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Title: Conversion Cylinder for 1862 Uberti
Post by: Cookie on December 15, 2010, 03:08:11 PM
I love my '63 Remington conversions, but I'm also looking for something a bit more compact from the same era.

I'm interested in getting an Uberti "1862 Pocket Police". But, I would also want a conversion cylinder in .38 Long Colt.

It appears the 1862's cylinder is shaped differently than the 1851/1861's cylinder so I doubt they're interchangeable. And so far I haven't found anything specifically for the 1862.

Does such a thing exist?

Title: Re: Conversion Cylinder for 1862 Uberti
Post by: Montana Slim on December 15, 2010, 05:31:00 PM
Not aware of any off-the self kits for the Uberti Colt .36 pockets.

Hard to get more compact than the 1863 Remington in .32 (I have one), but I do love my Colts.

regards,
Slim
Title: Re: Conversion Cylinder for 1862 Uberti
Post by: Pettifogger on December 15, 2010, 05:45:48 PM
Will never be a conversion for the 62 Pocket Police.  The cylinder walls are to thin for any modern cartridge.
Title: Re: Conversion Cylinder for 1862 Uberti
Post by: pony express on December 15, 2010, 08:06:17 PM
You could use the Cabelas "so called" 1862 police, which is really just a short barrelled 1861 colt replica, but with a shorter barrell and a fluted cylinder. Regular 1851 Navy cylinder will fit those.(I believe these are made by Pietta)

Not as compact as a true 1862, but still smaller than the Remington.
Title: Re: Conversion Cylinder for 1862 Uberti
Post by: Cookie on December 16, 2010, 10:22:09 AM
@Slim - are you talking about this (http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Black-Powder/Pistols%7C/pc/104792580/c/104701680/sc/104503680/New-Model-Pocket-31-Caliber-Steel-Frame-Pistol/705329.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fshooting-black-powder-pistols%2F_%2FN-1100201%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_104503680)?

I love that gun, but I don't know of anyone making a conversion cylinder for it either. In any case, I'm not sure that would work for a main match revolver, it seems a bit too compact. The Colt Police seems a better compromise.


@Pettifigger - Darn it. But good to know. Thanks.


@Express - Wow, I had seen that one, but didn't pick up on that detail. You're right - totally different cylinders. Well, a short barrel Navy is basically what I want, and Kirst makes a gated cylinder in .38 LC, so looks like I have a winner! Thanks!

Title: Re: Conversion Cylinder for 1862 Uberti
Post by: Adirondack Jack on December 22, 2010, 11:32:59 AM
Yep, I like the 62 a bunch, but with the stepped cyclinder it is very compact, built as a 36 on a 31 frame, so there ain't room for a proper conversion.
Title: Re: Conversion Cylinder for 1862 Uberti
Post by: Waddie Bill on December 22, 2010, 01:19:24 PM
I've followed this topic for some time;several replies state that conversions are not possible due to thin cyclinder walls.
Many origional 62"s Police and Navy models were converted to 38RF and 38CF (38 Short Colt).It seems the current replicas
could be converted to 38 Short or 38S&W. WHAT AM I MISSING HERE?
I realize that demand for such conversion cyclinders might not be enough to justify the costs of producing them so the question may just be academic,but I'm still interested.
Thanks in advance for any clarification or further information.

Waddie Bill
Title: Re: Conversion Cylinder for 1862 Uberti
Post by: Adirondack Jack on December 22, 2010, 06:05:35 PM
Quote from: Waddie Bill on December 22, 2010, 01:19:24 PM
I've followed this topic for some time;several replies state that conversions are not possible due to thin cyclinder walls.
Many origional 62"s Police and Navy models were converted to 38RF and 38CF (38 Short Colt).It seems the current replicas
could be converted to 38 Short or 38S&W. WHAT AM I MISSING HERE?
I realize that demand for such conversion cyclinders might not be enough to justify the costs of producing them so the question may just be academic,but I'm still interested.
Thanks in advance for any clarification or further information.

Waddie Bill

According to Walt Kirst, the stepped design of the cylinder and the frame window to match means the back end leaves scant room for chambers and cylinder notches.  I'm really not sure the originals were converted in .38, but instead we may be seeing .32 retrofits using the compatible .32 barrels (that IS doable on the '62 frame)
Title: Re: Conversion Cylinder for 1862 Uberti
Post by: Waddie Bill on December 22, 2010, 10:18:35 PM
Quote from: Adirondack Jack on December 22, 2010, 06:05:35 PM
According to Walt Kirst, the stepped design of the cylinder and the frame window to match means the back end leaves scant room for chambers and cylinder notches.  I'm really not sure the originals were converted in .38, but instead we may be seeing .32 retrofits using the compatible .32 barrels (that IS doable on the '62 frame)

  Jack,

  According to my "Flayderman's" book, approximately 25,000 1862 Police and Navy conversions were produced,all in 38RF or 38 CF. All have rebated (stepped) cyclinders. So I guess I still have my origional question.
Thanks for your input.
  Waddie Bill
Title: Re: Conversion Cylinder for 1862 Uberti
Post by: pony express on December 26, 2010, 10:39:42 AM
I would think that cylinder notches would not matter, since it is a 5 shot. They would be in between the chambers. 

I remember seeing a conversion cylinder for these listed in the Taylors catalogue several years ago, but may have been a misprint. After I bought an Uberti 1862, I checked, and it was not listed anymore, in the newer catalogue, or website.
Title: Re: Conversion Cylinder for 1862 Uberti
Post by: Fox Creek Kid on December 26, 2010, 06:58:13 PM
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