Uberti conversion versatility

[Jamie]

I was just wondering ... does anybody out there know if the Uberti Remington 58 revolver uses the same cylinder as the Uberti percussion carbine as sold by Cabela's?  And therefore, what about a conversion for the 45 Colt?  I've got an ASM brass framed 58 which has a cylinder which is substantially larger than the Uberti in outside dimensions (And yes, I realize the difference in manufacturers, but the difference is, as I said really substantial).  In addition I have two Pocket Police's, BOTH made by ASM (one for Traditions, and one for CVA) one in brass frame, one in steel, and there is no comparison between the two cylinders.  Again the brass framed gun has, if I remember correctly, the larger cylinder externally - primarily longer.  Again, the difference is noticable.
I've been contemplating picking up a 58 by Uberti, and then possibly a conversion unit.  It might be impossible to actually make all three cylinders work in both guns, but if the two cylinders were at least supposed to be the same, it would help!  Just thinking.
Jamie

PS - Hoof Hearted - sorry the carbine deal didn't work out, I hope you got my final e-mail of apology, I had some trouble getting it through.

[Flint]

The Uberti made carbine uses the same cylinder as the Uberti made 58 (cast frame).  As the newer forged frame is larger, its cylinder might not fit.

Ihave shot my carbine with the conversion cylinder installed.

[Hoof Hearted]

Jamie

No harm no foul

If you are trying a Uberti "1858" NMA and a Uberti revolving Carbine there should be no difference (as Flint already pointed out). The Pietta conversion cylinder is the longest available from either Kirst or R&D. If your Uberti Carbine cylinder is too short for the pistol then buy a Pietta and fit it. You can do the vice versa also, but you will have to open the window on the Uberti for interchangeability.

Good luck!

HH

[Raider2000]

Since my main shootin pistol is my Pietta I've been reluctant "not to include the $$$ amount" to get one of the Uberti Revolving Carbines because I know from experience that my Pietta Cylinder is larger than the Uberti & swapping would be a pain in that respect.

But I know that Uberti uses the same cylinders for both their NMA & RC's "as long as it isn't a forged frame from what I understand."

[Flint]

A point of information.  R&D uses the same length cylinder for both Pietta and Uberti, but have a thicker backplate for the Pietta.

Kirst uses the same backplate for both, with a longer cylinder for the Pietta.

If you have an R&D cylinder for the Pietta it would fit the Uberti carbine if used with an Uberti backplate.

[Hoof Hearted]

A point of information.  R&D uses the same length cylinder for both Pietta and Uberti, but have a thicker backplate for the Pietta.

Kirst uses the same backplate for both, with a longer cylinder for the Pietta.

If you have an R&D cylinder for the Pietta it would fit the Uberti carbine if used with an Uberti backplate.

Filnt
You the man!

That is correct and well spoken

HH

[Raider2000]

Here's a question regarding this.

If for instance I have my Pietta NMA w/ several spare percussion cylinders & I did buy a Uberti Revolving Carbine would it be just adjusting the front of the frame window & barrel  & ofcorse some timing adjustments to accomodate a Pietta cylinder?

Has any one done this?

[Jamie]

Wow!  Thanks for the insights!  The next question is how I tell a forged vs. cast frame Uberti?  Is it a time of manufacture issue?  Also, once I open up the window, would I still be able to use the original percussion cylinder?  I've got alot to learn for sure.  Thanks everybody.
Jamie

[Hoof Hearted]

Here's a question regarding this.

If for instance I have my Pietta NMA w/ several spare percussion cylinders & I did buy a Uberti Revolving Carbine would it be just adjusting the front of the frame window & barrel  & ofcorse some timing adjustments to accomodate a Pietta cylinder?

Has any one done this?

Raider

I routinely do this and the way I do it is to face the back side (breech end) of the barrel with a 90 degree cutter that comes in a Brownells complete forceing cone kit, close to the (read this as real tight) correct size. Then I carefully (skillfully) file the window (at the breech end). I then finish opening the barrel end to the desired gap. Followed by recutting the forceing cone. If this sounds like too much, give me a shout when you get ready.

HH

[Raider2000]

Raider

I routinely do this and the way I do it is to face the back side (breech end) of the barrel with a 90 degree cutter that comes in a Brownells complete forceing cone kit, close to the (read this as real tight) correct size. Then I carefully (skillfully) file the window (at the breech end). I then finish opening the barrel end to the desired gap. Followed by recutting the forceing cone. If this sounds like too much, give me a shout when you get ready.

HH

So it is exactly what I thought then.
Are you doing anything to the recoil shield end of the window or just the breech of the barrel & the contact point where the cylinder pin is located.

[Daniel Nighteyes]

A point of information.  R&D uses the same length cylinder for both Pietta and Uberti, but have a thicker backplate for the Pietta.

Kirst uses the same backplate for both, with a longer cylinder for the Pietta.

If you have an R&D cylinder for the Pietta it would fit the Uberti carbine if used with an Uberti backplate.

Just as long as you fit the backplate to the cylinder. I learned the hard way that they are not interchangeable...

[Hoof Hearted]

So it is exactly what I thought then.
Are you doing anything to the recoil shield end of the window or just the breech of the barrel & the contact point where the cylinder pin is located.

You may or maynot have to at the lower rear. This is the area that a Kirst has a "foot" that can be filed for proper fit (but I'd make both guns accept the cylinder instead of modifying the foot). You will know you have interference because the cylinder pin will not slide into the frame properly.

HH