Nagant revolvers

Judge Jake McCord · August 09, 2006, 12:40:13 PM

I understand that the 1895 Nagant is legal for CAS. Does anyone on this board use one and if so, what is your opinion of this weapon?

Judge Jake McCord

Silver Creek Slim · August 09, 2006, 01:31:39 PM

As it is a double-action pistol, it is not legal for SASS. But, it is legal for NCOWS.

Slim

Judge Jake McCord · August 09, 2006, 01:52:42 PM

Wasn't it also issued in a SA-only version?

Judge Jake McCord

Silver Creek Slim · August 09, 2006, 02:03:29 PM

They may have been, but I don't know. The info, I Googled, stated they were DA.

Slim

Terry Lane · August 09, 2006, 02:07:35 PM

Howdy all,
don't remember all the details, but there is a single action only version. My understanding is that it's less available and thus costs more. Take care.

Silver Creek Slim · August 09, 2006, 02:08:54 PM

Thanks, Terry.

Slim

Old Top · August 09, 2006, 04:27:56 PM

I beleive there was a discussion on this that the double action can be converted to single action very easily.

Old Top

Micheal Fortune · August 09, 2006, 06:27:47 PM

We have a member that has one that is single action and shoots it regularly.

It's a bit cumbersome and slow but hey, it's not all about speed.

Silver Creek Slim · August 10, 2006, 09:25:37 AM

Quote from: Micheal Fortune on August 09, 2006, 06:27:47 PM
We have a member that has one that is single action and shoots it regularly.

It's a bit cumbersome and slow but hey, it's not all about speed.

What?!?! <Slim faints.>

Slim

Delmonico · August 10, 2006, 05:33:40 PM

The single actions as per my understanding hare highly tuned target guns and don't use the gas seal, I think many are 32 S&W Long and shoot wadcutters.

ColonelFlashman · August 15, 2006, 10:58:54 PM

Quote from: Delmonico on August 10, 2006, 05:33:40 PM
The single actions as per my understanding hare highly tuned target guns and don't use the gas seal, I think many are 32 S&W Long and shoot wadcutters.

No, not @ all, this conversion to .32 S&W Long is a Rather resent thing here in the U.S. for those that did not wish to trouble themselves w/ finding & shooting the Nagants Original Gas Cheque Cartridge.

As per the Norm for the European Military minds, N.C.O.'s were allowed to carry a Sidearm, but Only in the Single Action variation, where as Officers could carry the Double Action varition.

Delmonico · August 18, 2006, 05:02:48 PM

I know there were many "surplus: changed to 32 S&W Long, but there was an atrical somewhere about 15 years ago somewhere on the target versions of the Nagants, they don't use the gas seal and I'm sure most were 32 S&W Long. Don't know where I read it, but it was an article on 32 Long wadcutter target loads.

ColonelFlashman · August 19, 2006, 03:04:35 AM

Quote from: Delmonico on August 18, 2006, 05:02:48 PM
I know there were many "surplus: changed to 32 S&W Long, but there was an atrical somewhere about 15 years ago somewhere on the target versions of the Nagants, they don't use the gas seal and I'm sure most were 32 S&W Long. Don't know where I read it, but it was an article on 32 Long wadcutter target loads.

Cheque "Guns & Ammo" for that article.

Delmonico · August 19, 2006, 10:20:07 AM

Could have been, I got rid of most that stuff, I was playing with 32 Long Wadcutters in a 32 mag at the time, was why I even bought the magazine.

Plano Bill · August 20, 2006, 08:59:40 PM

Doggone, read this thread and hadda go get my '38 M1895 outta the safe.

Yep, came in both DA & SA flavors, & the DA can be converted to SA without a lotta fuss. DA pull is horrible, but there are a couple tricks for lightening and smoothing it a bit.

Tried Fiocchi & some surplus Russian stuff - mild, reasonably accurate but smoky & dirty ammo. Over on the military surplus sites, there was always a debate about the safety of .32H&R mag in Nagants (one manufacturer - don't recall which - even stated that their H&R mag was safe for 'em). I tried it - frame heated up real quick and there was always an impressive flash around the cylinder, but the cases only bulged a wee bit, never stuck & never split. Seemed a bit much for the frame, so I don't recommend it.

Other folks have gotten hold of aftermarket .32acp cylinders made for th M95, and back when a custom ammo maker was putting up some 10.4x38 rounds for a Swiss M1878 Vetterli for me, he mentioned that he had the original Russian dies & molds for Nagant target ammo, so I got a couple boxes. Sweet stuff (though the bullets weren't rebated into the cases like the true thing), but very expensive.

Nagants are inexpensive & fun, if slow to reload. Probably need to handload for best results & cost-efficiency.

W.T.

Nagant revolvers

Plano Bill