Cas City Forum Hall & CAS-L

Let's start a picture thread! I don't think we have one.

I don't know of nun, but there ought to be.  So, I'll contribute a photo here.

DD-DLoS

  This is good as any place....Nice pic DD  ;D

Here`s my contribution........... ;D

(http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL680/2878980/5805586/94324305.jpg)

Paladin  (What lurvs the Holy Black  ;D ) UK

Ho PUK,

You've captured the essence of the smoke.  Well done.  Good pix.

Here's ol Silas McFee makin' genuine flames.

DD-DLoS

Here is one from Oconomowoc, WI in late April.

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k229/rudybolla/gunblast240812.jpg

And a short video from Ripon, WI in July.

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k229/rudybolla/th_DustyMorningwood.jpg) (http://s89.photobucket.com/albums/k229/rudybolla/?action=view&current=DustyMorningwood.flv)

Firing my '61 Navy at Prince of Pistoleers match Memorial Day weekend.

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/IMG_0805.jpg)

20 gr fffg Goex

Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee

How's this?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/Driftwood_Johnson/HenryandSmoke.jpg)

Quote from: Dick Dastardly on August 08, 2008, 05:04:00 PM
Here's ol Silas McFee makin' genuine flames.

Do ya gotta hoola hoop before ya start shootin'?  Longer ya do it, the more time gets taken off your total?

Me enjoying a smoke at EOT.
Sorry for the quality as it is a copy scanned from Guns & Ammo mag.  Couldn't get a copy of the original.

Hey BP,

That hula hoop and the John Deere monster tracks took a lot of kidding.  Youda thought they could have come up with some color besides purple. . .

DD-DLoS

Nice pic Fingers. Hee Yah!
:D :D :D
Deadeye Dick

Driftwood, Pard,

You've got something there.  Your photo seems to hang on to the essence, substance as it were, of the mystery of the Darkside.  Good on you.

Here's one I felt good about.  The smoke says it all.  The 10ga says they're all down.

DD-DLoS

Kinda breezy today...

BP

Hows about this`n of Sara.....  2nd barrel has jest dispensed unimaginable terror on a steel plate!!!

(http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL680/2878980/5805586/94537676.jpg)

Paladin  (What lurvs his sweet little 16s ) UK

OK  heres my two cents worth.
             These are my Ladies, Pietta 1862 Army Police (?), 5 1/2" barrels. And as all here are aware being devoted to the Darkside they are of questionable heritage but they have hearts of gold.
                                                         Gun Butcher

 ;D  Even lookin' at pictures puts a big ol' smile on yer face. Driftwood whoever took that shot has truly shown that the light of the heavens shines on the Darkside
                                                   GB

'87 in action

The Old and The New
(http://i30.tinypic.com/iv9x7r.jpg)
1858 NMA .44 ASP Rem, & 1858 NMA .44 SS Euroarms

Chess?
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/07-07-08_1137-1.jpg)
ASM 1860 Army, Pietta 1860 Army, Chess Set War of Northern Agression.

Good Idea Pic Postin'
SG

Here's one of a Pard shootin at the 2006 WV State Championship.  This is one of my favorite "Fire Photos"
(http://inlinethumb25.webshots.com/19992/2478816660037882758S500x500Q85.jpg) (http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2478816660037882758EOvuvz)

Fer MM............

Awesome!! Pard Jest...........


Paladin  (What can`t wait fer the weekend  ;D ) UK

Fer Alabama..........
Here`s another  1873 `Odd ball`
Mines an ASM Ned Peppers gotta Uberti..........
They were produced to `fill the void` created by the 1998 Pistol Ban in the UK. Bob Dunkley (Founder of the BWSS) had talks with Uberti and they came up with the 1873 Cattleman a wonderful answer

(http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL680/2878980/16503241/329794512.jpg)

Sadly, :'( to my knowledge,they are not being produced by anyone now, they are still  much sought after this side of the pond. :'(


Paladin  (What lurvs his ASM 1873 C&B ) UK

Well gang, I had a request to create a picture thread for The Den. After conferring with the other moderators I've decided to go with it.

HOWEVER, I ask that you please use a picture hosting site, such as Photo Bucket to create links to this thread. Using the local picture gadget on t
his site will tend to take up major bandwidth that the board owner might need elsewhere. OK?

