carbine or trapper models ?

Started by Major 2, June 17, 2006, 09:03:10 AM

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Major 2

Anyone have the once offered carbine or the trapper model  ?
The carbine was 2" shorter than the rifle, and the trapper model has about an 18" barrel.
The Carbine held 12 44-40's, I'm not sure what the Mag. capacity of the Trapper is.
I'm thinking it would be one sweet balanced little gun and a fun main match, if it is 10 rounds...
when planets align...do the deal !

Cannon Fodder

It appears Uberti  has made trapper model Henrys in the past with  161/2 and 181/2 inch  barrels. Their website lists a trapper with 181/2 inch barrel  but I dont know of any distributor selling it. I dont know what  capacity of rounds these trappers were, but I concur it would be a sweet carbine.

Cannon Fodder

Capt. Augustus

I had my own carbine made.  My local gunsmith shortened the barrel to 20".  It holds 10 .45's or 11 Schofields.  It really handles better than the full length one.  I did see a short trapper once, but it didn't hols 10 rounds.

Chance

The current Uberti catalogue lists an 18½" Henry in .44/40 or .45LC with a magazine capacity of 8 rounds.

Cannon Fodder

Message for  Capt Augustus and others with henry carbines or trappers.

Neat idea about just shortening the barrel.  What kind  of modifications to the follower and  modification  for handling  the 45 sch?

Also  thoughts on  ordering  181/2 barrel and follower  from uberti and just swapping out  for 24(1/2?)  barrel?

Cannon Fodder

Capt. Augustus

My Henry luckily fed the Schofields without any problems.  However, the blowback is worst if you use them.  The follower on my rifle is unchanged.  The gunsmith did a beautiful job of turning down the barrel's end and reassembling.  I have shot this carbine out to 100 ands and it hit the target, which was a metal hanger.  As far as cost, the gunsmith charged me $200 and I think the barrel alone is about that, and you still have to install it.  I don't know how they would get 10 rounds into the shortest barrel assembly, they definitely take up some room.  I based my 20" barrel on the pictures of the carbines that are available.  Such as Yellowstone Kelly's.  On the site they aslo have a letter from him saying that the trader who sold him his had several carbines.

Coffinmaker

I happen to have or have had all of the above.   The original "trapper" offering was from Navy arms, and it was a 16 1/2 inch rifle, 44-40 only.  I absolutely had to have one, except I wanted .45 Colt.  I bugged Maria Uberti at Uberti USA for three years.  She finely called me one day couple of years ago and asked if I was still interested in a .45 Colt Trapper.  The boys in Bresica made two Trappers, .45 Colt and I have  one of them.  A reallly fun rifle.  8 round capacity, so I originally set the rifle up for Schofield ammunition.  9 Rounds.  I'm now shooting a new "Schort Schofield" round it in, capicity 10 rounds. 
Half the matches I take it to, it gathers a croud!!!!
The next barrel length offered was 18 1/2 inches.  I had one, let it go.  I don't like to load 44-40 and a friend just "had" to have it.  So I'm down to three Henry rifles at present.  the latest being a new "Transitional" from Taylors.  A reallly fun gun!!

Coffinmaker

stepnmud

Coffinmaker,
I currently use a 44WCF brass frame Henry with a 24" barrel in CAS matches and like it a lot and find it very accurate at 100 yrd. targets. Have lately been thinking on buying a shorter barreled Henry and found one in the 18" barrel with 45 Colt cal. and can use my Schofield 45 rounds. You mentioned that the 18" barrels can accomodate 10 rounds in 45 Scholfield and that's what I'm interested in. I'll maybe make up some dummy rounds without primers or powder and see if the gun store will let me verify that ten rounds will fit. Also I'm thinking that the true barrel lenght is 18.5" as opposed to 18" and hope thats the case. Seems like I saw Trapper Model with 16.5" barrel last year and remember who had it, but don't remember the caliber.

Coffinmaker

stepnmud,

My 16 1/2 inch trapper will comfortably hold 9 Schofiled.  The 18 1/2 in gun should hold 10 Schofield with no problem.  You have 2 inches of added barrel and onlly adding a little over an inch of cartridge.  Should be absolutely no problem.  I'd grab that 18 1/2 inch gun as soon as you verify 10 rounds.  There wern't that many imported.  Nicely ballanced gun too.

Coffinmaker

shovelhead

My Henry has the 18-1/2 barrel and I can only get 9 rounds of 44-40 in the tube plus one round in the chamber for 10 total

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