drawing with double crossdraw holsters

[Cold Creek Kid]

 how would u go about the stance and drawin so you don't break the 170.

[Curley Cole]

The way I go about it is when I am ready to shoot I stand with right foot foward and left back (lefty) and am pretty much facing to the side of the stage, even if I don't move my hips my gun is already outt a the deadly zone.
for other hand I will shift my foot foward while drawing other gun, if double cross, I can then do a hip twist to clear the zone..
practice at home with snapcaps.
curley

[Driftwood Johnson]

Howdy

I noticed your post yesterday about shooting with a pair of cross draw holsters.

I strongly recommend you do not go that route.

I shoot with one cross draw holster and one straight draw. SASS rules dictate that one must NEVER break the 170 rule when drawing or holstering a pistol. This means that for a cross draw shooter, one may have to swivel the hips so that when the gun is drawn, the muzzle will be facing down range. The same must be done when the gun is returned to leather. There is a thing called 'the crossdraw dance', where one takes a step to swivel the hips so that the cross draw holster is facing down range. While it is not required to take a step, none the less the the muzzle MUST NOT break the 170 at any time while drawing or returning to leather. The same must be done at the loading and unloading tables.

However, with two cross draw holsters it becomes more difficult. If one draws the pistols with either hand, each time the body must be swiveled so that that pistol does not break the 170.

There is another solution, but it is very tricky. It is called the Cavalry Twist and is done with a butt forward pistol while drawing with the hand on the same side as the pistol. While facing straight on to the firing line, before drawing the pistol, the shooter turns his wrist so that he grasps the pistol grip with his palm facing out. He then has two choices. He can untwist his wrist while pulling the gun straight up out of the leather, so that when it clears leather the gun is facing forward normally. Or he can draw the pistol with the palm still out and rotate the wrist back when the gun is safely downrange. Returning to leather requires reversing the procedure. This is  a very tricky maneuver and must be practiced a great deal in front of a mirror to get it right. Even if done correctly, there are some ROs who do not understand that it is a legal draw and may call you on it. Get it wrong and you will get a stage DQ. Two stage DQs and you are sent packing. If you sweep anybody while the pistol is loaded you are immediately sent packing.

I know one pard who always wears his pistols butt forward and regularly does the Cavalry Twist. He had to practice it a long time to get it right. When he goes to a club where he is not known, he demonstrates his draw before hand for the RO, so the RO understands what he is doing.

The Cavalry twist is not a good idea for the beginner, and neither are two butt forward holsters. I strongly recommend against it. These are the reasons why you seldom see anybody wearing both pistols butt forward.

[Camille Eonich]

Excellent post Driftwood.

[Curley Cole]

Excellent points DJ. As for me shooting with the double cross rig, it is only when I shoot the scout look, and I am at a point where my shooting is not for speed, so I can afford to take the time to exercise the caution needed to ensure safety.

good shootin and ya might look at gettin another holster in strong side to have incase your plans don't work out.
curley