Nickle plated 'OWA' revolvers?

Started by buckskin billy, January 31, 2011, 01:17:21 PM

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buckskin billy

Howdy y'all,
Were there any nickle plated OWA inspected revolvers that left the Colt factory that way?
I thought I remember reading some where some time ago about nickle plated guns being issued to scouts.
Now I can't find that source.
I have been searching on google and all I can find is one that was sent back to colt in the 1920's to be nickle plated.

Any help would be appreciated
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St. George

No.

Scouts - being Contract Employees - carried whatever the Quartermaster issued them - usually older-pattern weapons remaining on Post, unless they possessed their own.

I believe you're thinking of the nickelled 'buy-back' revolvers purchased and refinished and sold on the civilian market.

Indian Police did have nickelled Model 1875 Remingtons in .45 Colt - apparently a single-purchase, never renewed.

They supplemented these with a purchase filled from commercial stock, though sold to the U.S. Government and issued by them - since they did 'not' go through an Ordnance Inspection, they are 'not' so-marked.

Much more can be found in Kopec and Fenn's 'Colt Cavalry and Artillery Revolvers - A Continuing Study'.

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JimBob

I'm curious. Wouldn't firearms issued to the Indian Police have been under the authority of the Dept. of the Interior as far as purchase and issue through the Bureau of Indian Affairs?

St. George

Yes.

The Indian Police fell under the Secretary of the Interior, as a part of the Office of Indian Affairs.

Colt sold them to the U.S. Government and shipped "c/o U.S. Indian Agent" - at the U.S. Indian Warehouse, loacted at 77-79 Wooster Street, New York, on May 26, 1899.

Paid for from the appropriation 'Pay of Indian Police, 1899'.

They were 75  5 1/2" barrelled, blued .45s.

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JimBob

Quote from: St. George on January 31, 2011, 04:25:16 PM
Yes.

The Indian Police fell under the Secretary of the Interior, as a part of the Office of Indian Affairs.

Colt sold them to the U.S. Government and shipped "c/o U.S. Indian Agent" - at the U.S. Indian Warehouse, loacted at 77-79 Wooster Street, New York, on May 26, 1899.

Paid for from the appropriation 'Pay of Indian Police, 1899'.

They were 75  5 1/2" barrelled, blued .45s.

Vaya,

Scouts Out!

Thank you for the information. :)

buckskin billy

i have just got a cimarron nickled model p with the OWA inspections. i'm just trying to figure on how i can work this in my persona of a civilian of the 1870's with a nickle plated revolver with government inspections on it.
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St. George

Colt 'did' buy-back some of its Government revolvers to be refinished for commercial sales - but no Ainsworth-inspected revolvers were involved, since those were from the earliest contracts and the buy-backs came later in production.

A suggestion would be that 'you' had your revolver plated after you'd purchased it from Ordnance after your service.

The problem being that - for your stated time frame - the Army would've hung onto the weapon, because primary production was to fill Government Contracts and those revolvers were in short supply, with civilian sales coming along later, so a 'US'-marked Colt would likely indicate a stolen weapon.

Vaya,

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Delmonico

I guess one could portray a fella that took the grand bounce and took his sidearm along and had it refinished.  The grand bounce was quite common.
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buckskin billy

about when did this buy out take place? don't won't to portray a thief or a grand bouncer ;)
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Delmonico

Quote from: buckskin billy on February 01, 2011, 05:22:26 PM
about when did this buy out take place? don't won't to portray a thief or a grand bouncer ;)

Some parts of the west it would be considered better than an honorably discharged one, soldiers were not often looked at with respect by most civilians.
Mongrel Historian


Always get the water for the coffee upstream from the herd.

Ab Ovo Usque ad Mala

The time has passed so quick, the years all run together now.

St. George

'Buy-Back' Colts came about in the mid-1880's - after Ainsworth.

Vaya,

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