I'm going to merge some existing threads into this one too. Now....have fun and let's see those irons, and some smokey picts too!  ;D

Fer Alabama...........

Yessireee they are booootiful grips, made to my spec.  by Russ of... Russ `n` Hound fame

Paladin  (What lurvs his grips  ;) ) UK

Me taking on the dreaded texas star with my ruger old army
kirst conversion and cowboy special loaded with DD's epp ug bullets

I'm in. ;D (http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/4329/97950050cy0.jpg)

(http://i35.tinypic.com/11lh6yd.jpg)
(http://i30.tinypic.com/2eldt1z.jpg)
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/07-17-08_1447.jpg)
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/07-11-08_0622.jpg)


SG :)

Here's some goodies:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b70/m1a1mstrgn/Reenactment%20Weapons%20and%20Tools/dcp_1946.jpg)

These aren't all C&B ... but they're all shot with BP ...  ;)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b70/m1a1mstrgn/Reenactment%20Weapons%20and%20Tools/dcp_1572.jpg)

Before I got my Colt Dragoon ...

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b70/m1a1mstrgn/Reenactment%20Weapons%20and%20Tools/dcp_1571.jpg)

A mighty handsome arsenal you have there Steel Horse Bailey.


SG8)

                :) :D ;D ::) :o 8) ;D You have some really nice GOODIES their  ;D ;D 8)


                                                   tEN wOLVES  ;) :D ;D

I agree. ;D

Thank you, kindly pards!

35+ years of BP.  ;)  Someday I'll take pictures of my rifles!  ;D

Here are mine .........

Very nice - and an 11th Cav Guidon ta boot. 

I was in the Blackhorse from '83-'90.

Great unit!

No photos....how about a couple of videos?

56-50 Spencer

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/Mossyrock/th_Spencer1.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v210/Mossyrock/?action=view&current=Spencer1.flv)

Winchester '73
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/Mossyrock/th_Winchester73.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v210/Mossyrock/?action=view&current=Winchester73.flv)

Quote from: Steel Horse Bailey on August 15, 2008, 03:39:04 PM
Very nice - and an 11th Cav Guidon ta boot. 

I was in the Blackhorse from '83-'90.

Great unit!

My time with the Blackhorse was 69-70. So, you probably know where the name "Fiddler Green" came from, huh?

Quote from: Fiddler Green on August 16, 2008, 12:58:47 AM
My time with the Blackhorse was 69-70. So, you probably know where the name "Fiddler Green" came from, huh?

Yep - sure do.

Take care, amigo.

Ok now, I have done my part and then some  , lets post up some photos Pardners , or I am going to keep posting revolvers till your absolutely sick of looking at my revolvers !!!!   ;D Lets get this special forum heading for the Darksiders Guns that Cuts Crooked so genrously made possible going now . I know you gots a camera , and I know you know how to use it better than I do , and I KNOW you got some fine guns for me to look at , so post em up , I want to see some guns here by golly .  ;D

Alabama

OK Alabama.  Here's my contribution.  From top to bottom
Pair of C Series 2nd Gen Colt '51 Navies
Pair of Navy Arms Frontiersmen
Pair of Taylor/Uberti '61 Navies
Pair of Pietta U.S Marshall .44 cal '51 Navies
Uberti Stainless Steel '51 Navy
Pietta US Marshal .36 Cal '51 Navy
Pair of Pietta Lawman model 1860 Armies

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/100_1549.jpg)

This has sure turned into a fine post!

Quote from: Alabama on August 21, 2008, 12:53:07 PM
Those are some fine looking revolvers Fingersmcgee , just dandy nice !  ;D
Now there's an arsenal  ;D

Alabama

And that picture doesn't include my latest shooters - Uberti 1860 Army, polished in the white; and a pair of 2nd Gen Colt 1861 Navies - or any of my NIB collectors models.

Fingers (Show Me MO Smoke) McGee

OK, fingers ... I simply have to see those Second Gen '61s! I am thinking of buying one.

QuoteDid you polish the 1860's you didn't show , yourself ?
Sure would like to see that sometime ? Sounds nice on a nice revolver to start with .

No Alabama, I bought it that way from another SASS member who got it from someone else.  The Bluing and case hardening was stripped off and the metal polished.  Even though it's 30+ years old, it is still very tight, locks up great, and shoots without a hitch or hiccup.

