I’m getting a new rifle

Started by Gundogblue, February 01, 2024, 06:53:39 AM

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Gundogblue

It's been a while since I've been here, but it's good to be back. I don't participate in cawboy action shootin  nor do I hunt, but I do love cawboy guns and shootin them. I have steel targets set up on the property and enjoy killing steel every day. I'm not new to leeever guns as I already have 4 of them, a Henry Goldenboy, a Henry Bigboy in .357 mag, an 1894  Marlin in .44 mag, and a Miroku  made 1892 Winchester In .45 Colt. Last Tuesday I ordered a new Cimarron 1873 short rifle in .45 Colt, I'm really excited about it, I've always wanted an 1873 Winchester, ya know the gun that won the west😁!
I know this gun's internals are completely different from my other leeever guns, from what I've read, that toggle link action isn't nearly as strong as the others, so I'm thinking it's prob best to keep my loads at the starting loads in the loadin manuals.
I also cast my own boolits, so the first thing I'm gonna do is slug the barrel, so I know what size to size my cast boolits. Another thing I've read is these rifles are really finicky to COAL, I'd appriciate it if any of you guys that have a rifle like this could point me to a good COAL to start with.
Paul

DeaconKC

Hiya Gundog, I have good results in my 1873 and my 1866 with 7.5 grains of Unique under a 200 grain RNFP. It's a mid-range load.
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Congratulations, I have the same rifle and really like it.  Going off memory (insert joke), I usually run a 200g RNFP over 5.8g of Trailboss at 1.580".

Johnny McCrae

Quote from: Tornado on February 01, 2024, 09:49:25 AM
Congratulations, I have the same rifle and really like it.  Going off memory (insert joke), I usually run a 200g RNFP over 5.8g of Trailboss at 1.580".
This is the same load I use.
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Abilene

The toggle link action isn't really "weak" but is not as robust as your '92.  Any load that you find in a loading manual will be safe, as long as it doesn't say "for Ruger or Thompson only".

The action on your '73 can be made much lighter and more friendly with a few simple twists of a screwdriver on some over-heavy springs: https://www.davidscottharper.com/shoot/PoorMan.htm
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Gundogblue

Thanks much for all the good info, I really appriciate it. It's good to know any load in the manuals, except for Ruger and Thomson is safe to shoot in the 73. As I said I only shoot for recreation at steel plates and paper targets so I keep my loads pretty mild anyway. They shoot good, don't lead up the barrel, nor beat me or the gun up. Now it's just waiting for her to come in, I ordered it on Tuesday, so there's a chance it might come in today, I've wanted a 73 for a long time, I'm pretty excited.
Paul

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Baltimore Ed

Glad to have you back. Life sometimes gets in the way of our hobbies. As to your new rifle, congrats, short 1873 rifles are great looking and fun to shoot. I'll add there's nothing wrong with a uberti 1873 that aftermarket springs and screws can't smooth out but try it before you change anything. You'll really like your 73. I have 3 toggle links and two '94s. Good shooting.
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King Medallion

Phhttt! They ain't cowboy guns unless the caliber has a dash in it!!  >:( ;) ;D
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Abilene

Quote from: King Medallion on February 25, 2024, 07:55:08 AM
Phhttt! They ain't cowboy guns unless the caliber has a dash in it!!  >:( ;) ;

What about 44 rimfire?  :D
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Reverend P. Babcock Chase

Howdy King M.

I don't have any cowboy guns with a dash. I have some long range guns with a slash (/). I've always preferred to use a slash rather than a dash. I also think that the .45 Colt should never ba referred to as "long". I guess I'm a hidebound traditionalist.

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Hair Trigger Jim

Quote from: King Medallion on February 25, 2024, 07:55:08 AM
Phhttt! They ain't cowboy guns unless the caliber has a dash in it!!  >:( ;) ;D

What's with this newfangled dash instead of just a W.C.F.?
Hair Trigger Jim

King Medallion

Quote from: Hair Trigger Jim on February 25, 2024, 11:39:21 PM
What's with this newfangled dash instead of just a W.C.F.?
Too many caps and periods.  ;D
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Baltimore Ed

My 45colt rifle load has been 5.2 gr Clays or Clay Dot with a 225-255 gr rnfp or swc forever. I use the same load in my Schofield brass too.
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 :) Gundogblue ;)

Pictures Man!!  Pictures!!  You've had going on SIX MONTHS and NO PICTURES.  WITHOUT Pictures, it didn't happen.  Get with the program here.  Bunch of folks here frothing at the mouth waiting for the Tin Types!!  Get a Move On Pilgrim  ;D

Abilene

Quote from: Coffinmaker on August 18, 2024, 06:10:09 PM:) Gundogblue ;)

Pictures Man!!... Get with the program here...

That's funny coming from you.  :D

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Abilene

Well, since gundogblue hasn't been around here in the past 6 months, I'm not holding my breath for pics.  Instead, here's a pic of not one, but 5 '73's.  So, no, not GDB's new 45 short rifle, but they are all Cimarrons.  :)  16", 18", two 19", 20"
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 :) Hey Hey Hey  ;)

Lighten up you guys.  When Tin Types are called for, this Luddite begs a trusted agent for help with the Pix.  Although, me, calling for pix is kinda Oxymoron iddnit.

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