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Title: Worman & Garavaglia's Book: Firearms of the American West, Volume I: 1803-1865
Post by: Jake MacReedy on August 30, 2011, 10:56:12 PM
Pards,

This is a "must read" for anyone really interested in the firearms of the period in which we're all interested.  Here's the link to Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/Firearms-American-West-1803-1865-v/dp/0870814834/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1314762136&sr=1-3

I am fortunate enough to already own both volumes of this great set.  Messrs. Worman and Garavaglia did an excellent job of tracking down primary sources in establishing whether a firearm was in use or not by folks in the West.  Once I am home the second week of September, I will be able to reference this Volume and will be more than happy to provide information to anyone interested in whether a particular firearm was in use or not.

Regards,
Jake
Title: Re: Worman & Garavaglia's Book: Firearms of the American West, Volume I: 1803-1865
Post by: TwoWalks Baldridge on August 30, 2011, 11:25:22 PM
Thanks Jake, both for the link to the book and the offer to provide information.
Title: Re: Worman & Garavaglia's Book: Firearms of the American West, Volume I: 1803-1865
Post by: ChuckBurrows on August 31, 2011, 02:23:38 AM
I hearily agree Jake - they are both usually my first go to books due in large part to their emphasis on using primary documentation. I would also recommend Worman's newer book "Gunsmoke and Saddle Leather" - it is not just a rewrite of the earlier book but has much additional and more current info on the period firearms - plus some great pics not in the earlier books.
http://www.amazon.com/Gunsmoke-Saddle-Leather-Firearms-Nineteenth-Century/dp/0826335934

None of the three are really cheap but they are all three such excellent resources I would recommend them to those who can get them - still like ANY resource they should be cross refernced as much as possible......
Title: Re: Worman & Garavaglia's Book: Firearms of the American West, Volume I: 1803-1865
Post by: Colt Fanning on August 31, 2011, 08:36:56 AM
Hi,
Would you look up when henrys and spencers were first offered to the public?  I think it was before 1860.
Regards
Colt
Title: Re: Worman & Garavaglia's Book: Firearms of the American West, Volume I: 1803-1865
Post by: Jake MacReedy on August 31, 2011, 12:15:42 PM
Colt, I will be more than happy to do that, sir!  But it will be after the 12th of September before I can do so, as I am sitting in lovely Northern Iraq right now!  I will definitely do it once I am home.

Best Regards,
Jake
Title: Re: Worman & Garavaglia's Book: Firearms of the American West, Volume I: 1803-1865
Post by: ChuckBurrows on August 31, 2011, 05:03:12 PM
Quote from: Colt Fanning on August 31, 2011, 08:36:56 AM
Hi,
Would you look up when henrys and spencers were first offered to the public?  I think it was before 1860.
Regards
Colt

After a quick persual on this subject last night and according to the book they do not show up as being offered to the public until 1862-1863 for the Henry and 1863-1864 for the Spencer. Both show up in retail offerings from several areas of the West including California. If you want exact dates I will have to go back to the book. So yes they were available but not until the late part of the period and then in apparently limited quantites since most were going to the military at the time.
Title: Re: Worman & Garavaglia's Book: Firearms of the American West, Volume I: 1803-1865
Post by: Jake MacReedy on August 31, 2011, 05:30:31 PM
Thanks for providing the answer for Colt, Chuck!  I appreciate it, sir!

Regards,
Jake
Title: Re: Worman & Garavaglia's Book: Firearms of the American West, Volume I: 1803-1865
Post by: ChuckBurrows on September 01, 2011, 12:16:30 AM
You're welcome Jake and watch yore top knot over there in Injun country.......... ;)

I re-checked the dates and they are essentially correct per that source and two others I cross referneced to - also both the Spencer and Henry were not even patented until 1860 so there is no way either could be available pre-1860. The Volcanic lever action that is the Henry's granpappy was available prior to 1860.

There were other breech loaders available though: the Browning Harmonica, the Sharps, the Joslyn, the Starr, the Ballard are just a few
Title: Re: Worman & Garavaglia's Book: Firearms of the American West, Volume I: 1803-1865
Post by: Oregon Bill on November 16, 2011, 05:52:03 PM
Whoa, Chuck: Thanks for the heads up on Worman's newer book. I have both volumes of W and G and would not be without them!