How big a load?

Started by Knarley Bob, April 08, 2009, 05:30:37 PM

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Knarley Bob

What would be a good load for SASS shooting as far as a powder charge. Yup I'm talkin' con-convertied, smoke powder.
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Knarley
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Pettifogger

Caliber, gun type (revolver, rifle) etc.  And explain what this is supposed to mean?  "Yup I'm talkin' con-convertied, smoke powder."

Knarley Bob

Sorry 'bout that.....Cal. .44, non converted=not catrage, Smoke powder.... usually FFF Goex black, or American Pioneer.
Pietta 1851&1860 Colts... and a '47 Walker by Uberti. Have been looking in an old "Lyman" black powder handbook from the late '70s but those loads seem a bit stiff.... 19 to 37 gr.with a 138rg round ball, would be good for combat, but on the range?
Knarley
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Pettifogger

On a .44 with a rebated cylinder, like on the 1860 Army I don't think 37 grains would fit.  For a good comfortable CAS load use around 25 grains by VOLUME equivalent of real BP or APP.  For 777 go with 20 grains VOLUME equivalent.  With only 19 grains in a .44, the rammer might not seat the ball on the powder, that is an awful light load for a round ball.

Sir Charles deMouton-Black

I agree with 25 grains of 3F Goex, but it could go up to about 28 -29 grains, by powder measure.  They are still easy to shoot at that level.

FWIW; I have a Pietta Remington that threw flyers all over the place until the load approached 30 grains.  .44 Remmies can take a bit more than Colt .44s.
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Quote from: Pettifogger on April 08, 2009, 08:21:19 PM
On a .44 with a rebated cylinder, like on the 1860 Army I don't think 37 grains would fit.  For a good comfortable CAS load use around 25 grains by VOLUME equivalent of real BP or APP.  For 777 go with 20 grains VOLUME equivalent.  With only 19 grains in a .44, the rammer might not seat the ball on the powder, that is an awful light load for a round ball.

+1  My normal .44 cal load in 1851s & 1860s is 24 gr fffg, wad, round ball. 
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Knarley Bob

25 FFFg , I can do that ;D
Thanks guys,
Knarley
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Fingers McGee

Quote from: Fingers McGee on April 08, 2009, 11:01:36 PM
+1  My normal .44 cal load in 1851s & 1860s is 24 gr fffg (cause that's what size the spout is), wad, round ball. 
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Member - Southern Missouri Rangers;
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