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Title: Period Correct Chairs
Post by: Okefinokee Outlaw on July 21, 2011, 07:04:09 PM
Where might one locate folding canvas chairs?
Title: Re: Period Correct Chairs
Post by: River City John on July 21, 2011, 07:10:05 PM
www.foldingchairshop.com/all-folding-chairs.htm

www.njsekela.com/OSCommerce/catalog/index.php?cPath=23&osCsid=ece5c08f39bc4b5993d29a6a47f0dcce

I'll look for some other sources later.

RCJ
Title: Re: Period Correct Chairs
Post by: Cherokee Reb on July 21, 2011, 07:11:07 PM
Panther Primitive sells some great fold up oak and canvas chairs. Several of the Civil War suttlers and Crazy Crow also have them available.

Check locally for groups who hold 18th and 19th century trade fairs. Often local reenactor / craftsmen will have them for sale.

The wooden directors chairs with a beige/white seat and back is also close to ones shown in late CW era pics of officers.

Hope that helped.

CR
Title: Re: Period Correct Chairs
Post by: Okefinokee Outlaw on July 21, 2011, 08:59:59 PM
Thanks folks.  Great stuff.
Title: Re: Period Correct Chairs
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 21, 2011, 09:41:37 PM
Howdy Pards
Pier 1 has the folding directors chairs . I purchased one to have at the Nationals . Hope to use it next year . ???
Title: Re: Period Correct Chairs
Post by: RickB on July 21, 2011, 09:51:02 PM
Here is a link to the Pier one chairs. Are these considered period correct?

http://www.pier1.com/Catalog/Furniture/tabid/981/CategoryId/158/ProductId/6211/Default.aspx?ProductName=Black-Director's-Chair

If so i'll have to buy a couple. This price is much better than most.
Title: Re: Period Correct Chairs
Post by: Deadeye Don on July 22, 2011, 05:52:13 AM
Here is a really nice folding camp chair.  A bit pricey, but would look great in a camp and would probably last a long time.
http://www.fcsutler.com/fcblankhavers.asp
Title: Re: Period Correct Chairs
Post by: Cherokee Reb on July 22, 2011, 06:17:55 AM
If you do an Internet search for reenactor folding chairs, you will find lots of pics of CW era chairs that look like the modern directors chairs. While not 100% correct, it would pass muster at anything we do. You'll probably see one in my camp next year... And you know how I am ;D

Unless I can talk Ottawa Creek into throwing up a couple SW style wickiups next year.....

CR
Title: Re: Period Correct Chairs
Post by: TwoWalks Baldridge on July 22, 2011, 07:07:46 AM
Quote from: RickB on July 21, 2011, 09:51:02 PM
Here is a link to the Pier one chairs. Are these considered period correct?

http://www.pier1.com/Catalog/Furniture/tabid/981/CategoryId/158/ProductId/6211/Default.aspx?ProductName=Black-Director's-Chair

If so i'll have to buy a couple. This price is much better than most.


They also have it in natural which I think would be better than the black.
http://www.pier1.com/Catalog/Furniture/tabid/981/CategoryId/158/ProductId/3042/Default.aspx?ProductName=Director%27s-Chair-Barstool--Natural (http://www.pier1.com/Catalog/Furniture/tabid/981/CategoryId/158/ProductId/3042/Default.aspx?ProductName=Director%27s-Chair-Barstool--Natural)
Title: Re: Period Correct Chairs
Post by: Tascosa Joe on July 22, 2011, 07:23:16 AM
I bought 3 directors chairs a couple years ago.  2 from World Market and 1 from Pier 1.  Pier 1 is the better quality.  All were either white or off white in color.  You can take the plastic feet off of the chairs and change the screws from philips head to common head and have a fairly authentic chair.  We had a huge thread on chairs 2 years back.  I think it was in the Chambers Forum.  Lots of different chairs.
Title: Re: Period Correct Chairs
Post by: Tascosa Joe on July 22, 2011, 07:53:31 AM
OO:
Here is the link to one of the previous threads that has a lot of good information.

http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,26859.0.html

T-Joe
Title: Re: Period Correct Chairs
Post by: Pancho Peacemaker on July 22, 2011, 08:34:35 AM
I've bought some chairs from here:

http://www.ushist.com/american_civil-war_camp_equipment_f.shtml (http://www.ushist.com/american_civil-war_camp_equipment_f.shtml)

I believe all their gear is made by Panther Primitives.