OK, here are some more of my collection.  Top to bottom:

Pair of F series 2nd Gen Colt 1861 Navies
Uberti 1860 Army (circa 1972) polished in the white
Uberti '49 Pocket model w/R&D 32 short 6 shot conversion cylinder
And a NIB commemorative - C Series 2nd Gen Colt Bicentennial 3rd Model Dragoon

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/100_1573.jpg)

Wow, those '61s are beautiful. Almost looks like an oil finish on the grips.

QuoteYour realize I am adoptable , if you need someone to " WILL " those revolvers to you know   
I promise I would take good care of your babies for you when your gone . 

I really really really like the pollished 1860 . Going to have to get another and do that to it , it looks mighty clean and sanitary like that , especially with Blued screws , nice touch .
The 61's are equally as admirable for sure . And of course I love Dragoons, so needless to say . Very nice collection you have , very nice . Thanks for sharing .

Alabama, I'll add your name to the list  ;D, but I think there are more names than guns  :o  I like the polished '60 also.  The picture kinda shows that it needs some touch-up.  The loading lever is looking kinda dull, and the barrel has som spots.  Glad you like the pictures.  They constitute less than half my collection though.

QuoteWow, those '61s are beautiful. Almost looks like an oil finish on the grips.

Riot,  It is an oil finish.  I bought them from Grat Masterson in GA.  He had gotten them a few years ago to use as Frontiersman, but I guess decided it wasnt for him.  They had been sittin in his gun safe gathering dust; so he offered them to me since I've been posting that I was looking for a pair to shoot.  He had done some work to the actions, installed Treso nipples, and stripped the varnish off the grips.  The oil finish isnt near as slippery as the varnish, and looks a whole lot better.  I'll be using them the rest of this season, then ship them off to get some American Holly grips installed like I have on my '
51 Navies and Uberti '61 Navies.

Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee

Love all the pistols, but it seems the long guns have been neglected. Hence, my humble contribution:

My Winchester 1885 high wall, 38-55, which has tasted nothing but the sweet black (check out the range box, too)

(http://www.dorseyfoto.com/shoot/win1885a1.jpg)

(http://www.dorseyfoto.com/shoot/win1885b1.jpg)

(http://www.dorseyfoto.com/shoot/win1885c1.jpg)

And my trusty Pedersoli Rolling Block, 45-70, at the 200 yd range:

(http://www.dorseyfoto.com/73/wartracelongrange1a.jpg)

Quote from: Alabama on August 27, 2008, 04:13:23 PM
SSSSSSWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTT !!!!!!!!!   ;D
Alabama

Thanks, Alabama!  She's kinda plain jane compared to some of the fancy, casehardened stuff you see around, but she's rock-solid tight and shoots as straight as they come. 

I haveta say, Alabama, there ain't nothin plain jane about those great looking pistols you posted here.  Especially those grips--Man, they're Nice!  You ever shoot CAS in northern AL or Tenn?  Maybe I'll see your irons in person sometime.

JD

Here`s My Shootin Irons.......

http://paladin.awardspace.co.uk/Page%202.html (http://paladin.awardspace.co.uk/Page%202.html)

Paladin  (what hope`s ya enjoy lookin at `em  ;D ) UK

Here are a few more of my shootin irons:

Jefferson Davis Commemorative:

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/JeffDavisSet.jpg)

2nd Gen Colt Stainless Steel 1851 Navy with Colt accessories and case:

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/Cased2ndGenSSNavy.jpg)

2nd Gen Colt 1862 Pocket Navy cased set:

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/Cased2ndGenPocketNavy.jpg)

2nd Gen Colt 1860 Army cased set:

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/Cased2ndGen1860Army.jpg)

2nd Gen Colt 1860 Army Butterfield Stage commemorative:

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/2ndGenButterfield.jpg)

Fingers (ShowMe MO smoke) McGee

Here's a few of mine, a pair of Uberti Walkers I gave a worn look too, and a RM 60 army conversion in 44 colt.


There are a lot of sweet looking shooters here.

