My Remmie babies!

[Tuolumne Lawman]

Here is a picture of my Remingtons.  On the Left is the Uberti gated factory 45 Colt conversion from Taylors.  On the right is the forged frame Uberti 1858 from Taylor's with Walt Kisrt's .45 Colt Kirst Konverter (non-gated).  Pictured are the boxes with the Winchester brand .46 rimfire boxes.  I will see if Bull can post a bigger pic.

[Marshal Will Wingam]

Those are fine-looking shootin' irons, pard. Thanks for the pic. How many does the factory conversion hold? 6 or 5?

[Tuolumne Lawman]

Howdy,

The factory conversion holds 6.  The cylinder is slightly larger, that is why the new forged frame 1858s have a larger cylinder opening than the older cast ones.  They use the same frame for both the percussion and the cartridge gunsss.  They still use the same size percussion cylinder as the cast guns, they just set the barrel slightly lower in the frame for the percussion cylinder, so it lines up with the smalller radius cylinder bore of the percussion.  Percussion cylinders do not work in the cartridge guns.  The ball would hit the bottom of the forcing cone of the higher set cartridge barrel, and percussion cylinders do not index in the cartridge guns either.

[Halfway Creek Charlie]

Very nice pistolas.
Here's my two new to me Pistola's. I got these from The Remington Kid. Both are Pietta's and both have been super tuned and antiqued.

[Tuolumne Lawman]

I like the ivory!

[Marshal Will Wingam]

The factory conversion holds 6.  The cylinder is slightly larger, that is why the new forged frame 1858s have a larger cylinder opening than the older cast ones.  They use the same frame for both the percussion and the cartridge gunsss.  They still use the same size percussion cylinder as the cast guns, they just set the barrel slightly lower in the frame for the percussion cylinder, so it lines up with the smalller radius cylinder bore of the percussion.  Percussion cylinders do not work in the cartridge guns.  The ball would hit the bottom of the forcing cone of the higher set cartridge barrel, and percussion cylinders do not index in the cartridge guns either.

Thanks, I was wondering about that. I like having the full 6. OK, I'll have to round one up one of these days, I guess.

[Marshal Will Wingam]

Fine pair of pistols, Charlie. They sure look like originals, don't they?

[Tuolumne Lawman]

I love the Uberti gated factory conversion.  It shoots like a house on fire! After I got it for the article I had it DROSed to me, but had to send it back for the 2007 catalog phots (yes, that's my gun in the catalog <G>).  I got it back after the photos.

I have used R&Ds before, and like them, but I have really fallen in love with the Kirst.  It is 5 shot, just as the original NMA .46 rimfires were, and that is OK.  I am going to duplicate the .46 rimfire Winchester loading with 26 grains of FFG Goex and a 230 SPG lubed bullet, probably a meister since I only cast for my .56-56 Spencer and don't have a lubrisizer.

Anyway, I think I like the cleaner lines of the Kirst.  IN addition, the hammer, grip, frame etc. are identicle on the factory conversion and the forged frame 1858 that the Kirst is in (I use it for CW cavalry re-enacting).  They handle virtually identically!

[Marshal Will Wingam]

I like having mis-matched pistols that feel the same. Mine are like that. Great fun. I'm glad to hear the new forged frame feels like the others.

[Marshal Tac]

TL, those are some purdy shooters....

HC Charlie.... I am in love with those Ivory grips. I have not been able to locate any for my antiques '58's... Mind me asking about where you found yours?

[Halfway Creek Charlie]

Marshall Will,
Yep they sure do.
You could be fooled by 'em if Rk had defarbed them too, but they still have the Pietta markings and all the proofs too. They are SWEEEET!

A plus, the '58 NMA accepts my R & D Uberti 44 Rem. Conversion cylinder. Dropped right in and aligned perfectly. It indexes like it was made for it. Tried it empty and with 6 in and she worked great both ways. There is no excessive gap at the breech either. How this works is beyond me.(this is the same R &D cylinder that fits my original Gunsmith Conversion too.) Not only am I a happy camper, I'm a lucky one too.

Marshall Tac,
I found them on the gun.... Sorry I couldn't resist.

They did come on the gun from Remington Kid.  The gun is pictured under his name and post somewhere on this forum. I think it was the gunsmithing forum At CAS City. I'll ask him where he got them. They look really good in person too. If I remember right, RK aged them.

[sharps54]

Howdy,

The factory conversion holds 6.  The cylinder is slightly larger, that is why the new forged frame 1858s have a larger cylinder opening than the older cast ones.  They use the same frame for both the percussion and the cartridge gunsss.  They still use the same size percussion cylinder as the cast guns, they just set the barrel slightly lower in the frame for the percussion cylinder, so it lines up with the smalller radius cylinder bore of the percussion.  Percussion cylinders do not work in the cartridge guns.  The ball would hit the bottom of the forcing cone of the higher set cartridge barrel, and percussion cylinders do not index in the cartridge guns either.

Tuolumne Lawman,
Is it any easier to use a capper with the conversion frame?

[Tuolumne Lawman]

The Uberti factory conversion frame does not work with percussion cylinders (*at this point).  It may be an option later.  As for the forged frame percusion models, they are about the same as the cast frame ones.  I just use a straight line capper.

[sharps54]

The Uberti factory conversion frame does not work with percussion cylinders (*at this point).  It may be an option later.  As for the forged frame percusion models, they are about the same as the cast frame ones.  I just use a straight line capper.

OK, thanks!

[Ben McCulloch]

Where did you get the grips for those? They certainly give the guns a different look along with the antique finish. They look great.