Good quality.
Title: Re: Period Correct Chairs
Post by: River City John on July 22, 2011, 09:52:28 AM
https://picasaweb.google.com/Booker1942/1896AcmeChairCompanyFoldingChairsForChurchHallUndertakersUse

Above is a link to an Acme 1896 folding chair catalog. In particular, notice photo # 18, catalog page 16 of chair No. 42, still found all over in second hand shops, etc. as many churches, halls, schools and lodges had similar chairs in use even up through the 50's.
Yuma City and I bought a couple on the way down to the KVC Two-gun shoot for $15.00 bucks each on a chance stop at a roadside Antiques Mall. If your backside is sensitive, a seat and a back cushion could be added.

RCJ
Title: Re: Period Correct Chairs
Post by: Forty Rod on July 22, 2011, 10:22:14 AM
You might try Dixie Gun Works and Cumberland General Store.

Okay, strike CGS.  They don't seem to have much anymore.

Title: Re: Period Correct Chairs
Post by: Tjackstephens on July 22, 2011, 10:24:28 AM
I have a couple wooden folding chairs that was in my wife's family, they are correct. But my pride is two Civil War canvas easy chairs. My friend Jim Johnson (Fencepost) a cowboy shooter and Civil War reenactor made. He made them from a picture of a camp of Civil War officers. Last year (2010) they were a big hit at the tent city during the National. Several cowboys took measurements and drawings. They are very good to relax in.  Tj  
Title: Re: Period Correct Chairs
Post by: Delmonico on July 22, 2011, 11:46:58 AM
Here is part of our camp at RCS this year, the folks in it repersented a slight differance in time periods, the blacksmith and the ropemaker and I do post Civil War, add a Civil War renactor and a buckskinner and toss our gear around and it made a nice picture:

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/camp%20gear/CopyofPICT0908.jpg)

All the cok gear except the fire irions are mine, the haversack and that chair are Jared's the Civil War guy.  The camp stool is mine, Ron the buckskinner gave it to me, some friend of his makes them.  It's great for me when I have to keep an eye on something cooking at the fire. 

The big wooden box belongs to the blacksmith, it don't contain an ice chest, it is one.  The tent and the rest of the furnature belongs to Ron the buckskinner, the jars are more modern, Liz the rope maker was selling apple butter and jams and them and the stainless bowls containg biscuits I baked are for samples for her to sell.  Some of my stuff is under the tarp, I can see someone must have made a grocery run and it isn't put away yet when I took this picture.

This is a demo for tourist types and we have several hundred wander through.

This picture looks pretty good, except we have someone who left a water bottle and we have so many around, we have to borrow some tables from the park, also Liz's propane stove is there, in the future we want to eliminate it, but she makes apple butter on site as a demo and the open fire is to hard to control for that with her making rope also, we all tend it and stir it.  When I get a better pickup and a trailer I'll bring my cook stove. 

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/RCS%202011/PICT0911.jpg)

The peach can on the ground is for butts if anyone needs it.  The kid is a new addition and they borrowed some stuff for him, he'll get better stuff in the future, but at least we have added a young fella.

Also this one of me working:

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/RCS%202011/R1-07746-0010.jpg)

The cupboard a friend made about 10 years ago it's served well and don't look bad but is at the end of it's life, the new one I'll going to make with out the plywood, but the first one was a quick build to try it and see how we liked it.

The flour in the paper bag is OK into the 1880's when prepackaged started to come on the market to compete with bulk.  I'm not sure I like the pattern on the blue and white bag the extra dish towels are in, but the material was free.