Quote from: fingersmcgee on September 02, 2008, 11:36:26 PM
Here are a few more of my shootin irons:

Jefferson Davis Commemorative:

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/JeffDavisSet.jpg)

2nd Gen Colt Stainless Steel 1851 Navy with Colt accessories and case:

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/Cased2ndGenSSNavy.jpg)

2nd Gen Colt 1862 Pocket Navy cased set:

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/Cased2ndGenPocketNavy.jpg)

2nd Gen Colt 1860 Army cased set:

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/Cased2ndGen1860Army.jpg)

2nd Gen Colt 1860 Army Butterfield Stage commemorative:

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/2ndGenButterfield.jpg)

Fingers (ShowMe MO smoke) McGee

WOW  :o I mean WOW  :o Some one has a few bucks in sets. Very Very nice!!!  8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

Wow, between 'Bama and Fingers I think that we got just about them all covered.  Don't have any Starrs so far.  Sorry this is my only pic at the moment with it fully leathered, but will work on a naked Starr pic later.  Really like my bulldog as well.

QuoteWow, between 'Bama and Fingers I think that we got just about them all covered.

That's not all - I've still got more

Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee

Ditto  ;D

Cool Bulldog , Tornado  ;D

Alabama

Here's my Darksider Toys !!!!

Both Uberties, a 3rd Model Dragoon & a Whitneyville Dragoon. These are my first C&B revolvers & I now wonder why I didn't get them earlier  ;D Great shooting irons too  ;)

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/mjdonkin/P9080093.jpg)


Lightning.

Me shooting my first BP cowboy loads 2007 GAF Muster.  If you looking in the first picture you can see one of my smoking brass flipping over my hat.  Thanks for the great pictures Slim.  Will post more pictures of my BP guns soon







(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r155/BristowKid/BrostowKidGAF20072.jpg)(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r155/BristowKid/BristowKidGAF2007.jpg)

I noticed you have your brim turned down: don't like collecting your own brass?  :D

Bruce

Great pics, wish someone took some of my first BP shoot last week, maybe next time. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

Just getting back into the Holy Black after a 20+ year absence - what was I thinking all those years  :o  Well now my pistols are 30 years old - practically antiques in their own right (will get regular exercise from now on!).  ;D

Alabama, who is it at work you don't like???
Huh??

Ho Kid..
Nice ta have ya with us  ;)

I lurv  the look of the grips on the lowest Pistola in yer case

Enjoy gettin ta know them again pard!! ;D

Paladin  (What cant wait fer the weekend ta make smoke ;D ) UK

Some old pictures. Sold the Nagant :'( Still got the 1860 though.

And my 1858's

Appreciate all the kind words regardin' the shootin' irons - am enjoying all the pics - gonna get me one o' them '58 remmies next, to round out the collection...

Got another nice old photo, before my cowboy days. Brownbess flintlock
sorry for the poor quality
(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z113/qballsweden/flintlock.jpg)

Quote from: Alabama on September 12, 2008, 08:37:50 PM
I love everyone I work with . I work alone , that's why  !!!  ;D

I'm self-employed and my boss is a jerk! (http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m274/Darkfold_2006/Emoticons/rant.gif)

Quote from: Alabama on September 14, 2008, 06:18:48 PM
Do you have any facial hair left is the question from the flintlock  ;D

Why do you think that my alias is Qball  ;D

My Greatgrandad's SAA and holster.  The SAA is circa 1881.

(http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp195/FiveBullets9-/028.jpg)

This Uberti started life as an in the white 58. Sorry the quality is bad I tried to shrink it.

Thanks Alabama!  We don't know what year that my Greatgranddad bought it but it had a longer barrel as we can tell that the barrel has been shortened.  The front sight is made from a "shield" nickle.  The holster doesn't have a makers mark and I hope to find some additional info on it.  My Dad shot it some in the early 1940's before he was drafted but it has not fired since.  The barrel and cylinders are somewhat pitted:(.

Was goofen off one night and made a video for my reenacting unit.  Its a slide show and song deal, but a few great BP shots in it.  We are calvery so lots of revolvers floating around our persons, as well as carbines, and lever action goodness....and a mountain howitser. ;)  Just click the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdiRVzOdcEs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdiRVzOdcEs)

Quote from: Cpt_Invictus on October 25, 2008, 12:42:42 PM
Was goofen off one night and made a video for my reenacting unit.  Its a slide show and song deal, but a few great BP shots in it.  We are calvery so lots of revolvers floating around our persons, as well as carbines, and lever action goodness....and a mountain howitser. ;)  Just click the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdiRVzOdcEs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdiRVzOdcEs)

Hey, Captain Invictus, howdy!

