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Re: open top holsters
« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2007, 12:55:05 PM »
Here is my favoriate.  Plain Slim Jim undied.  Let it age and darken on its own.  The ones in my little picture under my name are fitted for '60 armies.
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Re: open top holsters
« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2007, 01:08:24 PM »
I might add that Tommy does a great job on his holsters too.
He made me a pair like the avatar in his posts and my Belgian 1860 Colt Armies love them, and so do I.

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Re: open top holsters
« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2007, 05:46:33 PM »
Deadeye Don, I took your advise and went to the sass wire and looked up Ed Douglas.....you were so right....made me angry.....don't know what his story is BUT he has a-lot of pards pissed-off....all the threads have been closed by the people that run the sass wire.....do too so many post..... so, not much I could do and it looks as if the only way you can reach "Big Ed" is to post a thread on the sass wire....Big Ed did do a post with some cock&bull story about two months ago....he is a ripoff artist and it looks as if his business IS for sale so(Big Ed says not so,I don't believe him)....all these people will most likely have to take him to court....lession learned here is either research every dealer before your purchase(I went by the feedback on his website....WRONG) or make it yourself. Too bad. Dusty.
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Re: open top holsters
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Re: open top holsters
« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2007, 06:34:51 PM »
I can't say what has happened to Big Ed - Ed Douglas @ San Pedro Leather.
I had him make a money belt about 6-7 years ago, and I got it in a timely fashion about two weeks as I recall . It was good value for the money.
I have seen the posts lately and would agree , caution is the by word... too bad.

But I will also say there are some, on the SASS wire that are quick to jump in on a controversy with little or no knowledge of the facts.
Some enjoy the attack like Hyaena's.  ::)
 

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Re: open top holsters
« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2007, 08:31:40 PM »
Not defending Big Ed but I was under the impression he was having a hard time finding workers and had some health problems.  Let me tell you making quality leather takes a lot of time. 
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Re: open top holsters
« Reply #25 on: September 03, 2007, 08:44:41 PM »
some health problems ...was my impression too.

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Re: open top holsters
« Reply #26 on: September 03, 2007, 11:48:57 PM »
GUY'S MOST OF THE TIME I WOULD AGREE YOU...NOT THIS TIME...TOO MANY PEOPLE WAITING FOR AS LONG AS TWO YEARS OR A YEAR WHICH MAKES MY 5 MONTHS SEEM LIKE A WALK IN THE PARK...THE FACT IS THIS...THE MONEY IS IN HIS BANK ACCOUNT...HE WON'T RETURN E-MAILS OR PHONE CALLS SO...HOW ARE WE SUPPOSE TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON WITH HIM...BAD ANYWAY YOU LOOK AT IT. MOST PEOPLE WILL NOT RECEIVE WHAT THEY ORDERED OR GET A REFUND BECAUSE THEY ARE NICE AND DID NOT WANT TO DO A CHARGE-BACK TO THE CREDIT CARD AND IT APPEARS HE IS NOT GOING TO SHIP THE PRODUCT IMHO... THIS IS MY TAKE ON THIS ....TOO BAD...GIVES THE HOBBY A BAD NAME AND IF YOU ARE NEW TO THIS PUTS A SOUR FEELING IN YOUR STOMACH AS FAR AS GOING ON. IS HE A POLLCAT? I THINK SO.
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Re: open top holsters
« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2007, 11:10:31 AM »
Howdy, Pards,

I DO NOT want to comment on any vendor's situation in particular, but would like to say something in general about custom makers of any kind of goods.  There are Federal Trade Commission rules about companies doing business in interstate commerce.  Vendors are supposed to state delivery times in their catalogs/ads.  If the vendor cannot deliver said product, the customer has the right to ask for his/her money back.  That does NOT mean you should automatically expect your money back on the day following the expiration of the time period stated.  But it DOES mean that if you request a refund IN WRITING (I don't know if e-mail counts as "in-writing"), you should get a refund within a week or so after the letter has been received by the vendor.  (One way to determine if the letter got there is to mail it Priority with either a Delivery Confirmation slip or by Registered Mail, Return Receipt Requested).

Now, as a one-man maker of custom leather products, I do state that delivery should be within 4 to 8 weeks time.  BUT there HAVE been situations where, due to health problems (temporary) or other conditions beyond my control, I have been unable to make the deadline.  In those cases, I have contacted the customer, generally by phone, and explained the situtation, offering to refund their money and cancel the order, or if they wanted to wait a REASONABLE amount of time (say another few weeks if I was under the weather).  In MOST of the FEW instances where this occurred, the customer elected to wait for his order to be completed.

Another thing that helps customers AND, IMHO, the vendor, is if payment is by credit card.  I ask for the credit card info SENT BY USPS MAIL, or on the PHONE.  I DO NOT and will not take credit card info by e-mail!!!!  That is for everyone's protection.  I ask for the information at the time of the order, but DO NOT CHARGE the card account until I'm just about ready to ship.  Credit card allows the vendor to be paid almost immediately, without waiting for checks to clear the banks, and the customer has the ability to protest the charge if there is a dispute that can't be ironed out.

In summary, I would suggest that IF you have a problem with contacting a vendor of custom goods, you send a registered letter, return receipt requested, asking for an update on the status of your order and/or cancelling the order and requesting a refund IN FULL within 5 business days.  If you get no response, then you may want to contact the FTC...  Do keep in mind, that if a one-person operation has HEALTH problems, he/she may not be a position to reply, and care-givers may not know anything or may not have signature authority (bad practice on the vendor's part!  :( ) to do refunds.  NOT SAYING IF THAT IS OR ISN'T THE CASE WITH ANY PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL... I don't KNOW!

Hope this is of some help...

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Re: open top holsters
« Reply #28 on: September 07, 2007, 08:31:34 AM »
Trailrider,

I would say you are a great provider of quality leather products from what I have heard.  Based upon the above posting I would also say you are a good businessman.  Alot of leather makers out there charge the credit cards immediately and I think that is a big problem with turn around time.  Once a company has got the money there is no real incentive to turn out the product in a timely fashion.  Perhaps if companies wanted to charge a 20 percent down payment that would be an acceptable upfront fee to charge and then bill the remainder just prior to shipment.  I am hard pressed to think of any other business that charges the total price of an item up front and then ends up sending the product months or years later.  I think we are all willing to wait an addtional amount of time to get quality work.  The problem is when a company states a certain turnaround time and then doubles or triples the time after getting payment, it is simply not fair and not good buisness.  I think when there are so many complaints about an individual leather maker showing up on CAS websites we all need to heed the warnings and find other makers to do our work such as yourself Trailmaker.  Keep up the good business ethics.   Regards,  Deadeye.
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Re: open top holsters
« Reply #29 on: September 20, 2007, 01:41:07 PM »
Trailmaker, I'm thinking about some leather for a pair of Open Tops.

Do you have a website for your products?

 

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