Cylinder teeth marks on recoil sheld Remington revolver

[Mike k]

I have a peitta Remington 58 new army 44 cal. blued steel frame rev. from Cabela's. I have a R& D converion cylinder 45 colt in it. I have about 150 rounds though it so far. With that cylinder in it I have ratched marks made in the recoil shield. And they are only on the top half of the shield. It almost looks like the frame is not all about square. I do have some end play in the cylinderabout 9-10 thou. . I have been using cowboy loads in it I'm getting about 750fps. The percusion cylinder that came with the gun had some end play in it too. That cyl. has a more rounded ratched area at the back of the cyl. That cyl. left no marks.  I measured the per cyl and the R&D cyl. the R&D cyl is about 2 thou. shorter. I was just wondering how your Remingtons 58's are doing. Maybe the tooth marks won't get any worst, like I said they are at the top of the recoil shield at the back of the frame . Where the cyl hits on recoil. I know some of these revolvers aren't the most precsion made firearms. The gun shoots fine cycles fine and is very good at hitting the bull's eye. I was just worrying about the marks. Any info would be great thanks, Mike k     

[Mike k]

I was wondering if anyone had any kind of cylinder marks on there pietta Rem.58 steel frames as I tried to tell in upper post. They are deep enough to catch your finger nail on them. I wish I could get a picture to show but have no good camera. I know the R&D cylinders are made out of some pretty hard steel.  Thanks again for any info. Mike k 

[Matt Bastardson]

The Pietta's seem to be made of a softer metal than the other makers.  The one I have has some batter marks on the hammer from striking the hardened Kirst cylinder.  I haven't noticed any batter marks on the frame from the cylinder, though, although it wouldn't surprise me if there were.  Apparently you're supposed to either shoot them or collect them (Pietta's), and not both

[Mike k]

Thanks JC for your reply. My hammer has gotten marked up some from both cylinders too. I guess they are made of softer metal. I noticed the firing pin plate on the R&D cyl. the machining is very sharp at the ratch area. I got some steel wool to try to take the edge off some.  Thanks, Mike k

[Flint]

If you hold the revolver up and look through the cylinder window, you will see that the ratchet face of the cyllinder only closes the gap at the top.  This seems to be typical of Piettas, at least.  The breech face is not perpendicular to the bore and cylinder.  If you paint the breech with a magic marker and replace the cylinder, and press it rearward and rotate it, when you remove the cylinder you will see where it rubs the breech face.  It's usually the upper right, as you look at it.  When I had to fit a bunch of cylinders to two guns, I found I had to carefully file the breech face where the rub marks appeared, which leveled the breech and created the endshake the cylinders needed to stop binding.  When the majority of the spare cylinders fit properly, the ones that were still too long had to be faced a few thousanths.

All that was a longwinded way of saying that you will find the breech face is not square to the rest of the gun, and it is apparently not an unusual condition.  These are cast frames, cleaned up for fit and finish, the steel comes out of the mold warped, I would expect.

[Mike k]

Thanks Flint , on your reply. That's just what my cylinder window is like on my revolver. I just for fun loaded up some 45 colts with 777 and a 250 grain lead bullet. With the end play i had in the cyl. I only got 1 1/2 cyl fulls of 45 colt before the cyl. binded up. I was thinking If it had less end shake it most likely I wouldn't even make a cyl. full. With the cowboy smokeless loads It doesn' t bind up at all. The 777 loads kick alot more than the smokeless.They seem to be harder on the gun. Mike k

[Mike k]

Anybody else look at their Pietta 58 remey's with a R&D cyl. for ratch teeth marks in recoil shield of frame. Thanks,Mikek

[Skinny Preacher 66418]

no metal removal, but i do see blue wear, front of cylinder also gets a mark from the frame near cylinder pin.

[Mike k]

The marks I'm getting Is some blue wear, and the cyl has pressed it's inprint some in the frame . Only at the top half, you can catch your finger nail on them. Thanks for your reply.Mike K