 

[Major 2]

I have 2 45's and one 44/40....I don't reload so I use factory Black Hills and Ultra Max.
I also have friend that reloads BP in my 1-2 time used 45 brass.

Frankly, I have no problems associated with blow back with 45's , yes the cases are blackend about 1/3 back but no farther really
that the 44/40.
However, I do even bother having the thin 44/40 bottalnecks reloaded...
so the trade off is 45 no issue, reload 1-2 time... 44/40 no issue and pitch them.

[Montana Slim]

Genuine Gunpowder & 44-40 here......some of my cases date back to before WWII.
I've been recycling (mostly) the same brass (1200 pieces) for nearly 15 years. About 1/2 were well-used before I got them.
I have a big bucket of new brass, just-in-case.

Slim

[kcub]

Look at both cartridges side by side.

You'll see that the .44-40 has an obvious taper/bottleneck, while the .45 Colt has straight walls.

The .44-40 will feed easiest of the two.

However - in the .45 Colt weapons, you can also easily use .45 Schofield - and 'that' my prove an advantage.

I've never experienced a jam in anything chambered in .45 Colt - though some have.

I ascribe it to too much speed and too little familiarity.

Vaya,

Scouts Out!

Good points to consider to be sure.

I understand from this posting it may be possible to have a Henry that can handle .44-40, .44spl, and .44 Russian.
http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,13282.msg167017.html#msg167017