What we did do was to give good lessons in history to several hundred tourist types that weekend.  I take several 100 pictures each trip and look them over and use those to correct what I don't like.  The wife and I are moving to a house we bought in a week, I'll have a 1 stall garage to spread the camp gear out and get stuff sorted out better.  There is perhaps a half a pick-up load that has been bought at thrift stores and garage sales that hasen't even been sorted through yet.  This dang thing has almost become a monster. ;D
Title: Re: Period Correct Chairs
Post by: Texas Lawdog on July 22, 2011, 12:08:33 PM
I checked out the chair that Dixie Gun Works has for sale. It states that it is not recommended for folks over 250 lbs. I need a real heavy duty one rated for over 300 lbs.
Title: Re: Period Correct Chairs
Post by: Forty Rod on July 22, 2011, 12:22:59 PM
Try to buy a step ladder, step stool, or much of anything else rated over 250 pounds.  I've been fighting that for years.
Title: Re: Period Correct Chairs
Post by: Delmonico on July 22, 2011, 12:49:40 PM
Here is some camp furniture from the Brady collection:

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/camp%20gear/4a39470r.jpg)

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/camp%20gear/03960r.jpg)

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/camp%20gear/00815r.jpg)

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/camp%20gear/00725r.jpg)

Should be plenty more if anyone wants to search:

http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/cwphtml/cwphome.html
Title: Re: Period Correct Chairs
Post by: Major 2 on July 22, 2011, 01:07:02 PM
I know the question was Folding chairs  :-\

Which are inherently weaker...   Jim & 40Rod

so how about this

http://compare.ebay.com/like/230621359928?ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar
Title: Re: Period Correct Chairs
Post by: Cherokee Reb on July 22, 2011, 01:36:46 PM
These are the ultimate folding camp chairs. I fondled one a couple years age . They are well made and stout.

http://jas-townsend.com/product_info.php?cPath=51&products_id=850

Wish I could justify owning a couple.

CR
Title: Re: Period Correct Chairs
Post by: Books OToole on July 22, 2011, 03:05:27 PM
Since I am not in a positon to post pictures, I am glad that Delmonico did.  The slat chairs in the lower left of his first two pictures ARE NOT PERIOD CORRECT.  They (and cell phones) are the biggist anathemas to a quality PC camp.

I now return you to your regular broadcast.


Books
Title: Re: Period Correct Chairs
Post by: Delmonico on July 22, 2011, 03:13:36 PM
Quote from: Books OToole on July 22, 2011, 03:05:27 PM
Since I am not in a positon to post pictures, I am glad that Delmonico did.  The slat chairs in the lower left of his first two pictures ARE NOT PERIOD CORRECT.  They (and cell phones) are the biggist anathemas to a quality PC camp.

I now return you to your regular broadcast.


Books

I will add they are not my chairs, I was never sure about them. 

I know I may be called a stitch counter or button NAZI, but one thing I keep seeing in pictures bugs me worse than chairs that are at least made of wood, that is the unbuttoned collars on men's shirts.  Men did not go out in public that way.  The very few pictures that show it in the period I've seen are either pictures of blacksmiths in their shop or cowboys branding in a corral.  Men working away from the general public.  You can be pretty sure those were buttoned back up away from work and in public.  Yet how many times have you seen it in pictures folks post?

I'm not picking on anyone, but if things are going to be cleaned up then everything needs to be.

Title: Re: Period Correct Chairs
Post by: River City John on July 22, 2011, 03:28:48 PM
Quote from: Cherokee Reb on July 22, 2011, 01:36:46 PM
These are the ultimate folding camp chairs. I fondled one a couple years age . They are well made and stout.

http://jas-townsend.com/product_info.php?cPath=51&products_id=850

Wish I could justify owning a couple.

CR

I've looked at them for a long time, Reb, too.
My brother is a carpentry/joiner hobbyist. He built my dove-tailed camp box that I lined with styrofoam. I know I could get him interested in building one just for the fun of it if I paid for materials. It's just getting him to find the time. He puts more work into his yard each week than I do in a month. But he also has the landscaped yard I would love to have . . .

