Quote from: Black River Smith on December 16, 2024, 09:21:31 AMStacking is what you do, with these.  Combine them to just slide in the space gentle.

Good to know, obviously I have not used these before.

In the interest of some Levity and lighter mood..
I paraphrase a rather famous movie quote...

"Imagine you're a deer. You're prancing along, you get thirsty, you spot a little brook, you put your little deer lips down to the cool clear water... BAM! A "F'ing bullet rips off part of your head! Your brains are laying on the ground in little bloody pieces! Now I ask ya. Would you give a "F"  what kind of pants bullet the son of a bitch who shot you was wearing using?

Stacking is what you do, with these.  Combine them to just slide in the space gentle.

Quote from: bear tooth billy on December 09, 2024, 09:02:34 AMThe funny thing is in the law it reads, straight wall 1.75" max. The next
paragraph allows 45/70 which is 2.1".  When questioned about that they said
 the 45/70 was grandfathered in as a pistol caliber??? I wonder how many
of whoever came with that idea has shot a 45/70 pistol "once". I said I could
come up with documentation of over 200,000 44/40 pistols, didn't matter it's
still a bottleneck. 

                        BTB

Interestingly, but probably not surprising, I have a 45-70 revolver. It's a BFR from Magnum Research. It is basically a Super Blackhawk with a stretched frame and 5 shot cylinder. I have shot it with full black powder loads. With oversized grips, it was not bad at all. I'd rather shoot it than a 44 magnum revolver. It has a lot of mass.

Quote from: 45 Dragoon on December 15, 2024, 10:39:11 AMPlanets must have aligned so y'all did the deal!! 

Typically carry a Taurus .38spl and for church service (hey slim).
Rest of the time I'm home with um every where! Usually a Remington in .45C or a Dragoon or ROA also in 45C  .  .  .

Mike

Taurus up'ed their game several years ago. I had purchased a Model 85 38 spcl. revolver
as road hazard toolbox gun for my wife's SUV. some years ago.
It was after Bangor Punta holding company dual ownership of both S&W & Taurus.
 The 85 is and has been trouble free.
Then earlier this year, I took a Taurus 605 Poly Protector in a partial trade.

I figured it for trading fodder down the road a bit... however, I have decided it will be the road hazard toolbox gun in my SUV. Though it is a .357 Mag, it's some snappy with magnums so its diet is
38 Wadcutters, and it shoots very well.
I sill pocket carry a Smith 642, but the Taurus is a neat lite gun and @ 1/2 the price of the Ruger LCR.
Perfect in Stainless/Ploy so rust is not an issue.
I opted to retain the longer grips, but it does come with a shorter CCW grip included.
CCW was not my planned carry for this revolver.

Quote from: Black River Smith on December 15, 2024, 08:41:28 PMYou need to get a set of feeler gauges for those types of measurements you are talking about (base to cylinder face; rear base to recoil shield; cylinder face to barrel).  A caliber is too large for these tight measurements.  Or I even have a machinist depth caliber tool for a different look at cylinder spacings(bushing to frame and rachet to cylinder face) and base thickness and setback.

But definitely a feel gauge with rectangular blades.

I just ordered three different sets of feeler gauges, they are due for delivery late this evening.  I'll update when they arrive.  May have to stack some together to get a measurement though, they are thinner than I would have liked.

You need to get a set of feeler gauges for those types of measurements you are talking about (base to cylinder face; rear base to recoil shield; cylinder face to barrel).  A caliber is too large for these tight measurements.  Or I even have a machinist depth caliber tool for a different look at cylinder spacings(bushing to frame and rachet to cylinder face) and base thickness and setback.

But definitely a feel gauge with rectangular blades.

Quote from: Abilene on December 13, 2024, 06:27:24 PMAre hatters even still using beaver or is it nutria now?

Absolutely, I just got a new 100X pure beaver a couple years ago. Custom hatter is the only way I know to get one though and grab your wallet.

Quote from: Black River Smith on December 15, 2024, 04:27:57 PMI intended to stay of this issue but like others have stated Never, Never dryfire continuously without snapcaps to cushion the blows.  I do not know how new you are to any of what you have been questioning of late on the forums but I would suggest you start using the search function available and 'read, read' as much as you can.  It 'will' help you in the future from more costly mistakes with firearms handling and all associated accessories.  If this comment is off base and you do have years of experience then I -- 'Apologize', I know accidents can and do happen to us all.

It is well know to most with experience, that the bottle-neck cartridges (44-40, 38-40 and 32-20) can have shoulder issue between old and new manufactured firearms and even the reloading equipment, that we use.  Even with the manufactured ammo that is available.  So, that being said search on here about 'sized brass not fitting in my cylinders or rifles'.  If you do, you will find that some people have to find the correct reloading dies to properly fit the brass to their chambers or even grind sizing dies to push the shoulder back some.

This leads to my next suggestion for you to check with this issue of yours.  Take your cylinder out of the revolver and insert a shell from your bought ammo into each and every chamber (the same shell in each cylinder, you may want to do this with each and every shell) to make certain that shells full seat and lays against the face of the cylinder.  You may find that one chamber is cut short or that your store bought shells need the shoulders pushed back for you chambers.

You did buy what is considered, a very well made firearm/cowboy revolver.  Truly sorry you are having these problems when trying to get started up.

I have been a shooter for years, but only modern stuff and milsurp, I'm totally new to cowboy action stuff.

I have tested the chambers as you suggested and the rounds drop in fine and I detect no gap between rim and cylinder.  I tried double checking that with some digital calipers but got inconsistent results, meaning I would get a different result each time I measured, without moving anything, of between 0.057 and 0.068, measured from the cylinder face to the top of the rim.  But again, if I retook the same measurement of the same cartridge in the same chamber again I would get a different result, but always within that range.  I should point out though that my calipers are the cheapest I could get and keep randomly restarting and resetting zero (probably because the battery door is missing and the battery is being held in by a rubber band and a piece of cardboard).  However the case rims measure a consistent 0.059-0.060, using the jaws of the caliper vs the back end.

Either a Colt Mustang .380 ltwt or a Scandium ltwt J Frame in .38 spcl. I pocket carry them. I use Hornady Critical Defense ammo.