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Started by HAWKEYE, January 25, 2009, 05:53:41 PM

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Hoof Hearted

Quote from: Hoof Hearted on February 03, 2009, 10:02:59 PM
I too have had no problems with the Uberti, Colt, ASM hand interchange ;)
The new Uberti's did change the cam location on the hammer, so maybe that's an issue ???

I'm glad that my advise to look to the trigger was correct. Did you also notice that the trigger sits back father now in the trigger guard, like it should?

I also have left that "piece" out with no ill effect.................seems odd to have left over parts ;D

HH


OK..I'm not crazy, but now I'm quoting myself ::)

I repaired two ASM SAA's for a SASS shooter today (both had worn out, cam side, bolt legs). Neither had the "filler thinga-magigee" piece that basically acts as a "shoulder" for the bolt as Ottawa Creek Bill described earlier in this thread. One of the two pistols exhibited far too much side to side cylinder play when locked up and the "thinga-magigee" would have really helped. Of course some one had home smithed on the pistol a bunch and figured it was unnecessary so it was gone.

One of these ASM's had a busted half cock notch on the hammer which I TIG'd up and recut and Kasenited which was very probably a side effect of the excessive wear from "racing" these pistols. Both had wire bolt/trigger springs and one of them had been "over-rotating" on the side of dangerous!
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Then I guess I'll go back in and replace the thingaamageege...... ;)
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Quote from: Fox Creek Kid on February 03, 2009, 11:50:33 PM
Years ago Uberti used a funky "D" shaped cam I believe as there was a fella on another website (since gone) who chewed Mike Harvey at Cimarron up one side & down another constanly to have Uberti change the design as these cams would literally eat themselves. Maybe Abilene remembers this debacle.

I was not around for that "debacle" but have heard about it. ( It was model P hammers, had nothing to do with the conversions).  I won't say the name of the fella nor will I say what Mr. Harvey's opinion of him is.  I'm not positive about this, but here's my understanding.  The hammers that had the D shaped cam were the "hammer block safety" type hammers, with the block below the firing pin and the linkage pin down to the safety notch.  Back then, those hammers used a different bolt and trigger and hand than the current Model P hammers that are just like Colts without the hammer block.  If you tried to mix the parts, things didn't work right.  It was a non-issue if you used the correct parts. 

Ubertis Cattleman still has the hammer block safety on many of the non-Cimarron models.  But VTI only lists a single trigger, bolt, etc. for these guns so perhaps their current hammer-block-safety hammer has been changed to use the same action parts as the Model P.

Anyways, I think that's the way I heard it, can't swear to the details.
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