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CAS TOPICS => The Darksider's Den => Topic started by: Fox Creek Kid on January 22, 2016, 12:48:41 PM

Title: NOE .44 Bullet
Post by: Fox Creek Kid on January 22, 2016, 12:48:41 PM
Few know that there is cast bullet manuf. that sells this wonderful bullet, albeit not lubed with BP lube. He does however sell them unsized & unlubed for the same price for those who do their own sizing & lubing, but don't cast.


http://www.mattsbullets.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=70&products_id=275&zenid=dee3518f636595d82ea88ce3cd303b2b

Here's one 'naked':

(http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo129/Boge_1960/Firearms/44-40BlackPowderbullets-1_zpsvlkyaxii.jpg) (http://s368.photobucket.com/user/Boge_1960/media/Firearms/44-40BlackPowderbullets-1_zpsvlkyaxii.jpg.html)

Title: Re: NOE .44 Bullet
Post by: john boy on January 22, 2016, 02:06:15 PM
The 413-215C was designed by John Kort - 44wcf
http://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_detail.php?bullet=43-215C-D.png

The 43-210B was designed by Fairshake
http://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_detail.php?bullet=43-210B-D.png

Both good bullets.  I shot the 43-215C in my JM Marlin Ballard (org chambering 44WCF)
Title: Re: NOE .44 Bullet
Post by: Fox Creek Kid on January 22, 2016, 02:41:13 PM
So JB, if I recall the NOE was the result of a 'group think' on the Cast Boolit Forum if I recall. I bought my mould as a result of reading that thread back in late Summer 2011.
Title: Re: NOE .44 Bullet
Post by: Cholla Hill Tirador on January 22, 2016, 03:48:52 PM
 I just cast another 300 of the NOE bullet from my mould last night. What a fine piece of equipment!

  FWIW, Tom at Accuratemolds.Com will make a mould to your specifications at no additional charge. I've noticed that in his line of bullets in .40, .44 and .45 caliber there are multiple choices of the designs with the large lube grooves. I have one of his 4-cavity moulds and the quality is stunning.

  CHT
Title: Re: NOE .44 Bullet
Post by: john boy on January 22, 2016, 04:43:12 PM
 
QuoteFWIW, Tom at Accurate molds.Com will make a mould to your specifications at no additional charge.
Tis a fact. These are 2 rare Ideal Schuetzen molds that were designed by Doc Hudson that he put in the catalog from the bullets I sent Tom

319273 (32-185H) ... http://accuratemolds.com/bullet_detail.php?bullet=32-185H-D.png
375272 (38-308H) ... http://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_detail.php?bullet=38-308H-D.png

... And for $118, I ordered a single aluminum mold cut for both bullets!  :)  One can change the diameters on any Accurate mold to fit the groove dimensions of your rifle. I have a tight 378 groove on my 38-55, so reduced the 2 bottom band diameters
Title: Re: NOE .44 Bullet
Post by: Cliff Fendley on January 22, 2016, 10:41:45 PM
Just checked out the NOE website. Nice looking moulds. I am very pleased with my accurate 215C though.
Title: Re: NOE .44 Bullet
Post by: w44wcf on January 23, 2016, 08:43:43 AM
Quote from: Fox Creek Kid on January 22, 2016, 02:41:13 PM
So JB, if I recall the NOE was the result of a 'group think' on the Cast Boolit Forum if I recall. I bought my mould as a result of reading that thread back in late Summer 2011.

FCK,
Back then the idea was to replicate the profile of the original .44-40 bullet but with additional lube capacity to run with Goex and similar, more fouling powders.  I had done some testing to determine the ideal amount of lube required to prevent foul out in a 24" barrel.  Thus the NOE bullet was created.  

As it turned out, the nose profile did not quite follow the profile of the original .44-40 bullet as one can see in the pic.  I decided to contact Tom at Accurate Molds and the 43-215C was born. It follows the profile of the original 44-40 bullet and holds the ideal lube capacity according to my testing.

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/w30wcf/Collector%20Cartridges/764a9324-e776-488a-a06f-ede185fde6c0.jpg)

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/w30wcf/Collector%20Cartridges/44-40BlackPowderbullets-1.jpg)

w44wcf  
Title: Re: NOE .44 Bullet
Post by: Dick Dastardly on January 23, 2016, 08:59:05 AM
The "Big Lube" bullet shown is out of date.  The current profile of the Mav Dutchman has a deeper crimp groove and a longer nose.

DD-MDA
Title: Re: NOE .44 Bullet
Post by: john boy on January 23, 2016, 08:33:15 PM
Dick - and a shortened lube groove?
Title: Re: NOE .44 Bullet
Post by: Dick Dastardly on January 24, 2016, 07:17:27 PM
Exactly as drafted.

DD-MDA