Cimarron RM Conversion in .38S&W

Uncle Stinky · September 09, 2006, 03:09:58 PM

I've got one of the above. I've never seen anything in Cimarron literature showing they ever made such a beast.......just .44's and now I understand in .45 Scho. Does anyone know how many of these .38S&W's were imported and sold here?

Regards...........Uncle Stinky

Major 2 · September 09, 2006, 03:41:11 PM

I may depend on when yours was manufactured...

The current guns are by Uberti.... take a good look, does it have an Richards Type I /1860 barrel or the R&M/Opentop barrel.

ASM manufactured 38 cal. Type I (ish) conversion in the early to mid 90's.
These were Imported by Cimmaron, Navy Arms, EMF and it seems USPFA under their pre- name change to USFA.
These were not bad guns, however, Traditions also imported these at a cheaper price, and quality reflected the cheaper price.

Tradition's copies were hit and miss as to quality control , fit & finish... mostly I've seen the Tradition's Navy Conversions.

I have seen a few Army Conversions, one Cimmaron , and a EMF or two, these were far better.

Uncle Stinky · September 09, 2006, 05:47:44 PM

Mine is an 1860.....latest issue from Uberti purchased new about 6 months ago. I answered my own question this afternoon when I read on this forum that Uberti produced approx. forty 1860 conversions with an 8" barrel in .38S&W. The cylinder is not stepped and looks like a 51', barrel is not for an Open Top with rear sight and is a full 8" in length. That makes mine either very collectible or very undesirable..... depending how you look at it. It shoots like a dream.

Major 2 · September 10, 2006, 07:20:55 AM

undesirable ?? NOT by a Long SHOT !

sounds like a keeper, I'd like to see it.... I didn't know there were any made in 38 in 06.
That's unique with only 40 made, I'll keep a eye out.

any chance you could post a photo ?

Uncle Stinky · September 10, 2006, 03:59:27 PM

Sure! Send e-mail address and I'll send out the pictures as attachments.

Major 2 · September 10, 2006, 04:24:10 PM

Done & Done

Major 2 · September 10, 2006, 07:33:24 PM

Very nice 72 Opentop , Bill

rare caliber too.

Pettifogger · September 10, 2006, 10:22:14 PM

Are you sure its a .38 S&W and not a .38 S&W Special? Seems odd Uberti would be making .38 S&W's since no one has chambered that round for many years.

Uncle Stinky · September 12, 2006, 11:12:06 AM

Let me clarify......It's a new Cimarron 1860 R-M Conversion by Uberti, .38 S&W Special, 8" round barrel with no rear sight, notched hammer, non-rebated cylinder with Navy battle scene. Odd but true. Looks like a regular .44cal but with a '51 cylinder.

Uncle Stinky · September 12, 2006, 07:10:02 PM

For more info. see Abilene's post from May 30. He has the skinny on this.

Major 2 · September 12, 2006, 07:48:28 PM

Here it is
http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,9711.0.html

I remember the post , even responded to it.

here's what he said "....Oh yeah, one other thing. Uberti made a "mistake" and made some mongrel guns. They are Richards-Mason "Army" conversions in 38 Spcl. They have Army grips, frame and cylinder appear to be regular '51 R-M parts (not rebated cylinder and stepped frame of the '60), and it has a round 8" barrel. I think they got 40 or so of these guns. So if someone wants a 38 Spcl conversion but wants the Army grip, or if you just want something "different", you might consider this one."

Pretty cool there , Bill