.45-70 1873 Sharps

Started by Cyrille, November 13, 2006, 09:15:31 AM

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Cyrille

We will be getting our 1873 model Sharps soon. Right now I am looking into brass and BP loads for the rifle.
Outside of reloading for my .30-.30 Marlin and my .45 LC OM Vaqueros I have no experance in reloading.

What I'm trying to find out is What size/type of primer is used in reloading the .45-70 cartridge?
CYRILLE...  R.A.T. #242
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Camille Eonich

Have you invested in a good reloading manual yet?  If so then follow the recommendations for the powder that you have chosen to use.


45-70 uses a large rifle primer.
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Cyrille

Yep and thanks for the primer info.
CYRILLE...  R.A.T. #242
"Never apologize Mr.; it's a sign of weakness."
Capt. Nathan Brittles {John Wayne} in "She Wore a Yellow Ribbon."

"A gun is  just a tool. No better and no worse than any other tool----- Think of it always in that way. A gun is as good--- and as bad--- as the man who carries it. Remember that."
                                                   Shane

WyrTwister

Quote from: Cyrille on November 13, 2006, 09:15:31 AM
We will be getting our 1873 model Sharps soon. Right now I am looking into brass and BP loads for the rifle.
Outside of reloading for my .30-.30 Marlin and my .45 LC OM Vaqueros I have no experance in reloading.

What I'm trying to find out is What size/type of primer is used in reloading the .45-70 cartridge?


     I load all 3 of those calibers , but with smokeless .

     I read that with BP , you load almost a case full of BP , leaving just enough space that when you seat and crimp the bullet , you end up with a compressed load .  I think that is the short version .

God bless
Wyr

Sir Charles deMouton-Black

Cyrille;  drop down to BROW..At one time the Federal 215 was the thing, then the WW LRM.  Now I hear its a different thing.

As I said, go to B.R.O.W. and tap into their expertise.

Oh!  One thing.  That is change one thing at a time to find the formula that works for you, and your rifle.
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X9ballX

the sharps seems to be a popular rifle. not as much as the lever action winchester but still. i'm just kinda amazed that there are so few reloading supplies for that kind of ammo.

the ammo is expensive from what i found on google shopping.

Sir Charles deMouton-Black

X9...;   Not so,really!

If you are looking for loaded ammo, you might find your choices a bit limited.  If you are, then search for "Cowboy loads" for the Sharps, and similar 19th Century styles.

Most of us reload, and there are plenty of supplies.  Generally they are regular stock items available at the normal basic prices for most reloading supplies.

Like I told Cyrille;  Look down below to the BROW board, and to THE DARKSIDERS DEN.
NCOWS #1154, SCORRS, STORM, BROW, 1860 Henry, Dirty Rat 502, CHINOOK COUNTRY
THE SUBLYME & HOLY ORDER OF THE SOOT (SHOTS)
Those who are no longer ignorant of History may relive it,
without the Blood, Sweat, and Tears.
With apologies to George Santayana & W. S. Churchill

"As Mark Twain once put it, "History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme."

Ranch 13

The best smokeless powder for duplicating black powder ballistics is 5744.
The best powder in the 45-70 is generally one version or another of 2f black powder.
Large rifle primers work well, altho some excellent accuracy with blackpowder loads can be had with large pistol primers.
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Cyrille

I use 2 F and lg. rifle primers in either a Remington/Peters brass case or Starline Nickle I find very litte diffrence between the two.
CYRILLE...  R.A.T. #242
"Never apologize Mr.; it's a sign of weakness."
Capt. Nathan Brittles {John Wayne} in "She Wore a Yellow Ribbon."

"A gun is  just a tool. No better and no worse than any other tool----- Think of it always in that way. A gun is as good--- and as bad--- as the man who carries it. Remember that."
                                                   Shane

Ranch 13

I get real good accuracy from both regular winchester and remington nickle cases with grease groove bullets.
Have dove off into the paper patch world and there remington brass cases and cci large pistol primers are working extremely well.
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