Broken shell extractor for .45 Colt?

[RattlesnakeJack]

Does anyone know where I can get a broken shell extractor for .45 Colt?   

Brownell's used to have such an animal, but has discontinued it ... 

Alternatively, does anyone know if the one they still carry for .44-40 might work for .45 Colt?

[Doc Shapiro]

For what type of gun?

[RattlesnakeJack]

For lever-action rifle(s) chambered in .45 Colt ...

[Wild Ben Raymond]

What kind of rifle Marlin, Win. 66' 73', clone Win. 92' or 94' be more spicific, lever action rifle isn't enough info & you might get some help.

[RattlesnakeJack]

It appears that we are talking at cross purposes here ...

The "broken shell extractor" I am seeking would not be specific to any particular firearm - only to the type of cartridge involved! 

Just to clarify, I am not asking about a replacement for a rifle extractor which has "broken" - rather, I am looking for a stand alone tool called a "broken shell extractor" .... used following a head separation by chambering it and closing the action (which causes it to grip the inner surface of the remnant of the cartridge case in the chamber, which is then extracted upon opening the action ...   They are readily available for commoner cartridges (.30-06, .303 British, etc. - even .44-40) but Brownells website indicates that the one they formerly stocked for use in .45 Colt chambers has been "Dropped by Brownells"...

A link to the Brownells listing for the type of item I am seeking:
http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=10972&title=ECHO+BROKEN+SHELL+EXTRACTOR

(I gather that "ECHO" is the manufacturer, but I can't seem to locate anyone else who stocks a .45 Colt version .... nor can I seem to locate the manufacturer by searching "ECHO".)

[Doc Shapiro]

Ohhhh, now I understand.  Sorry about that.  I would have suggested Brownells.  I'm not sure who else would have one.

[Camille Eonich]

I can find them for jsut about every caliber but a .45 

[RattlesnakeJack]

I've sent off an enquiry to Brownell's - they obviously carried a .45 Colt version at one time, so I've asked if they can steer me to the manufacturer, or perhaps to another retailer carrying it ...

[Delmonico]

Jack, may I assume you have a broken case stuck in a gun?  If so try a new and dry bronze bore brush pushed in from the muzzle and see if it will push the case out.  I have a 99 Savage in 243 that will once in a while break a case if you try to get to many miles out of a case or you don't set the die up exactly for the rifles chamber.  A new bore brush pushed in fron the muzzel on a cleaning rod has always fixed it.

[RattlesnakeJack]

I don't currently have the problem, but it has happened to me on three or four occasions during shoots - and for whatever reason,  it has proven impossible (except for once) to easily extract the case remnant at the time ... forcing me to use my backup rifle, or borrow one ....  Twice, I had to resort to a gunsmith since I couldn't even get the darn thing out at home no matter what I did (including the borebrush method ...) 

The removal difficulty I have experienced is most likely due to the fact that in the rush of shooting a scenario I don't notice that only the case head has been extracted ... the problem only becomes apparent when the new cartridge won't chamber - and by then it has rammed the broken case very tightly into the chamber!   

At a WWII weapons shoot, weekend before last, I was using .303 British ammo loaded by my team-mate in original 1944-dated cases, and had two casehead separations - however my team-mate had a broken case extractor in his pocket, and I was flabbergasted at how quickly and easily this little gizmo extracted the case and got me shooting again.  Now I definitely want one for .45 Colt (and for .303 British which I also shoot a lot of ...)

[Delmonico]

Ok, makes sense the two times it happened to me were both in the same BR match.  I was catching the brass with my hand and noticed a 45 ACP Extra Short in my hand rather than 243.   Used to shoot 300 yard BR in the State Games with the 99 in 243 just for fun, did quire well in the Light weight out of the box class.  Like a SMLE a 99 locks in the back and can stretch a case a bit when loads get hot.

[RattlesnakeJack]

Yes indeed, the Lee-Enfield is rather notorious for that - never a problem, really, in military applications where cartridges are a "fire only once" proposition, but reloaders are well aware that you are lucky to get more than 2 or 3 reloadings before separations begin to occur.

Come to think of it, at the WWII shoot I mentioned I actually had three head separations with his old, brittle brass    ... but one of them extracted in an unique way: the next cartridge feeding (being a bottleneck with a tapered case body) entered  and jammed in the broken case.  The bolt wouldn't close all the way, of course, and the loaded cartridge acted as a broken case extractor itself ... though the overall length of the combined cartridge and broken case prevented ejection until I removed the magazine and pushed the combination down through the magazine well ...

Ironically, up until that stage I had been using new, commercially-loaded soft-point ammo, and had experienced a significant problem in the previous event when one of them misfed, flattening the lead nose against the front of the magazine, so that it would not rise and feed at all.     My team-mate insisted that I shoot the final stage with his full-jacketed ammo to avoid that problem, and I then experienced this rash of head separations!

[Delmonico]

Setting a full length size die to size the neck and a bit of the body, stopping it as it just bumps the shoulder would help a lot on the SMLE but then the ammo should always be used in the same rifle.   Also a small hook run down the inside of the case to feel for a thin spot down by the head will help prevent head seperations also.  I am surprised though your 45 Colt is doing this.