Ladder Frame Sight on a Lever Action?

[Ranch 13]

 the thing that's the real head scratcher for me, is the 45-70, and 40-65 take 60-70 points to get the same target.

[Delmonico]

the thing that's the real head scratcher for me, is the 45-70, and 40-65 take 60-70 points to get the same target.

I don't have a table handy, but doesn't the 22LR shoot flatter out to about 300 yards than the other rounds? 

[Ranch 13]

 Well apparently going by the sight setting's it shoots twice as flat.

[Delmonico]

Well apparently going by the sight setting's it shoots twice as flat.

Found a table on-line, and with the 405 it is the other way around.  Who knows, as long as you can hit the target no big deal.   Just set the sightw where they need to be.  Wait, these low powered rounds ain't good beyond a 100 yards, forgot that.

[Forty Rod]

The match sounds like a good idea, but you'd need a dead horse for the shooters to lie behind... 

There have been enough of them beaten around here so we'd never run out.      

[Shotgun Franklin]

There a big difference between putting a hicky on a target at long range and actually using that same gun/caliber for hunting or self defense.

[Ranch 13]

There a big difference between putting a hicky on a target at long range and actually using that same gun/caliber for hunting or self defense.

Oh I don't know about that. When I get serious about prairiedog control, I can kill more in an hour with my 22 out to 200 yds, than I can with a 223. Less noise they don't go down the hole. Even got 2 with one shot at 150 yds, passthru got the one behind it. 

[concho]

What is a Saa ?  That looks like  Haflinger .

[WaddWatsonEllis]

Concho,

I tried to go back to the original Saa reference, and couldn't find it. But I am guessing that they meant Colt Single Actrion Army ... generally to as a SAA for convenience ...

Of course, if I am wrong, someone please correct me. As a Schofield owner and shooter, my knowledge of Colt SAAs is extremely limited ....

http://guns.wikia.com/wiki/Colt_Peacemaker

[Delmonico]

Oh I don't know about that. When I get serious about prairiedog control, I can kill more in an hour with my 22 out to 200 yds, than I can with a 223. Less noise they don't go down the hole. Even got 2 with one shot at 150 yds, passthru got the one behind it. 

Back in 2005 a friend of mine borrowed my Sharps and tried it some at Sod Poodles.  Sent him along a trajectory table. (He's a former Marine Sniper)  Tried a shot at the middle one of the three standing by a hole, at about 450, shot a hair low but got all three with the gravel.

He shot more of them with my 22 Hornet though, bought it in 91, has one of those NRA Springfild barrels chambered to Hornet.  Some guy up to Central City Newbrassky built it in 1947, I added the El Paso made K-12, it came with an old 4X Scopechief.



10.5 gr AA1680 and a Hornaday 0.223 Hornet bullt don't make a lot of noise either.

[Ranch 13]

 That's a nice looking lowall.

[Delmonico]

That's a nice looking lowall.

You think it was worth the $235 I paid for it?   The barrel looked pitted, what ever it was in it shot out with some jacketed rounds, it's good enough to shoot cast bullets.

I had planned on rebarreling or re-boring to a 38-40, some how it never happened and most likely never will.  Won't make 1 moa, but pretty close.

[Ranch 13]

  Well you know I'ld sure hate to see you suffer with that thing anymore :PI'ld give ya 250$ just so's ya wouldn't have to keep it hid or wear a bag over your head when you take it out in public

[Delmonico]

Well you know I'ld sure hate to see you suffer with that thing anymore :PI'ld give ya 250$ just so's ya wouldn't have to keep it hid or wear a bag over your head when you take it out in public

Sorry, already turned down $750 cash from a friend who collects varmint rifles, classic ones.  Didn't have the cash to get the High-wall that was in the collection, he did.  22 Donaldsonwasp, 24 inch barrel, looked about the size of a model A rear axel.  Oh, the dies were included and it had a beutiful feathered black walnut stock with the high comb like they did in the late 40's on them.  Dies included, it went for $750 and I didn't have that much.

[Ranch 13]

 If you get a chance pick up a copy of Ned Roberts Schuetzen Rifle book. He really sings the high praises of the 85. Lots of good info on most of the old single shots in there.

[Delmonico]

If you get a chance pick up a copy of Ned Roberts Schuetzen Rifle book. He really sings the high praises of the 85. Lots of good info on most of the old single shots in there.

I had it once from the libray or a friend.  To be truthful, the 85 was probally the best of the single-shots.  Simple, easy to work on, rugged and accurate.  But did John Browning ever invent a bad gun?

[Ranch 13]

 Nope he never did come up with a bad one. I do think tho that he modified the Sharps 75 and come up with his highwall to start with.

If you go to Cornell Publishing dot come. Abby has reprints of many old catalogs and books. I got the Roberts book from her for 11 and change.
Also been pleasantly surprised at the number of good old books Google has sitting there just waiting to be read. Not as satisfieing as flippin pages but lots of good info anyways.

[Daniel Nighteyes]

the thing that's the real head scratcher for me, is the 45-70, and 40-65 take 60-70 points to get the same target.

Though rather OT, the trajectories of  the .223 (5.56 NATO) and the .308 (7.62 NATO) are virtually identical out to 500 yards.  Or, with the right projectiles and wind conditions (for the .223), out to around 800 yards.