Remington Revolving Carbine

Started by 9245, November 23, 2024, 09:27:18 PM

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Coffinmaker


 :) Well . . . OK ;)

Try and remember, for SASS and NCOWS, you can't carry charged and capped cylinders no matter the method.  Not legal for either activity.  You might also consider placing a nice leather spacer between those cylinders to keep them apart whilst you're rolling down the hill into the briar patch  :o   Constantly banging together will mar the blueing.  Did you make the pouch in your tin Type??

Since your not intending to actually play our games, I would also be want to point out, in the time it takes you to re-load, the really annoyed Bear is going to have you for an appetizer  ;D

9245

Quote from: Coffinmaker on November 28, 2024, 08:50:51 AM:) Well . . . OK ;)

Try and remember, for SASS and NCOWS, you can't carry charged and capped cylinders no matter the method.  Not legal for either activity.  You might also consider placing a nice leather spacer between those cylinders to keep them apart whilst you're rolling down the hill into the briar patch  :o   Constantly banging together will mar the blueing.  Did you make the pouch in your tin Type??

Since your not intending to actually play our games, I would also be want to point out, in the time it takes you to re-load, the really annoyed Bear is going to have you for an appetizer  ;D

I was just pointing out that it could conceivably have been done, and using what we know was commonly available, no special unobtainium pouch required, especially post war when surplus revolvers were being dumped for dirt cheap.  I am already aware that carrying capped cylinders like that, safe or not (and I believe that it would be) is not match legal.  I think that's a mistake, but it is what it is.

My question regarding the cylinder in this thread, regarding specifically the revolving carbine and match use has been answered already.  The reason I posted the picture was just in case anyone was interested in the concept.  My own personal reasons for why I would want a pouch like that have nothing to do with competition and everything to do with hunting, convenience, and preparedness for future ammunition shortages.  (Remember 4 years ago where we went over a year where ammunition and reloading components were basically unavailable outside of scalpers?  Well I do, and lets just say the experience left an impression, I could foresee several scenarios where that could happen again, long term, and in such a scenario, that is my spare "magazine" pouch.)

Mogorilla

That is a great way to carry them.   Just cap on the clock, or if it is your first set of shooting, you cap at the loading table.   On a side, for the Howell cylinders, the 2 piece ones, you can get spare cylinder portions, load them and carry as shown, but the back plate is singular and when you switch, it is part of the switch that stays with the pistol.   expensive, but doable. 

9245

Quote from: Mogorilla on November 28, 2024, 10:04:32 AMThat is a great way to carry them.   Just cap on the clock, or if it is your first set of shooting, you cap at the loading table.   On a side, for the Howell cylinders, the 2 piece ones, you can get spare cylinder portions, load them and carry as shown, but the back plate is singular and when you switch, it is part of the switch that stays with the pistol.   expensive, but doable. 

There is also room to either side of those cylinders where the back plate would fit ;)

Coffinmaker


Ah Nope.  You missed it.  Mogo was suggesting you tote the loaded cylinder WITHOUT the cap.  The cap with the firing pins stays ON THE GUN.  You would only be swapping out the cylinders.

In line with that idea, you might also consider the Kirst NON gated converter with the "Double Up" option where you get one backing plate with Firing Pin and TWO cylinders.  Buy one of those for each gun and PRESTO!! you have loaded cylinders in the guns and TWO loaded cylinders ready to swap in.  With this option, the recoil plate with firing pin stays with the gun.

Major 2

I'm still trying to understand the logic...

Assuming one is buying at scratch ...the Uberti Remington Revolving carbine lists  $477.08 - $646.89 retail, assuming they are in stock'
 A pair of R&D drop-ins $240-ish (Actually Taylors among others carry them)
Or say just one and the percussion staying on the budget...
So. $500-ish + $250-ish = $750 less you find it all used at better price points.

Chances are the dude selling the used Remington Revolving carbine is funding the lever gun he really wanted in the first place.  ???

If you really want to shoot CAS, save your beans and get a Lever Gun a 66 or 73.
 A far more harmonious outcome awaits you.


 



when planets align...do the deal !

9245

Quote from: Coffinmaker on November 28, 2024, 03:44:44 PMAh Nope.  You missed it.  Mogo was suggesting you tote the loaded cylinder WITHOUT the cap.  The cap with the firing pins stays ON THE GUN.  You would only be swapping out the cylinders.

In line with that idea, you might also consider the Kirst NON gated converter with the "Double Up" option where you get one backing plate with Firing Pin and TWO cylinders.  Buy one of those for each gun and PRESTO!! you have loaded cylinders in the guns and TWO loaded cylinders ready to swap in.  With this option, the recoil plate with firing pin stays with the gun.

How would that work?  The back plate just fits over a pin on the cylinder, how would you remove the cylinder but not the back plate, and then how would you reinstall the cylinder?  I can't see how to do that without removing the back plate.  Or am I just not understanding?

9245

Quote from: Major 2 on November 28, 2024, 05:52:12 PMI'm still trying to understand the logic...

Assuming one is buying at scratch ...the Uberti Remington Revolving carbine lists  $477.08 - $646.89 retail, assuming they are in stock'
 A pair of R&D drop-ins $240-ish (Actually Taylors among others carry them)
Or say just one and the percussion staying on the budget...
So. $500-ish + $250-ish = $750 less you find it all used at better price points.

Chances are the dude selling the used Remington Revolving carbine is funding the lever gun he really wanted in the first place.  ???

If you really want to shoot CAS, save your beans and get a Lever Gun a 66 or 73.
 A far more harmonious outcome awaits you.


 





Two reasons, the cheapest I have seen a non Rossi lever action has been $1,000+  Most more like $1,200+ so I would still come out $500 cheaper.  The second is that it would give me the option of getting things piecemeal as funds allow.

Abilene

Like somebody else said, look for used stuff.  A quick look at gunbroker shows a '66 in 44-40 for $880.
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OklaTom

@9245,

Check this used one out. Looks to be the Sporting Rifle (24 1/4" barrel) from Navy Arms in 45 Colt. Auction ends in 2 days. If you are careful with your bid timing, you might be able to snag it for less than the cost of a Remington Revolving Rifle and a conversion cylinder. The rifle will have much more consistent bullet placement than 5 45 Colt from one cylinder and 5 .454 balls on powder.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1077164048
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