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Title: BP for a new caliber.
Post by: paledun on July 24, 2015, 09:41:48 PM
I am considering adding a bit of fun to a local IDPA match by using some Goex for my 45 ACP loads.  Since the tolerances of my 1911 seem a bit closer than my 73 and Lightening, I would still think annealing the cases would seal the chamber as annealing does for my 45 Colts.  I would probably use a lube cookie and over-powder card as I do for the 45 Colt.  PB amount to allow for a bit of powder compression.  Before the "you have lost your mind" comments, anyone tried this possible combination in a 1911?  Paledun
Title: Re: BP for a new caliber.
Post by: Blackpowder Burn on July 24, 2015, 09:51:40 PM
I routinely shoot BP in my 1911.  Now, I have a 1911 (Colt) and a 1911A1 (Springfield) that I use, not super tight race guns.  That being said, a 220 grain RNFP cast from 20:1 and lubed with SPG over 18 grains of Olde Eynsford FFFg powder runs great - standard springs & no modifications to the gun.  I've fired 100 consecutive shots with either gun with zero malfunctions.  No case annealing, no lube cookies, just the powder and properly lubed bullet.

It does mess with peoples minds when I do this, which is a real hoot!  ;D
Title: Re: BP for a new caliber.
Post by: Bruce W Sims on July 25, 2015, 06:25:54 AM
Any special clean-up problems afterwards? Just wondering....

Best Wishes,

Bruce
Title: Re: BP for a new caliber.
Post by: Blackpowder Burn on July 26, 2015, 07:21:04 AM
I just do it like all my other handguns - disassemble and run it through an ultrasonic cleaner bath.
Title: Re: BP for a new caliber.
Post by: Dick Dastardly on July 26, 2015, 10:37:23 AM
Lube is your friend.  One bullet design that has worked in 1911s is the DD-PUK Flat 45-210 RNFP Big LubeĀ®LLC.  It feeds very well in my friend's Kimber 1911.  This bullet also functions very well in my 45 Colt 1873 rifle.  It was designed for C&B black powder guns but it has found a home in many other 45 Cal. guns, both long and short.

DD-MDA
Title: Re: BP for a new caliber.
Post by: Bunk Stagnerg on July 27, 2015, 03:39:12 PM
sounds like a hoot .
Impractical Pistol Shooters are so serious about the game it would be fun to play with their minds.
If i had an IPSC  club that didn't shoot on the second Saturday, which is th same day my club the Darby Rough Regulators shoot, i would whup up a bunch of cartridges loaded with DuPont's finest gun powder and drive them all crazy.

Hd center
bunk
Title: Re: BP for a new caliber.
Post by: Blackpowder Burn on July 28, 2015, 07:01:06 AM
Yup, that's the bullet I've been loading......... ;D
Title: Re: BP for a new caliber.
Post by: Slowhand Bob on July 28, 2015, 09:27:39 AM
This just might be a job for 777, it offers a little extra boost while keeping the gun slick.  Except for the brass you should not have as much worry about corrosion.  I have a couple of bottles on hand to use for shotgun but have not used 777 yet so you are on your own!
Title: Re: BP for a new caliber.
Post by: Cliff Fendley on July 28, 2015, 11:39:40 AM
From my experience with 777 I don't know how it would perform in a 1911 but do know it leaves behind a dry hard crusty residue. It is much more trouble to clean than after shooting real black powder. Especially the good stuff like Swiss or Old E.

I have tried them all and can say for certain none of the subs and I mean NONE of them clean up any easier than real BP. That is a bunch of hype that got started by the sub makers a few years ago and still continues. I have personally tried it all and know from first hand experience.

I have wound up with some different sub powders from over the years and recently been giving it away and burning it up just to get rid of it and of all the subs I found the easiest cleanup behind APP.