Lyman New Army

Started by John E. Ringo, April 09, 2007, 06:28:41 PM

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John E. Ringo

I handled an old Lyman-Remington New Army at a gunshop on Saturday. At first I thought it was an original Remmie. It had a beautiful brown patina and had obviously been fired a lot. And yet the cylinder lockup was tight and the cylinder notches were in great shape. It had a few dents in the gripframe, as if it had been used to pound a nail, but nothing too severe. I would have bought it, except the price was $179.95. This seemed high. What do y'all think? Were these good guns?

Dusty Morningwood

A friend of mine bought one of these in 1972 (at least I think it was a Lyman) and I recall it being a fine piece.  The price is a bit steep since it may not be compatible with available parts.

Halfway Creek Charlie

That Lyman Remy is made by Euroarms...IF....there is no threads showing at the breech like a NMA. Euroarms/Armi San Paolo replicated an Old Model Army NOT a NMA and parts are available from S & S firearms in Glendale, N.Y.

Here is a link to their Catalog download website. www.ssfirearms.com.

That price is way too high. You can buy a brand new Euroarms Remy for $220.00 at S & S.

I'd go back and offer $100.00 for it. 

As an aside, Euroarms Parts interchange with orifginal Remy parts...except for some of the screws. The hand screw does!
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Old Baldy

Howdy Folks,
I think Lyman sold Colt replicas made by Euroarms and Remington replicas made by Uberti. The Lyman replicas are going up in price due to the collectors are starting to pick up on them. When folks start to collect something, the price always goes up.
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John E. Ringo

I'll look at it again this weekend and report back.

Halfway Creek Charlie

Euroarms made some of ther Remingtons sold by Lyman. I do not know if they made them all. I think Lyman used Euroarms first???
Look at the breech end of the bbl if you see threads it is NOT a Euroarms. This I know for sure.
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Shooting History (original), Remy NMA Conversions, 1863 New Model Pocket Model C.F. Conversion, Remy Model 1889 12Ga. Coach Gun
2nd. Gen. "C" Series Colt 1851 Navies
Centennial Arms/Centaur 1860 Armies
1860 Civilian Henry 45LC (soon to be 44 Henry Flat C.F.(Uberti)
Remingon Creedmore Rolling Block 45-70 (Pedersoli)

"Cut his ears off and send them to that Marshall in Sheridan" Prentice Ritter

Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity
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John E. Ringo

I remember that the gun had a 7.5" barrel, not the standard 8". I thought this odd. I'll re-check it Saturday.

Steel Horse Bailey

Was it the Army .44 or the Navy .36 that had the 7.5" barrel originally?

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Halfway Creek Charlie

Origianl NMA's had 8Inch bbls, I do not know about the Navy's but I think the Navy's might have had 7.5 Inch bbls. I'll have to look it up and see I don't have a Navy here to look at.  Sounds like a 36 Cal Navy to me though.
SAS-76873
NCOWS-2955
SCORRS
STORM-243
WARTHOG

Shooting History (original), Remy NMA Conversions, 1863 New Model Pocket Model C.F. Conversion, Remy Model 1889 12Ga. Coach Gun
2nd. Gen. "C" Series Colt 1851 Navies
Centennial Arms/Centaur 1860 Armies
1860 Civilian Henry 45LC (soon to be 44 Henry Flat C.F.(Uberti)
Remingon Creedmore Rolling Block 45-70 (Pedersoli)

"Cut his ears off and send them to that Marshall in Sheridan" Prentice Ritter

Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity
.

John E. Ringo

I saw the gun again today. I was wrong; it has an 8" barrel. The tag read "7.5". It has visible threads at the breech.

Halfway Creek Charlie

It is probably Uberti or Pietta then. I'll look in my research material and see I I can clarify who made it.
SAS-76873
NCOWS-2955
SCORRS
STORM-243
WARTHOG

Shooting History (original), Remy NMA Conversions, 1863 New Model Pocket Model C.F. Conversion, Remy Model 1889 12Ga. Coach Gun
2nd. Gen. "C" Series Colt 1851 Navies
Centennial Arms/Centaur 1860 Armies
1860 Civilian Henry 45LC (soon to be 44 Henry Flat C.F.(Uberti)
Remingon Creedmore Rolling Block 45-70 (Pedersoli)

"Cut his ears off and send them to that Marshall in Sheridan" Prentice Ritter

Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity
.

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