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Title: Quick Drying Brass SG Shell Sealer
Post by: Dusty Morningwood on September 26, 2008, 07:01:08 AM
I have been using Elmers wood glue to seal my Magtech brass.  Takes a couple of days to dry.  So I thought maybe Elmers white glue would dry faster.  It did not.  Two days and still tacky.  Early on I tried wax, but it shrank away from case walls on a couple and they  fell apart in the slide.  Any suggestions on a sealer that will dry fast, but not shrink like wax?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Quick Drying Brass SG Shell Sealer
Post by: Steel Horse Bailey on September 26, 2008, 08:00:24 AM
Howdy, Dusty!

I use waterglass - modern name: sodium silicate.  It is available at Tractor Supply and probably other similar stores.  It is used in the farming community as a concrete sealer for animal stalls and other uses.   My friend Jed Cooper got me a large (32 oz. or so) jar of it and I think it was around $15-$20.  That much will last several lifetimes! 

It is a water-based concoction, which causes its one negative feature.  A couple years ago I loaded up some shotgun shells - I use ONLY Black Powder and in Magtech brass hulls. Anyway, due to circumstances (that take too long to re-tell) they sat - loaded - for over a year.  Sometime between 6 months after being loaded and when I checked them out over a year after I loaded them, the glue had dried up and cracked.  It wasn't a major problem as I simply put more waterglass on and e-sealed them.  Since then I use more as a sealer and since I haven't waited that long to shoot any, there is no challenge.  One of the nicest things about this stuff is that when the fired hulls go into my water with a little liquid soap solution I use to neutralize the BP fouling, MOST of the waterglass just washes right off and leaves little (mostly NONE) residue inside the hull.

I have used Elmers like you.  No good.  Parrafin ... parrafein ... paraffein ... sp?  worked OK  (spell check tells me it's paraffin.)  :D

A friend recommends Duco cement.  He says that it's relatively cheap and remains flexible.  I won't bother trying it since I have so much waterglass already that works perfectly for me.  He also said that the Duco leaves a ring on the inside of the hull.  Bill tells me it's easy to remove with a small knife blade, but ... Shucks, that's more work than I do, so I see no reason to change.
;)
Title: Re: Quick Drying Brass SG Shell Sealer
Post by: Dick Dastardly on September 26, 2008, 08:00:42 AM
"Tacky" glue, found at fabric and hobby stores sets up real quick.  It's used to put beads and stuff on costumes.  It's cheep, dries quick and is pretty non viscous.  This stuff might be just what yer lookin' for.

Thank my bride for the tip.

DD-DLoS
Title: Re: Quick Drying Brass SG Shell Sealer
Post by: Roosterman on September 26, 2008, 08:05:33 AM
I use Paraffin and have no problems with it pulling away. Lately I've been using my lube cookie mix of paraffin, crisco, olive oil and murph'ys. It's consistency is kind of like a greasy wax. I use lubed wads, which leaves lube on the inside of the shell. I can't get anything but paraffin to stick. I've been using these for a couple months now, so far I haven't had any dump their shot out yet .
Title: Re: Quick Drying Brass SG Shell Sealer
Post by: Tequila Jim on September 26, 2008, 10:53:47 AM
I use poly seam seal,  dries over night.  Got it at the Ace place. Regards, TJ :)
Title: Re: Quick Drying Brass SG Shell Sealer
Post by: Dusty Morningwood on September 26, 2008, 11:54:42 AM
Quote from: Tequila Jim on September 26, 2008, 10:53:47 AM
I use poly seam seal,  dries over night.  Got it at the Ace place. Regards, TJ :)

TJ:
Does this stuff leave anything behind on the case walls?
Title: Re: Quick Drying Brass SG Shell Sealer
Post by: Paladin UK on September 26, 2008, 01:02:11 PM
FWIW.. ::)
I wuz usin Bostic sealant costs `bout £3.75 a tube `n` it didnt last long

Now I`m usin UHU its Reeeel cheap, I get a huge tube fer £1.00 and sets within minutes!!
I droppped a case, head first from `bout a foot onto my worktop `n` the seal didnt budge!!

(http://i21.ebayimg.com/01/i/001/06/81/6aaa_1.JPG)



Paladin  (Whats been usin it now fer a few months with Nooooo probs  ;D ) UK  
Title: Re: Quick Drying Brass SG Shell Sealer
Post by: Sir Charles deMouton-Black on September 26, 2008, 02:36:14 PM
Like this?

http://www.gluewithuhu.com/

Here's the US distributor.

http://www.saunders-usa.com/uhu/

Is it the ALL PURPOSE CRAFT GLUE?

http://www.saunders-usa.com/uhu/?brand=93&model=111
Title: Re: Quick Drying Brass SG Shell Sealer
Post by: Tequila Jim on September 26, 2008, 04:52:03 PM
Dusty, yes a little bit. TJ
Title: Re: Quick Drying Brass SG Shell Sealer
Post by: Fingers McGee on September 29, 2008, 10:19:12 AM
Quoteauthor=Steel Horse Bailey link=topic=22488.msg290449#msg290449 date=1222434024]
Howdy, Dusty!

I use waterglass - modern name: sodium silicate.  It is available at Tractor Supply and probably other similar stores.  It is used in the farming community as a concrete sealer for animal stalls and other uses.   My friend Jed Cooper got me a large (32 oz. or so) jar of it and I think it was around $15-$20.  That much will last several lifetimes!

+1 - it's cheap and a quart jar will last longer than you will.
Title: Re: Quick Drying Brass SG Shell Sealer
Post by: Paladin UK on September 29, 2008, 12:42:06 PM
Fer Sir Charles....
From what I kin read it looks to be the same jest a diiferent label,
On mine it says.  An `All purpose` glue for wood, plastic, fabric, paper, cardboard. and Metal!! (I very much doubt the use of this on metal)!!


Paladin  (What used some `bout 2hrs ago in his shotshells  ;) ) UK
Title: Re: Quick Drying Brass SG Shell Sealer
Post by: Wills Point Pete on September 30, 2008, 02:48:47 AM
 I like DUCO. It dries fairly quickly, although I let it sit overnight. The little bit that sticks to the case is no problem for me as I run mine in the vibratory case cleaner which takes it right out. The stuff dries clear so I can write the details of the load on the overshot wad and best of all it's $0.97 a tube.