Nice slideshow!  Thanks for sharing.  Your troops look great!


Please don't think too bad of me but it's spelled 'Cavalry.'

It's the English major in me.

;)

Quote from: Cpt_Invictus on October 25, 2008, 12:42:42 PM
Was goofen off one night and made a video for my reenacting unit.  Its a slide show and song deal, but a few great BP shots in it.  We are calvery so lots of revolvers floating around our persons, as well as carbines, and lever action goodness....and a mountain howitser. ;)  Just click the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdiRVzOdcEs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdiRVzOdcEs)

Very nice. . . . Good that you have Hank Williams Jr. as a member to provide music for ya  ;D

Some of my guns at :  www.drburkholter.com/cf5.html (http://www.drburkholter.com/cf5.html)

Howdy all.
New guy here.  Did a lot of BP back in the seventies and early eighties, family came along so priorities changed.  I'm back with a vengeance.  It all started with a pair of 2nd series Colts, a Walker and a 61 Navy.  Then came a pair of NMA remingtons, a target pietta and a uberti carbine.  Newest is a unusual uberti 51 Navy, born in 1964 it is a very nice fit and finish with no roll engraving on the cylinder, imported by Navy Arms.  I just scored a 48 baby dragoon of GB. A nib uberti, looks nice but the end of the arbor is bent at the wedge slot.  I'll see if it shoots, it may become a wall hanger.  Somehow along the way I acquired a LeMat and a Howdah.  I'm black powder poor now, and loving it!
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/madcratebuilder/baby1.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/madcratebuilder/lemat1.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/madcratebuilder/bpSmall.jpg)

Spiller&Burr
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/Spiller%20and%20Burr%20Others/11-20-08_1025.jpg)
1960 NMA Belgium Centaure(early 1960's)
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/Spiller%20and%20Burr%20Others/11-20-08_1653.jpg)
1862 Colt .36 Pocket Police
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/Colt%20Pocket%20Police/11-15-08_1433.jpg)


SG

Here's my latest acquisition.

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/100_1654.jpg)

Unfired NIB 2nd Gen Baby Dragoon 1 of 500 cased set.

Have a 2nd Gen Walker & Pietta 1861 Navy on their way also

Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee

Fer Fingers........

That little ol Dragoon soooooo Boooooooootiful!! :o
Yer a Very lucky man pard ;D

Paladin  (Whats STILL   droolin  :D ) UK

That looks like a Wells Fargo , Fingers.  the "baby Dragoon" had a loading lever under the barrel, didn't it?

The original designation was Old Model Pocket Pistol or Model of 1848 Pocket pistol or Baby Dragoon. There were only a few (less than 10) Thousand of the 1848s made.  Wells Fargo supposedly purchased a large number of them for their agents which is how they have gotten that name today.  The Improved Pocket Pistol or Model of 1849 Pocket Pistol  had the loading levers.  The other noticeable difference between the 48 & 49 models were the cylinder slots and trigger guards.  The 48 had square back trigger guards and round or oval shaped slots like the Patterson, Walker and 1st Model Dragoons.  The 49s had round trigger guards 3rd Model Dragoons & and rectangular slots like 2nd and 3rd model Dragoons and all subsequent revolvers.  There was also a model introduced in 1850 with a six shot cylinder in place of the five shot cylinder.  That model is just lumped in with the 1849 models now days.

FM

1851 Confederate in .44

(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm30/wheeler331/P1011161.jpg)

(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm30/wheeler331/100_0431.jpg)

With Uberti 1866

(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm30/wheeler331/100_1015.jpg)

(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm30/wheeler331/100_1011.jpg)

Great thread folks!

I don't have any good pictures of myself shooting, but following QBall's lead, I've got a good fire picture of a pard shooting something somewhat older. ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/niemoller/SmokeFire.jpg)

Sweet ;D
I love them flinlocks, great photo.

It was one of those fortunate accidents. ;D  When I first saw the picture I thought the file was corrupt.