Interesting thing about British camp gear. This site is nice for interesting stuff, but way too expensive.
http://www.antiques-in-england.com/
Title: Re: Period Correct Chairs
Post by: Cash Creek on July 22, 2011, 03:47:02 PM
Delmonico:
My wife and I where looking at some NCOWS pictures last night and I said something about the guys having their shirts button all the way up..now I understand, I was one who had my shirt open..  :-[ but from now on I will button it up and be a proper cowboy..  ;D thanks for posting that, I learn something today.CC
You can teach a OLD dog new tricks..
Title: Re: Period Correct Chairs
Post by: Delmonico on July 22, 2011, 04:57:35 PM
Quote from: Cash Creek on July 22, 2011, 03:47:02 PM
Delmonico:
My wife and I where looking at some NCOWS pictures last night and I said something about the guys having their shirts button all the way up..now I understand, I was one who had my shirt open..  :-[ but from now on I will button it up and be a proper cowboy..  ;D thanks for posting that, I learn something today.CC
You can teach a OLD dog new tricks..

There is so much that it's hard to learn it all.  I've noticed it for years, but since the talk today is getting better I thought it was a good time to toss it out.  Although since there is no reason for anyone to look modern underwear is fine with me, we'll just use the don't ask don't tell policy on that one. ;D
Title: Re: Period Correct Chairs
Post by: Tjackstephens on July 23, 2011, 10:18:07 AM
Yes, checking a pards underwear could be a problem!!  Tj  ;D  ::)  :o  ;D
Title: Re: Period Correct Chairs
Post by: River City John on July 23, 2011, 10:27:11 AM
Quote from: Tjackstephens on July 23, 2011, 10:18:07 AM
Yes, checking a pards underwear could be a problem!!  Tj  ;D  ::)  :o  ;D

Although seeing the shooting outfits some women choose in this sport, you'd think they were, in Genl. Butler's words, " . . .women of the town out plying their trade . . ." ;)

(Now don't jump all over me, folks. I know many have no objection to checking that underwear out . . . ;D)

RCJ
Title: Re: Period Correct Chairs
Post by: bowiemaker on July 23, 2011, 05:29:46 PM
Mingo you got to me. I went to Pier One and bought a directors chair. It was $49.95 but that does not include the seat or back which are sold separately for $14. It looks pretty good. I'm sure it's not 100% accurate but it 's a lot closer than my nylon pop-up chair.
Title: Re: Period Correct Chairs
Post by: TwoWalks Baldridge on July 23, 2011, 05:34:57 PM
Quote from: Delmonico on July 22, 2011, 04:57:35 PM
we'll just use the don't ask don't tell policy on that one. ;D

Only for another 60 days and then they can wear any dang underwear they choose.
Title: Re: Period Correct Chairs
Post by: Cherokee Reb on July 23, 2011, 06:06:37 PM
Quote from: River City John on July 23, 2011, 10:27:11 AM
Although seeing the shooting outfits some women choose in this sport, you'd think they were, in Genl. Butler's words, " . . .women of the town out plying their trade . . ." ;)

(Now don't jump all over me, folks. I know many have no objection to checking that underwear out . . . ;D)

RCJ

Off the chair topic but so true. I don't think even most soiled doves would be out in public dressed like some of the ..umm..ladies and definately not packing iron.

CR
Title: Re: Period Correct Chairs
Post by: Cherokee Reb on July 23, 2011, 06:10:41 PM
Quote from: bowiemaker on July 23, 2011, 05:29:46 PM
Mingo you got to me. I went to Pier One and bought a directors chair. It was $49.95 but that does not include the seat or back whech are sold separately for $14. It looks pretty good. I'm sure it's not 100% accuarte but it 's a lot closer than my nylon pop-up chair.

You're my new hero :D...just need to eliminate one piece of nylon at a time.

CR
Title: Re: Period Correct Chairs
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 25, 2011, 12:41:41 PM
Howdy Pards
I plan on sporting my chair at the Eastern Regional . So bring your chair (pc ) and come on down . ;) ;) ;D