Uh-oh, my Dixie .36 CB cylinder is too long:

[Yettoblaster]

Welp, inspired by my recent acquisition of a used '73 Winshester replica (older Navy Arms carbine, Uberti by another name)  a buddy was selling (still at the FFL's until the 19th), I started nosing around various sites of his interest and ran across the SCORRS board here at CasCity.

Tonight I got out my old Lyman .36 C&B and attempted to fit the new cylinder I got some years ago from Dixie GW.
Welp, that sucker is just too long to fit into the Lyman!

DRATS!

So in reading in the back pages here I realized there are two sizes of .36 Navy Rem replicas, of which the my Lyman is smaller (at least certainly smaller overall than my brass framed ol' 1858 .44 Rem replica (also Navy Arms) I've had for decades.

I had thought that adding a new cyllinder without the dedents all chewed up to where the foot doesn't start the rotation, but will finish it if started by hand would suffice (it's just not picking up the straight backside of the "scoops" in the cylinder's rearmost surface, as they are too worn).

My first thought was to mill some off the front of the cylinder until I can get it to clear (I'm a mechanic at a machine shop). But there are a couple of other visual differences as well.

OK, so no sweat, I'll just buy a new gun from Dixie and I'll have a spare cylinder already. I hope they still sell them.

Now the question:
Anybody got a source for the smaller cylinders?

I can probably restore a better lip to catch the foot on the back suface of the present Lyman's cylinder. Hopefully without throwing the timing out. I'd still like to find a replacement cylinder that would work though.

Any thoughts/input?

[Flint]

Remington Navies were indeed smaller than the Armies, and early Italian repros were as well.  Now all the Italian repros use the 44 frame, so the cylinder is larger in diameter than an original Remington Navy, or early repro 36.

[Yettoblaster]

Thanks Flint.

That's too bad.
I guess it's too much to hope that I can restore this Lyman to stellar condition, but I guess I'll take a shot at it.
There's some pretty fabulous welders where I work. I'll bet they could add some material which I could reshape with a Dremel.
It's a chance but I'm willing to take it.

As soon as I get back to "just broke" from recent purchases I'll have to order a "modern" .36 Rem replica to use my spare cylinder with.

[hellgate]

I put a Uberti 44 cal cylinder into an ASP 44 remmie and it worked without any modifications. Maybe a Uberti 35 cal would work. Is your remington 36 a Euroarms (Armi San Poalo) or ASM or Pietta? I suspect you have two different makes. A lot of the older Dixie and CVA guns were Armi San Marco gun that are no longer made.

[Yettoblaster]

...Is your remington 36 a Euroarms (Armi San Poalo) or ASM or Pietta? I suspect you have two different makes. A lot of the older Dixie and CVA guns were Armi San Marco gun that are no longer made.

Yes, my steel-frame .36 is in its original Lyman box (possibly San Marco?). Says only "1858 New Model Navy, " and, "Made in Italy," on the barrel, with some other mfg stamp marks (I don't have enough experience with these marks to recognize mfr's from them) on the frame.

The "Dixie Arms" replacement cylinder I got from THEIR catalog sales dept several years later IS different looking, as well as being in the bigger .44 frame size (in fact it fits fine in my brass frame .44, and almost times as well as its original .44 cylinder).

I may put the Dixie .36 replacement cylinder into the brass .44 frame and see if the Lyman's .36 barrel will also make the transfer. That would be a fine tribute to Eli Whitney's genius: if it all fits and works)!

Plus, I'd wind up with the only brass framed .36 caliber '58 Rem New Model Navy I'VE ever seen (big whoop)!

'Course, then I'd be out a .44,    and have unusable parts around (unless I buy more parts, guns, and other stuff). Say, THERE'S an idea!