Lyman GPR 54cal
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/hossfly692000/G.jpg)

Traditions 1860 Army
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/hossfly692000/q.jpg)

CVA 1860 i just agreed to buy from over at SASSNET (needed a brace of course)  ::)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/hossfly692000/MVC-004F.jpg)

I dig those Poo sheets! ;D

I love ma 51 but gotta say those s frames er downright sexy...even on Winnie the Poo sheets ;D

Quote from: Leo Tanner on January 27, 2009, 06:45:04 PM
I love ma 51 but gotta say those s frames er downright sexy...even on Winnie the Poo sheets ;D

I really gotta take new pics  :-[ ;D ;D

That's OK, I should have said especially .

Here's that 51 ready ta go...

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg133/leotanner/51andbag002.jpg)

Leo, That's a nice looking "possibles" bag.

Quote from: Leo Tanner on January 29, 2009, 12:56:03 AM
That's OK, I should have said especially .

Here's that 51 ready ta go...

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg133/leotanner/51andbag002.jpg)

I knew thats wat ya ment to say  ;D ;D
VERY nice '51  :D
OK, heres mine ready ta go sans Poo & a new set of grips  ::) ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/hossfly692000/sss.jpg)

Very nice Boss.  Always got ma eye out fer a 60.

Quote from: Leo Tanner on January 29, 2009, 05:27:41 PM
Very nice Boss.  Always got ma eye out fer a 60.

Thanx- honestly i always been a big '51 fan but the gripframe is too small fer ma big ole paws  :P

Here'e my latest project.  Pietta engraved in the white, .36 Cal 1851 US Marshal model.  I've added the GWII steel backstrap, trigger guard and faux ivory grips.  Next step is getting the BS/TG engraved to matche the frame & barrel.

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/100_1704.jpg)

FM

Hey Finners!

That's a nice gun you got there.  I have a '51 US Marshal in .44 myself.  I've never held a gun that felt so natural in my hand.  Very accurate too!

Fingers, Outstanding!  That's a real handsome bullet-launcher.

Quote from: Steel Horse Bailey on January 30, 2009, 03:45:14 PM
Fingers, Outstanding!  That's a real handsome bullet-launcher.

Agreed! 
     The fluted cylinder on a 51 is a real eye catcher.  Don't see a whole lot of em in my neck of the woods.

Quote from: Fingers McGee on January 30, 2009, 02:39:35 PM
Here'e my latest project.  Pietta engraved in the white, .36 Cal 1851 US Marshal model.  I've added the GWII steel backstrap, trigger guard and faux ivory grips.  Next step is getting the BS/TG engraved to matche the frame & barrel.

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/100_1704.jpg)

FM

I LIKE it!!!!! ;D
The  fluted cylinder is a big plus!!!!!!

Glad that I was a leenin back in ma chair when I looked at yer fine revovler!  Just go the drool on my shirt and not the keyboard! ::) ;D ;D  Real purty!!

Quote from: Dr. Bob on January 30, 2009, 08:55:38 PM
Glad that I was a leenin back in ma chair when I looked at yer fine revovler!  Just go the drool on my shirt and not the keyboard! ::) ;D ;D  Real purty!!

And it shoots real good too.  At least it did with the old grips/grip frame.  Hopefully it'll shot as good with the new grips/grip frame.

FM

Only one way ta find out :D :D

OK the new guy in town & I'll post a few pictures of what is at home any way "what my brother hasn't claimed as his that is."  ::)

The Armory..
(http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/7323983/aview/The_Armory.jpg)

My 2 Remingtons, top is Uberti NMA Millenium, bottom is my custom done Pietta NMA w/ 5.5" barrel.
(http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/7323983/aview/2_Remingtons.jpg)

Ready for a walk about.
(http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/7323983/aview/Custom_Pietta__58.jpg)

My oldest shooting my Pietta NMA with my target load ofcorse.
(http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/7323983/aview/100_1627.JPG)

Yer oldest is the spittin image of ma youngest.  I'll dig up some pitchers.

Nice guns.  Is there a reason fer usin differnt caps on the Pieta than the Uberti?  Just wonderin.

The Uberti isn't loaded in the pic & I make it a habbit of sealing the capped end with wax "or this case finger nail polish, don't tell Moma" when I keep any of my C&B Revolvers loaded for any length of time.

