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Title: An interesting site about Schofields.
Post by: RickB on February 21, 2012, 09:35:54 PM
Thought I would share this with the guys.

http://www.sam-hane.com/sass/schofield/
Title: Re: An interesting site about Schofields.
Post by: Danny Bear Claw on February 22, 2012, 02:46:06 AM
A wealth of Schofield information!  Thanks for posting it RickB.   8)
Title: Re: An interesting site about Schofields.
Post by: Forty Rod on February 22, 2012, 11:30:04 AM
I'd like to point out that the Laramie is NOT a Schofield, but a 3rd Model Russian.

I still wish someone would make a 1st Model Russian with the options of an 8" barrel and nickel plating.
Title: Re: An interesting site about Schofields.
Post by: Trailrider on February 22, 2012, 12:47:26 PM
Quote from: Forty Rod on February 22, 2012, 11:30:04 AM
I'd like to point out that the Laramie is NOT a Schofield, but a 3rd Model Russian.

I still wish someone would make a 1st Model Russian with the options of an 8" barrel and nickel plating.

Well, actually the Laramie is a New Model #3 Target, but with the rebounding hammer of the fixed-sight NM#3, which the Target model did NOT have.  IMHO, SASS' ruling out the Laramie because of the "adjustable' sight makes about as much sense as ruling out the driftable windage rifle rear sights because they are "adjustable"!  The Laramie's rear sight is NOT click-adjustable, and loosening the screws to slide the rear blade back and forth for windage is about as accurate as using a file on the notch of a fixed rear sight. Too bad they couldn't have just made the latch with the fixed rear sight, but since they are out of production altogether, I guess it's too bad all around.  Also would have liked to have seen the Laramie in .44-40, which was a legitimate chambering for a few of the original NM#3's
Title: Re: An interesting site about Schofields.
Post by: Wild_Willie on February 22, 2012, 01:23:58 PM
Driftwood cited this site over on the SASS wire: http://www.armchairgunshow.com/Mod3-info.html (http://www.armchairgunshow.com/Mod3-info.html)  It explains the 5 families of #3's better.  I have heard the Laramies described as Schofields too.

Looks like the Laramie's are New Model #3's technically!  Well OK then!  ;D

~Will
Title: Re: An interesting site about Schofields.
Post by: RickB on February 22, 2012, 06:16:46 PM
Really great site. Thanks Willie.

Just felt the need to share Dan. Glad you enjoyed it. That was my intention.
Title: Re: An interesting site about Schofields.
Post by: RickB on February 22, 2012, 06:19:29 PM
Quote from: Forty Rod on February 22, 2012, 11:30:04 AM
I'd like to point out that the Laramie is NOT a Schofield, but a 3rd Model Russian.

I still wish someone would make a 1st Model Russian with the options of an 8" barrel and nickel plating.

I wish someone would make the #3 American in. 45. I would buy one in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: An interesting site about Schofields.
Post by: Forty Rod on February 22, 2012, 08:16:05 PM
Quote from: Trailrider on February 22, 2012, 12:47:26 PM
Well, actually the Laramie is a New Model #3 Target, but with the rebounding hammer of the fixed-sight NM#3, which the Target model did NOT have.  IMHO, SASS' ruling out the Laramie because of the "adjustable' sight makes about as much sense as ruling out the driftable windage rifle rear sights because they are "adjustable"!  The Laramie's rear sight is NOT click-adjustable, and loosening the screws to slide the rear blade back and forth for windage is about as accurate as using a file on the notch of a fixed rear sight. Too bad they couldn't have just made the latch with the fixed rear sight, but since they are out of production altogether, I guess it's too bad all around.  Also would have liked to have seen the Laramie in .44-40, which was a legitimate chambering for a few of the original NM#3's

I stand corrected.  Thanks for setting me right on that.  The only S&W I'm interested in is the 1st Model Russian, so I've not kept up on the others.
Title: Re: An interesting site about Schofields.
Post by: Forty Rod on February 22, 2012, 08:21:52 PM
Quote from: Trailrider on February 22, 2012, 12:47:26 PM
Well, actually the Laramie is a New Model #3 Target, but with the rebounding hammer of the fixed-sight NM#3, which the Target model did NOT have.  IMHO, SASS' ruling out the Laramie because of the "adjustable' sight makes about as much sense as ruling out the driftable windage rifle rear sights because they are "adjustable"!  The Laramie's rear sight is NOT click-adjustable, and loosening the screws to slide the rear blade back and forth for windage is about as accurate as using a file on the notch of a fixed rear sight. Too bad they couldn't have just made the latch with the fixed rear sight, but since they are out of production altogether, I guess it's too bad all around.  Also would have liked to have seen the Laramie in .44-40, which was a legitimate chambering for a few of the original NM#3's

I stand corrected.  Thanks for setting me right on that.  The only S&W I'm interested in is the 1st Model Russian, so I've not kept up on the others.
Title: Re: An interesting site about Schofields.
Post by: Wild_Willie on February 22, 2012, 09:37:44 PM
I cannot take credit for that site link, that is all MR DRIFTWOOD JOHNSON!

  I learned something new too: I called my Laramie's Schofields, which is NOT TRUE.

  Well, I actually call them .45 LONG COLT Schofields, so I am all kinds of mixed up in errors!  ;)

~Will

Title: Re: An interesting site about Schofields.
Post by: Driftwood Johnson on February 23, 2012, 10:26:27 AM
Howdy

I always get a kick out of that bit about how the mounted soldier was supposed to be able to reload a Schofield with one hand while keeping one hand on the reins. Unloading is fine, you open the latch with your thumb and break the gun open by shoving the barrel against your leg, dumping all the empties in the process. But I'll be consarned if I know how a mounted trooper could keep the reins in one hand, hold the gun with another, and pop cartridges into the cylinder at the same time. Maybe a really good rider could hold the pistol with the same hand that held the reins while the other hand reloaded. Not me, I ain't that good a rider that I would even try if the horse was trotting or galloping. Maybe that's just me.

Regarding the American Model, the Russian Model, the Schofield Model, the New Model Number Three, and the Double Action 44, just remember, they were all built on the #3 frame. All Schofields are #3s, but not all #3s are Schofields. And it was not like today when all N frames and all K frames are almost identical. In Top Break days, #3 denoted the size of the frame, but there were distinct differences in all five of the #3 models, as can be seen on the page I referred to.