british anti-foul method

[mike6975]

heres the link check it out for yourself,it's under the info bullet button.what's your opinion?

http://www.bwss.org.uk/


mike

[Alabama]

Looks like it is allot like Flints design to me but with brass . Or maybe it's there design Flint hyjacked  That design has been around allong time whomever genius "Smith" came up with it . Probably Webley back on the Britt revolver days for sure !
Either way it is said to work , don't have one myself made up like that , but I don't have that problem either . Tons of lube and good lube too .  But I don't shoot 100's of rounds at a time either , so it may very well be a good deal for people not willing to pull there cylinder once in awhile to wipe it off inside and out and of course wipe the pin too ?    More lube ...............
I am sure it gets into the gas check too eventually reguardless . I really aint into taking anymore meat off my Remington as it is , especially right under the forcing cone where it gets punished the most . It may be stronger than a Colt frame but it aint no Colt Annaconda either 
Just my opinion of course  Am sure someones differs , and that aint a bad thing . 
Cool pics , thanks for sharing .

Alabama

PS....After carfeull examintation to those pics again I can surely see that the blast fragments are eating away at the frame under the forcing cone too , not good !    You can guarantee yourself some slopp eventually for and aft for your cylinder with that particular system on a brass
frame revolver looks like to me . I am not sure Flints system is like that  , I got an e-maill into him so I can look at his system again ?
I can see where leaving it alone will never erode that area though    More lube !!!!!  I also noticed the writer-fabricator only wipes his pin down with oil ? There is the problem he is having , in my opinion to start with . More greasy lube , not oil . 

[Wolfgang]

I've heard of this modification before.   Don't feel the need for it.  With good lube I don't have trouble with binding.  Some grind slots in the cylinder pin.  One of my '58s has the slots ground.  Doesn't seem to me to make much difference. 

Good shootin', . . . . 

[Flint]

I didn't invent the idea of a gas ring, by any means, that was done over 100 years ago.  My gas ring for the Remington is patterned after the Ruger Old Army, as I found it would shoot all day (or a CAS match, at least) without fouling out.

I prefer steel to the brass bushing, personally, but since the modification in the photos was to a brass framed gun, it probably blends in better. 

I was concerned with the relatively thin barrel of the Remington at the forcing cone as well, (particularly as the Pietta seems to have very soft steel barrels) so that is my inspection point after shooting for reliability and design validity. I will use the system with an R&D conversion and the harder heavier bullet will prove the idea one way or the other.

[Alabama]

Flint ,

when your done building and trying her out with the R and D and those good strong loads , do tell us how she worked please . 
I would gander with the harder lead on the Cowboy Action loads ,  you'll get half the splatter ( probably very little ) and that should transgress to less problems ? Or no problems at all , I would think . Especailly with lubed bullets . ( I know your counting your money right now on bullet sales Dick Dastardly reading this !!  ) " More Big Lube Bullits as you say  "
I don't owne any of the fancy gated conversion R & D cylinders you guys got here , just the Civil War ones you have to take out to load each time from R & D , ( which is way fast on Remmingtons ) ( which I think is faster than gated if your good with your hands ) and that takes allot of the fouling off and breaks it down too each time you load of course just by moving the cylinder pin back and forth in the cylinder every six or five rounds . Matter of factly I have never experienced any binding with those cylinders ? I will be curious with the gated ones you may be using for your test gun if they will perform like that ? I hope they do for ya though . I am kinda surprised the Italians haven't made a model like the one your creating ?
Are they actually SASS-CASS legal anyway ? Rugers design is proven for sure and I sure haven't heard ANY complaints on the gun excpet it aint authentic ? Bad PUNN but my buddys says his is bullet proof  And very fouling resistant , so that sytem must work . I doubt there will
be any problems especially on a steel frame gun , even with a gated conversion  .

Alabama

[Arizona Trooper]

The 1860s Cooper double action knock-off of the Colt pocket model has this feature and it works great. I have shoot a Cooper all afternoon and it never has a problem hanging up or failing to index. In fact, the cylinder spins as freely after 20 or 30 shots as as it does when clean. Another nice feature of the Cooper compared to a Colt is the fence between the hammer and cones. The hammer nose is narrowed and passes through a slot in the fence. It's impossible for cap fragments to get back under the hammer, which is a constant problem with Colts. Overall, the Cooper DA is much superior to a Colt. Too bad they went bust at the end of the cap & ball era.

[Alabama]

That was , is , a good system indeed there ArizonaTrooper . Especially the cap fence , great design .
Ironically I have been reading up on that particular weapon recently just to understand how it works better , and just to read of course about our History. Odd you should post that today ? There is a beautiful example of one for sale right now at Dixie for $1,450.00 I think it is too .
Off topic kinda since were talking on a Remington forum , but Flints and the Coopers are pretty well the same, and he does the Colts too this way from what I have seen now too .
Lots of good info and reading on this post from mike6975 now .

Sincerely , Alabama

[Arizona Trooper]

I know it's a little off topic, but I couldn't resist. I really liked mine (unfortunately had to sell it when I was working my way through school, where else, the U of Az). The only problem I ever had with it was the seperate halfcock sear would gunk up once in a great while and I'd have to get in there and clean it. One of these days I'll have another, to go with my Remingtons. (There, I got back on topic.)

[Alabama]

I see you know the art of reading between the lines too Arizona Trooper 
Good Remington comeback 
Borderline hyjacking is common around here anyway , and Mike doesn't seam to mind since he aint chimmed in about it , being his threade and all .

Alabama

[mike6975]

thanks guys,would have replied sooner but was out coachin football.i love this forum and look forward to opening his one up everyday now multiple times.you guys are always on pointand very insightful and helpfull



Respectfully,


mike