Brass "U.S." device

Forty Rod · October 05, 2009, 04:45:50 PM

I'm thinking I've seen a brass "U.S." device like Army officers wear on their blouse lapels except maybe 2 1/2" high. Though this might be something used on some sort of military horse gear (like a breast strap?), but I can't find any source that addresses it.

Any help?

Thanks.

Major 2 · October 05, 2009, 06:20:36 PM

sounds like 1904 headstall rosettes

Forty Rod · October 05, 2009, 07:10:45 PM

Letters and periods are free-standing, not on a plate or backing of any sort. I can't find a picture of the rosettes you referred to, but most I've seen are stamped from a sheet of brass with a disc background...all from a single brass sheet.

St. George · October 06, 2009, 12:49:35 AM

Not horse gear, unless it's chevrac ornament - not uniform insignia, either.

What's the backing like - is there a pin or small loops?

If there are loops - then it's a chevrac ornament .

Vaya,

Scouts Out!

Major 2 · October 06, 2009, 04:08:57 AM

Quote from: Forty Rod on October 05, 2009, 07:10:45 PM
Letters and periods are free-standing, not on a plate or backing of any sort. I can't find a picture of the rosettes you referred to, but most I've seen are stamped from a sheet of brass with a disc background...all from a single brass sheet.

Letters and periods are free-standing, not on a plate or backing of any sort. ah ! mis-read your Orginial post
took 2 1/2 high as Dia.

I have some of the Rosettes I refur to... I try to do a photo tonight
Stamped Brass lead backed w/ standing loop for the head band.
I have earlier ones as well including a pair of Heart Rosettes from the Dragoon era.

litl rooster · October 06, 2009, 07:25:45 AM

Quote from: Major 2 on October 05, 2009, 06:20:36 PM
sounds like 1904 headstall rosettes

2 1/2" would be a Large rosette

try martingale

Major 2 · October 06, 2009, 02:12:33 PM

except I took them off headstall ( he said Maybe 2 1/2 ") mine measure 2 1/8"
they were driver headstalls with blinders and there were smaller 1" hollow back ones on the blinders
Circa M1904 Mule team

and the orginial Heart Rossetts are also 2 1/8"

Forty Rod · October 06, 2009, 07:20:15 PM

It's been years since I saw then and if I remember (and any more I generally don't) the back had two wire loops soldered on but were not lear filled.

I'd like to see whatever some of you good ol' boys have if you can do it.

litl rooster · October 06, 2009, 11:32:57 PM

With the loops you described they sound like rosettes...I hadn't owned a Cav headstall in many years now just couldn't picture the rosettes that big, Ones for a Drafthorse may be bigger that what I remember