BTW I've had the best of luck with Remington #11's

I haven't been exactly overjoyed with CCI #10's.  The Rems are hard to find in my area and I worry about getting a good seal over the nipple so I've been staying with the 10's.  It's been tempting to try the 11's.
     The Uberti does look capped in those photos.

Nice toys, Raider2K!

Thanks for sharing.  We LOVE to drool over other folk's stuff!  Glad yer gettin' yer young-un involved, too.


Fingers - that's right purty!  I LOVE the silver & ivory look!!!

This Ruger is VERY customized;  I did the birdhead grip thing (with the help of "Qualite' ") about 2 years before I ever saw a Ruger-made birdhead.  There's a lot of other stuff done, too.  In the course of doing the brass gripframe (actually bronze)  and other touches, the 'billboard' warning disappeared from the left side of the barrel.
;)

The other gun ain't real special ... it's pretty beat-up and shows its age.  It's a Iver Johnson model of 1883 - made later but I'm not sure 'zackly when.  It's in 38 S&W that I load up with BP.  It's a 5-shot, but the durn thing shoots real straight and smacks the targets with good authority!  I've considered loading one on the clock and using it as a main-match gun just fer grins.  At least for one stage.  Ballistically, It's prob'ly about what a 36 C&B would do. 

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b70/m1a1mstrgn/Reenactment%20Weapons%20and%20Tools/dcp_1566.jpg)

The grips on the I.J. are what they listed as the Factory "Target" grips.  They are VERY comfortable.

Quote from: Steel Horse Bailey on February 16, 2009, 01:50:39 PM

Fingers - that's right purty!  I LOVE the silver & ivory look!!!

This Ruger is VERY customized;  I did the birdhead grip thing (with the help of "Qualite' ") about 2 years before I ever saw a Ruger-made birdhead.  There's a lot of other stuff done, too.  In the course of doing the brass gripframe (actually bronze)  and other touches, the 'billboard' warning disappeared from the left side of the barrel.   ;)

The other gun ain't real special ... it's pretty beat-up and shows its age.  It's a Iver Johnson model of 1883 - made later but I'm not sure 'zackly when.  It's in 38 S&W that I load up with BP.  It's a 5-shot, but the durn thing shoots real straight and smacks the targets with good authority!  I've considered loading one on the clock and using it as a main-match gun just fer grins.  At least for one stage.  Ballistically, It's prob'ly about what a 36 C&B would do. 

The grips on the I.J. are what they listed as the Factory "Target" grips.  They are VERY comfortable.

I like the silver & white look on the birdshead too.  Ya need to silver plate the grip frame to finish it.  Using the old IJ for a main match gun would be a hoot

FM

Quote from: Fingers McGee on February 17, 2009, 12:17:31 AM
I like the silver & white look on the birdshead too.  Ya need to silver plate the grip frame to finish it.  Using the old IJ for a main match gun would be a hoot

FM

Nah ... no silver plate.   I polish up the bronze with my wheel and rouge and it looks like jewelry quality gold.  I like the look.  When I bought the grip from Qualite', I had the choice of bronze or Stainless Steel.  (For an added $50)  I like the look of the polished SS gun with the polished Bronze and Ivory coloured grips.

You know what they say about opinions ... everybody's got one.
;D

I think this is the season that I WILL use the old I.J. at least a stage or two.  I'm not worried about my time - hell, they time me with a sundial, anyhoo!

:D

Quote from: Steel Horse Bailey on February 17, 2009, 07:56:07 AM

Nah ... no silver plate.   I polish up the bronze with my wheel and rouge and it looks like jewelry quality gold.  I like the look.  When I bought the grip from Qualite', I had the choice of bronze or Stainless Steel.  (For an added $50)  I like the look of the polished SS gun with the polished Bronze and Ivory coloured grips.

You know what they say about opinions ... everybody's got one.   ;D

I think this is the season that I WILL use the old I.J. at least a stage or two.  I'm not worried about my time - hell, they time me with a sundial, anyhoo!   :D

You're right there.  Have fun with the IJ.

Here's a couple pictures of my latest acquisition.  NIB - still wrapped in plastic with the cosmoline on it - Uberti Paterson w/loading lever that was Mfg in 1996.

