Got a pancake holster proto-type done.  A few bugs with it that will have to be fixed, but it's headin' in the right direction.

http://www.willghormley-maker.com/1911.html

Will

Nice!!!

AC

Will,
I have a new favorite holster I think. That pancake looks like a BBQ rig if I ever saw one. Very neat design.

Lookin forward to this pack of patterns.
DM

Will, I really like the flap swivel one it is like the one I shot my first WB match in several years ago.  I hooked the flap on the hanger so it was out of the way and never had a problem but mine didn't have the leg strap or look as good.  I think I picked it up from Coon Creek the Year before.  How about including a 3 slot pancake holster in that pack..  Everyone does the folded Threepersons styles nobody does the pancake type.  I am currently checking several of the DVDs on holsters and so far it is all folded holsters no pancake ones.  I looked at Bianchi, hurst and waiting on Dusty's to be delivered.

I like the pancake too, except the carving that is hidden by the gun make you want to pull the gun out all the time so you can see it.

I'm goin' to re-configure it with a thumb-release strap and a wider pouch to accept 1911s with larger sights than the originals.

With the three slots, it hangs straight or angled, without any modifications to the pattern.  I like it!

Will

They all look awsome to me.  The shapes and style alone are great, the carving is just eyecandy.  .  I like the second one the most still, but the flap holster is now the new #2. 

I'm with you mtgelaude, #2 just brings out my gamy side (not talking BO here either  ).  Lets vote, in order of  preference, I vote 2,4,1,3, and 5.  I think #4 will prove to be a money maker for those who like the military dress-up 'on a budget' side of the game.  As we know there are more than a few who will prefer the bling offered by #1, while #3 will go well with the working cowboy or conservative traditional lawman look.  I really like #5 but consider it more of a modern working/sports style.  When I get mine, I will likely alter all to open toe designs except for #1 and #4 which are actually enhanced by the closed toe.

Bob,    that is about my vote too.  I would say 2, 4, 1, with 3 and five ranking aobut equal.  If I was the type to wear a CCW, I would like 5, but I like the idea of the very basic holster with nothing to get hung up on somthing.  IDK, I still love No. 2.  It is like a Mexan Loop/Defensve Carry/Hand of God kind of holster.  Now only if I had one of those Cimarron 1911's to go with it, ( do not think they are legal in this state  )

Unless you are in Europe...they are legal in every state.  Some countries in Europe do not allow calibers larger than..... I think it is .38/.357

I would really think the top three would line up just like that for any pards here who use these as patterns for their SASS Wild Bunch holster line.  I just spent a little time in the shop working on a magazine pattern like the one JD uses.  It is a dandy and somewhat simple to construct BUY as always, I want to make some alterations to 'make it mine' so to speak.  My first change was to lop one inch from the pattern, straight across the top, to get more of the magazine up for that fast draw look.  I left the bottom fold up at full length with the idea of rolling it down/inside at the top for the belt loop but I did run into a problem.  It went together really well and is a snug fit on the two inch belts I use BUT, without a tension device, it doesn't close up against the fold in mag divider as I had hoped.  In my mind the belt insertion should have snugged everything down but alas it did not happen.  It looks good and I have a couple of ways to make it work BUT none that I like.  I want that front to remain open for a small pattern and all of my ideas so far either require a concho or such on the front or complicated fixes.  If I get some time today I will do a kwik photo or two of the first proto and post to illustrate my miseries.  

Outrider, I live in California, and it has to do with not having an internal safety.  The Department of Justice has a list of Handguns that are legal in California, and it is not on the list.  SImilar guns are, but that model is not.  Now, if anybody here has contrary info, I would like ot hear about it.

Will, I like them all, you're tooling is great.  I like the Three Person's the most far as looks.  I have a holster similar to #4 the military 1911 model I think but mine uses a wire hanger for canvas belts and a leather hanger for the wire loop for leather belts if you would like I would send it to you for comparisons.  While on this holster where did you get the swivel use at?  Now I really like #5 for carrying but would not consider it a pancake holster since it is folded and is fastened to the back piece somehow.  Now I wish I was as talented as you are.  I do not wish to get us reprimanded for taking about modern leather here.

I also, have a leather pouch similar to what you are describing for the period mag pouch if you would like for me to send it I can.

Nothing personal...but I think California is really going (or is already gone) to the pits....I can't believe some of the garbage they make you go through....

Hey Blackey,

The swivel comes from the early cavalry holsters of 1911-1912.  It isn't a copy of the early holsters because I wanted a pattern folks could make without buying specialty hardware.  For that reason, I've avoided using wire loops or lift-a-dot post snaps.  It wouldn't be difficult for someone to modify the belt loop to go around a wire hanger.  Then you would have something that looks just like a photo in a collectors gallery of an early "civilian purchase" that was used in WWI.

I haven't started on the mag pouches yet, but will soon.  I don't need any patterns for those.  What I come up with will be more along the lines of the early leather military pouches, but without the military hardware.  They will be easily modified for those who wish to do the competitive "thing".

Thanks everyone for your kind offers of help, your encouragement, and feedback.  They have all helped to shape the direction of this pattern pack.

Will

Will,
Got my box back today. Thank YOU!!!!
DM

Will, I understand that is where the idea came from my intent was where does one purchase the swivel sorry for the confusion.

     Outrider, you're absolutely right, I'm born and raised here in California, and it's gone to the dogs, I can't wait to get out of here, hopefully by next years if I'm lucky


          tEN wOLVES   

Will,

Got my box today...much appreciated but not necessary.  Thank you..   If time allows and the weather is good we might get a chance to see you during our upcoming trip to Iowa in December

Hey Blackey,

I didn't do an internet search to look for the swivels.  What I did was skive down both the front and the back of the leather sewn to the pouch, where it swivels.  Then, I took a 1" round punch and punched out 1" disks.  I punched those in the center with a round punch that would allow a #9 copper rivet to swing freely.

I used a 1" #9 copper rivet, passed it through one 1" leather washer, through the front of the belt loop, through the leather sewn to the pouch, through the back of the belt loop, and through a 1" leather washer.  With the thickness of the leather, the post of the rivet doesn't need to be trimmed.

I peened-down the post over the copper burr, but not so tight it wouldn't swing.

With the rivet running through the belt loop on both sides of the holster leather, it shouldn't tear out near as fast as the military swivels that have the holsters attached at the outside of the wire hanger leathers.

Not militarily correct, but it is simple and gets the job done.

Hey Outrider,

If I thought it was necessary, I probably wouldn't have done it.  I just appreciate your efforts and wanted you to know.

Will

Will,

Appreciate the friendship

Ten Wolves...there's lots of roomhere in Tenn.   come on down