Good news and bad new from BACO

Started by ndnchf, January 12, 2009, 04:42:38 PM

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ndnchf

Chris from Buffalo Arms called today to tell me that the good news that .50-95 Uberti loading dies are finally in.  He also said they had one box of their new 300gr, .510" bullets. I said "send 'em along" :)

The bad news is they still have no brass.  They make it from Starline .50-90 which is backordered another month or two  :'(

I then asked if they knew that Jamison is gearing up to make .50-95 brass.  It was a surprise to them.  Chris will pass it to Dave Gullo for action.

So here I sit, 2 months later still waiting for all the goodies I need to load some BP ammo and make some smoke :'(
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Wes Tancred

What about Ten-X?

http://www.tenxammo.com/index.html

I purchased a box of their .50-95 cartridges loaded with Triple-7 black powder substitute. They have 350-grain RNFP bullets, and work perfectly in my rifle.

What is perplexing about these cartridges is that they are head stamped "TEN-X 50-95". They are sufficiently different in dimension and geometry than the re-formed Starline .50-90 Sharps cases from Buffalo Arms that they can not be Starline cases custom stamped for Ten-X. In addition, they lack evidence of notable case re-forming. Does any-one here know the source of the Ten-X brass?

I would never shoot smokeless powder in an 1876, but the Triple-7 seems an effective and acceptable substitute for black powder. The shooting experience is extremely similar, in terms of the recoil impulse curve and the sound; and Triple-7 appears to produce more smoke. Cleaning of the rifle is just as easy as in the case of black powder.

ndnchf

Wes,

I've thought about Ten-X, but I'm just not much into BP subs.  For $5.00 a round I would expect they could use they real thing.  BACO does in their loaded ammo, unfortunately they are out of stock.  I'm keeping that option open as a last resort.  Who makes the brass?  Good question ???
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ndnchf

Wes - found the answer to your question - Jamison makes the Ten-X brass:

http://www.tenxammo.com/files/News_Release_-_Brass.pdf

That also explains why Jamison is getting ready to start selling it themselves :o  They must be making up their own headstamp.
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Hoof Hearted

Quote from: ndnchf on January 13, 2009, 04:29:32 PM
Wes - found the answer to your question - Jamison makes the Ten-X brass:

http://www.tenxammo.com/files/News_Release_-_Brass.pdf

That also explains why Jamison is getting ready to start selling it themselves :o  They must be making up their own headstamp.

Actually, Ten X buys brass from where ever they can to load their product. In the past they have used both Bertram and Jamison stamped brass for the 45-75 loads. Obviously, recently, only Bertram. Jamison was filling military contracts and hopefully they'll get back in production soon. I hear they are getting ready to gear up again. I, for one, hope they leave the dimensions in the new run the same as the old run.

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Wes Tancred

Ndndchf,

Yes, Ten-X .50-95 is $5.00 per round, though one will still have the brass, after shooting up that Triple-7 powder. Whether of Jamison or Bertram manufacture, the cases seem of high quality; and they have the added benefit of the proper head stamp.

I was in a similar predicament in the Summer. I had received my rifle, but Buffalo Arms had no .50-95 cartridges in stock. I was keen to test the rifle, so purchased a box of Ten-X ammunition, and considerably later received two boxes of BACO cartridges.

There must be fairly high demand, for BACO to sell out of .50-95 cartridges so often.

Hobie

Ten-X ammo in the Jamison brass was less than half the price it is now with the Bertram brass.  I suggest that after the first shot with a Bertram case you anneal it.  Cuts down on splitting...
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Hobie

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Buffboy

Quote from: Hobie on January 14, 2009, 07:16:34 AM
Ten-X ammo in the Jamison brass was less than half the price it is now with the Bertram brass.  I suggest that after the first shot with a Bertram case you anneal it.  Cuts down on splitting...

Hobie, I've found that to be a good rule with regard to the starline brass I make my 40-60 cases from as well. You need to use caution though with the next sizing as that brass gets really soft after that. Odd that it's so hard it cracks then after annealing, softer than other brass.

Rowdy Fulcher

Howdy Pards
Has anyone called Richard at Ten X to see if he would sell you brass . The worst thing that could happen would be No and that's where your at now so call Richard and ask him .

the missing link

Hi !! In my Chapy 50-95 i am using shortened 50 Alaskan brass from Buff-arms, they are doing just fine. And are much cheaper than the Bertram stuf. Then i load the shells with 44 grains 777 (by weight), a cardboard wad on the powder, and then the Lyman 340 grain bullet, sized .513 and lubed with SPG-lube. This combination are starting out of my 22" tube at 1312 fps. And are constantly making 2" grups at 100 meter.


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ndnchf

Rowdy - good idea.  I just sent Richard an e-mail about it.

Missiing Link - I'been thinking abiut trying the .50 Alaskan.  Glad to hear it works for you.

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