Sleaveles short leg summer union suit patterns

Started by gospel micah, April 16, 2007, 12:58:20 PM

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gospel micah

HOWDY does any one no where i can get a sleaveles  short leg Summer union suit pattern.

St. George

Never saw one - but since they didn't make them during the time frame - I never looked.

This one will be answered by Delmonico, I'd imagine.

Vaya,

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Delmonico

Same answer, not from our time period, the long sleeved ones only make it by about 5 years.
Mongrel Historian


Always get the water for the coffee upstream from the herd.

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The time has passed so quick, the years all run together now.

gospel micah

i saw one in tombstone the movie in one of the scenes i saw doc holiday sick in bed wearing a sleeveles undershirt

Delmonico

Quote from: gospel micah on April 16, 2007, 03:19:19 PM
i saw one in tombstone the MOVIE in one of the scenes i saw doc holiday sick in bed wearing a sleeveles undershirt

You notice I put movie in caps, bold and red.
Mongrel Historian


Always get the water for the coffee upstream from the herd.

Ab Ovo Usque ad Mala

The time has passed so quick, the years all run together now.

St. George

Using the 'John Ford Reference Library' as a primary source for documenting period dress and equipment will lead to many, many misconceptions.

Movie makers and their costume departments dress stars for effect - not for historical accuracy - and they also dress them as to personal taste.

For example - John Wayne hated high-waisted trousers - so he always wore belts - and 'that' little tid-bit comes from Harry Carey Jr.'s autobiography - 'Company of Heroes - My Life as an Actor in the John Ford Stock Company'.

Buscadero rigs were a Hollywood invention, since they looked more dramatic and offered a relatively faster draw than did a period Mexican Loop rig worn high on the waist.

Hell - Howard Hughes even designed a bra for his then-girlfriend Jane Russell - for 'The Outlaw' - saving his picture through judicious use of engineering, propaganda and lace.

Hollywood is 'Hollywood' - and the idea is to sell tickets to movies - and to hell with authenticity so long as it's entertaining to the masses...

That explains the use of Colt Single Actions and Winchester Model '92 Carbines in post-Civil War oaters, along with visible aircraft contrails, tire tracks and swept-looking Main Streets...

Vaya,

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It Wasn't Schoolboys and Ladies - It Was Cowtowns and Sin..."

Delmonico

If you are really set on a pair buy a regular pattern and modify it.  Last I checked McCalls or Simplicity had them.
Mongrel Historian


Always get the water for the coffee upstream from the herd.

Ab Ovo Usque ad Mala

The time has passed so quick, the years all run together now.

Steel Horse Bailey

Howdy!

The others have already answered the time frame issues, but perhaps Chantilly will chime in here.  She wrote an article in The Shootist  (the official bi-monthly publication of NCOWS) and had reprinted pictures from old turn-of-the-Century catalogs showing the shorty Union suits.  I think they came about around 1905-1910.  I didn't know (until her article) that such an item even existed.

Long before the 1900s there were undergarments made of cotton, wool or perhaps linen, but they weren't knit.

You might post this question on the NCOWS forum: she "hangs out" there pretty often.  She's VERY knowledgeable about clothing and fashion styles and dates.
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Oh man!! :o  I was in the Salvation Army today and saw some.  Just hanging right there on the rack.  NOT PC, so I smiled and walked right on by. ;D
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