Long term reliability

[Stophel]

Specifically, I'm asking about the Uberti "58" NMA.  Is there a "weak link" in this gun that may sometime need to be addressed? (well, other than the well known problem of the hand springs)?  Meaning, is there a certain part which has tendency to cause problems, meaning that it wears too fast, is too soft, etc?  If so, I'd like to address any of these problems before they pop up, and nip them in the bud, if possible.     For example, are there wear issues with the hand or the cylinder stop?  Could these or other problems be alleviated by proper hardening and tempering?  Have any of you come across these situations, or are these guns just fine as they are?

Are all of the current production Uberti "58's" Forged frames?  I believe that this is the case, but am not sure.  Does this mean that tougher/harder steel is used?

I THINK what I'm going to do is get myself a regular percussion Uberti rather than a cartridge gun. (I change my mind more often than a woman!)  Given what I want to use it for, I think this will be fine (not to mention MUCH cheaper!).  I do, however, want to get a SOLID gun.  One that will hold up for a very long time.  I'm not a competition shooter, so that's not an issue with me, but competition shooting is a good yardstick by which to judge long term durability.  Of course, the forged frame guns have not been out very long, so I don't know how much shooting any of you may have been doing with them so far.

Oh, and what is the best source for these guns?  Cimarron/Texas Jack's, Taylor's or some other?

[hellgate]

I have had Uberti, Euroarms, & Pietta Remington NMAs. The Piettas I no longer have (stainless models) as there were quality issues like the chambers not lining up with the barrel and just plain too beefy for my weenie hands. I've never had a hand spring break on a Remington (I have 6 of the 8 I've owned). The Piettas & Ubertis were brand new, the Euros were used. The hand spring is the most LIKELY thing to wear out but so far I haven't had anything wear out so far although one cylinder or one of the 4 Euros was galled due to the cylinder locking up from lead spitting/shaving that jammed the cylinder. I dropped in a Uberti cylinder and that Euro runs fine now. Pietta has since improved its quality control. The only part beside the hand spring that might need hardening would be the trigger. But honestly, I've had far more problems with the Colt's internals than Remmie's internals and more problems with the Remington chamber to barrel alignment. Get a Uberti and you'll be a happy camper.

[Hoof Hearted]

Here's the opposite opinion

I like the Pietta's.

I have a big hand (two of them actually) and it ain't from milking cows I am well over 6 foot and I weigh well over 200 pounds and they just feel right. I own close to a dozen of them. I also have a few Uberti's and they are fine also but do not look as traditional to me. They have dovetailed sights and rammer lugs (fine if you want to take them in and out) and the cylinders are longer (just about 12 thou) than an original. By the way I have a few originals too. The Euroarms make neat Beals look alikes but my hand is cramped by the small grip and area between the grip and trigger guard.

Buy a Pietta.
Buy it from Cabelas.
If you don't like anything about it (cylinder alignment has never been an issue for me amd I work on a lot of them) call them and tell them to issue a call tag and send you another. They'll stand behind it 100%

[Wolfgang]

Ditto for what "Hoof Hearted" said.   Buying from Cabelas is the best price on new ones, and is a safe purchas as they are easy about exchange in case you do happen to get a bad one "out of the box".  ( Rare these days. )   I have the "parts kit" from Cabelas with the hammer, trigger, springs, etc. and got a complete set of all screws from VTI gun parts.  I also have enough '58s so that a broken gun ( if ever ) doesn't stop me from continueing to shoot until I had the time to work on it.  I've always bought spare essential parts for every gun I've owned and been glad to have them even when they've never been needed.  Just nice to know that you have them. And even if ya need a professional to work on the gun, . . if you have the needed parts the fix can be done right then, rather than waiting for a $ 3 part that takes weeks to arrive as the postal service looses it along the way.  Just my $ .03 if of any worth, . .

[Skinny Preacher 66418]

Cabelas is the best place I can find them. I shoot dualist, so I'm not terribly hard on the guns. Only had bolt/trigger and hand springs break. Nothing else. And even those have not broken in the last year (after I lightly polished the innards with 200 grit sand paper). Built like a tank. I shoot mine with 200-250 gr pills in 45 scho and 45 lc cases (Kirst conversions). I also shoot hunting loads, 250 gr with compressed load of 777 FFF gunpowder (supposively 20% hotter than bp). Those loads are stout, but they can handle it with mild use). Mine are Pietta except an Uberti Carbine. The uberti has a better looking hammer "checker" and color case hardening.

[sundance44`s]

I like the Pietta Remingtons because of my large paws ....the out side fit and finish is looking much better these days on the Piettas ..bought another one on sale at Cabelas ...all I can say is it looks much better ...but is lacking on quaility control on the innards compaired to the Uberti`s ...of course for the dollar difference I didn`t mind looseing a little TV time stoneing the innards .
Its a good buy for large Paws .

[Major 2]

I guess I've mentioned I have one of the new Forge Framed conversions...
I've now put over 10 boxes of Black Hills 45 LC ( I say over ,because I shot the heck out of several boxes before I started counting) some were 45 Sch too.
This is of course a Uberti ... I've seen O problems.... onliest thing was lost screw holding the extractor ( and it fell out when Tuolumne Lawman sent it to me ) and Susanne Webb over at Uberti (Bresica) sent me 3 replacements free of charge  (because Taylor's nor VTI had the parts YET !)
I also refinished the grips (dumped the red varnish).

I'm a Colt Richards fan... but this gun is winning me over....

[Tommy tornado]

In the N-SSA the biggest complaint about Remingtons in terms of problems is the hand and hand-spring.  Those seem to be the two parts that wear out on Remingtons.  I know I have had that problem with my 1875 EMF "Outlaw".  I have owned it since 1999 and have had to replace three hand-springs and two hands since owning it.  Lately however I don't shoot it as much as I used to.

[Montana Slim]

Well, I've had my Pietta NM Army revolver about 28+ years (built from a Navy Arms Kit). I think the holes in the nipples have enlarged excessive from firing, but I haven't gotten around to replacing them. I also had to replace the loading lever pivot screw (wore it out, I reckon)....I shortened the barrel to make a belly gun a few years back. It has been shot a LOT and is still 100% serviceable.

Best,
Slim

[Flint]

I'm about to offer a service to install Ruger coil and plunger hand springs in the Remington 58's.