Have I been misinformed?

[Ten Wolves Fiveshooter]

I had a Tandy rep say "Huh?" when I mentioned EVOO, and asked what it was. When I told her, she said "I never heard of it", and she's been involved with leather and Tandy for a long time.

    JD, this is the problem, there are too many people that are working at jobs, that there job knowledge is very limited, Tandy isn't the Tandy it once was, WC will vouch for this, Tandy used to have some knowledgeable personnel, and maybe they still do in a few limited stores, but as a whole they have young people that just need a job, and are trying to do there best with what little they know, and like Tandy, other company's are in the same shape, I was in a Lowe's a while back, and asked a clerk where the Loc-Tite was kept, now this person told me he had never heard of it, he also volunteered that he had been working at that store for over seven years, and had never heard or seen the product I was asking for, and he even went to the front desk to ask some one there, so we gave up, we happened to be on another isle when my wife said why don't you ask that older man, so I did, and he took me right to the Loc-Tite, they had a whole 8'x8' section of it. And this goes on in most business's today, company's don't want to pay for qualified personnel.

                   We all need to rely on our own findings, do your home work, and ask questions, the right answer is out there.


                        tEN wOLVES 

[TN Mongo]

You guys have got me curious; I'm going to finish a set of holsters with EVOO just to see how they do. 

I normally finish a dyed piece with neatsfoot oil followed by Tandy's Satin Shene and then Fiebing's Carnauba Cream.  Can I still use the Satin Shene and the Carnauba Cream after EVOO and the sun, or do I need to look at a different product?  I've heard you guys talk about Skidmores, but I am unfamiliar with this product.  Does Tandy carry Skidmores?

[cowboywc]

You guys have got me curious; I'm going to finish a set of holsters with EVOO just to see how they do. 

I normally finish a dyed piece with neatsfoot oil followed by Tandy's Satin Shene and then Fiebing's Carnauba Cream.  Can I still use the Satin Shene and the Carnauba Cream after EVOO and the sun, or do I need to look at a different product?  I've heard you guys talk about Skidmores, but I am unfamiliar with this product.  Does Tandy carry Skidmores?

Howdy
Yes you can still use your finishes. I don't believe Tandy carries Skidmores.
WC

[Wiley Desperado]

TW, you're right ol pard there are some folks out there that just don't quite have the horse power they need for the wagon their drivin.  I hate it when I get on an airplane and I see the pilot reading the basic flight manual. Now let me say that the manager and most of the folks at the local Tandy store in Austin, Texas know their stuff and I very much enjoy doing business with them.  I don't know what they would say about EVOO but try to get some consensus on let's say... gun powder and see how that works out.     
Wiley 

[cowboywc]

Howdy Wiley
Wasn't Terry the Mgr down there for a while?
WC

[JD Alan]

Mongo, with my limited experience I can't see a difference between applying a light coat Neatsfoot or EVOO. One thing we don't have a lot of in Oregon is sunshine, at least in my part of the state. From what I have deduced it may make a difference if you are not going to dye the leather, but use just the oil finish and allow the sun to do whatever it's going to do.

I had an experienced saddle maker recommend Bee Natural Saddle oil, so I gave that a try, but honest to goodness, I can't see any difference between the three products in look, feel, or absorption. I've left pieces treated with all three in the sun for an entire day, and I don't see any difference. Maybe it takes more time than I've allowed to see a difference. Just my own experience   

[Ten Wolves Fiveshooter]

  Howdy Wiley


      Like I was saying I'm sure Tandy has competent personnel in some of there stores, I remember when I told an employee of the Tandy store near us that I was using both 100 % pure Neatsfoot oil and EVOO, on different leather pieces, he gave me the same song and dance, and when I explained the history of EVOO to him, he softly spoke, saying Tandy doesn't allow us to promote/ suggest or sell anything they don't sell them selves, and that they could be fired for that. but he also said he had several customers that that used EVOO, and were happy with it, so like I was saying earlier, and as WC pointed out, you could talk to a hundred leather workers and get a hundred different answers, we all need to look into products we're thinking about using before we use them, I don't have stock in EVOO, or anything else associated with leather products, as I think for the most part the others aren't either, I personally use several different products for different uses and looks, and I like to stay open minded as to trying new things, that's part of the fun in this craft. I am grateful to Chuck Burrows and Will Ghromely for tweaking  my interests in EVOO, and the natural dyes, I feel a pard can never learn enough.

  JD, the difference I've seen between the different oils is that the EVOO, oxidizes faster than the others, thats why I'll use it for a piece that I want a deeper tone, but it does take time, it doesn't happen over night, after sever months you can really see the difference. if I don't want that look I use PURE Neatsfoot oil, it's nice to have all these choices.


                            tEN wOLVES  

                     

[JD Alan]

10 Wolves, I figured there must be something in the amount of time; that 24 hours wasn't enough to see a difference between the 3 types of oil. Thanks for the great education!

[MontanaSlick]

Dont use EVOO, you will get it  on yer hands and they will wither and get cracks. Just kidding here

I restored an old slim jim that was dry and craked, smelled like mold too. It came back to life and looks like new.

I have used EVOO for over 55 yrs. and I put a dab of it in my dyes, goes a lot easier.
Not too much now, it goes a long ways.

Her's a EVOO job I did, it will last fer ages to come.

[Ten Wolves Fiveshooter]

  Very nice Slick, good color nice and rich looking, those straps have a nice sheen to them too, well, and you're right they will last a long time, and I believe the EVOO will help in that.


      tEN wOLVES 

[JD Alan]

Nice lookin work there Slick!

[MontanaSlick]

Thank you TW, yer comments mean a lot to me and the other Pards here on the forum.

I just used dye and EVOO on the straps and they polish up just fine with a wool sock.

Thanks JD, kin I get some lessons from you? Ya do mighty fine craftmanship.

Back to the Cave.

MS

[willygene]

the very best thing to use for oil on vegetable tanned leather is 100% pure neetsfoot oil no matter what any store salesman tells you go to any good custom saddle shop and ask what they use i have been building custom saddles and gunleather for 30 years and i don't use the new green ecofreindly tree hugger stuff i use the tried and tested original dyes and finishes and 100% pure neetsfoot oil. it's the only thing i will use in my shop.

[JD Alan]

Oh come on willy, tell us how you really feel

[willygene]

well im to nice to say bad things in a good place i do have manners .