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/100_1725.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/100_1726.jpg)

     Fingers    Nice Find,after you picked that up,I hope you stoped and bought a Powerball ticket,it was your lucky day.    Adios  Sgt.Jake

I wish.  Unfortunately it's lucky in guns, unlucky in lottery.

I also got a pair of NIB 51 Navies in the deal - one London model & one Squareback model).  Gonna sell them.

FM

Fine lookin' Patty, Fingers!

Those Navies ought to be real sweet, too.

My black powder shrine.....

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2007-4/1252580/old+west+gun+collection.jpg)


YMH&OS,

Brass

Brass, that is one helluva collection, and an awesome picture.  I love the arrangement.

Jack ... I'm speechless!  Awesome!


(And you know ME well enough to know what it takes to make me speechless!)
;)

Quote from: Steel Horse Bailey on February 22, 2009, 09:00:01 AM
Jack ... I'm speechless!  Awesome!

+1.  Words fail me.

FM

                                     ::) :o :o :o :o :o :o 8) WOW  :D ;D


                                                tEN wOLVES  ;) :D ;D

 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Fellas - only a few items in that picture are original pieces, almost all are repros. But if they were all were originals, now THAT would be impressive..! The firearms arrangement was field expediency as they wouldn't fit on my canvas unless they were almost stacked on top each other - will need a bigger canvas if I get any more guns. And for SHB - you've never been at a loss for words, amigo - you're just funnin' with me!

In keeping with this site's mission in honoring holy black powder society and in fostering the only true historical path in propellents (sorry smokeless shooters, I'm an 1860s-70s kinda guy) I'm pleased to make this confession: Only one revolver and one rife shown in that picture (one of the '73 Colt clones and the Henry clone) has ever fired smokeless - back when I was just starting out in CAS and had to buy ammo off the shelf before I could make my own. Thankfully that didn't last but a couple of shoots - I got situated to make BP ammo as quickly as possible and it's been blackpowder or nuthin' since. And, in closing, if I couldn't shoot BP I wouldn't be shooting at all.

That's my personal black powder story, history, and confession for all of you here supporting that most hallowed propellent.

YMH&OS,

Brass

Dang, that 'Monterrey' Jack is a tough act to follow, but here's the newest addition to my guns what only shoot the true propellant...

(http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo347/realtordoug_photos/remmie.jpg)

repro's or not nicely done...Kid Copeland yours also

Amen!  ;D

Amen 2!

Thanks for the words of confidence, MJB!

Nothing fancy, but this is the current light of my (shooting) life.  A Pietta Clone of the Colt Model 1860 Army.  Newly purchased, with only 22 rounds through her so far:

(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x35/pmhamilton/2009-03-0507-45-00Colt1860Army8.jpg)

And her other side:

(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x35/pmhamilton/2009-03-0507-43-44Colt1860Army3.jpg)


WM

addicting, aint it? :D ;)

yup!

WM

I can't believe it took me all this time to find this topic.  I just love pics, and BP guns are at the top of my list of  8) things.  However, :-[ I'm almost embarrassed to post pics of my paltry collection of BP guns.  So with your permission I'll muster up a few photos.

My 1st BP firearm was a lowly T/C Hawken... 1st rendevous I went to, I was rather rudely treated, quite in contrast to the treatment when I showed up for my 1st cowboy action match with my .45 Colt SAA, Riverside Arms side-by-side and a Winchester 94 in .30WCF! :o  But, that was back in 1985, and no one had told me different.  And, then as in now, a great pard stepped up and loaned this newby a Marlin 1894 in .44-40 to shoot... but I digress

My 2nd BP firearm (Uberti copy of a J&S Hawken in the Sante Fe museum... .53 caliber)  Never went to another rendevous, but did shoot, & WIN a couple of local matches with it:
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/sass93/hawken3.jpg)

And a pic of my using it in the long range side event @ EOT in 1986... while the 200 yard targets weren't particularily difficult to hit... that time as a tie breaker was a BUST!
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/sass93/eot87-1.jpg)


My 2nd BP firearm, and the first I bought for SASS.  Although I really wanted a Paterson, Gen'l Grant talked me into this ASM assembled 1851 using left over parts made the Colt 2nd Gen guns.  All parts interchange with my 2nd Gen Colts except for the location of the pins on the front of the frame.  And I used it in SASS matches for a few years... still gets limbered up on ocassion! ;D
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/sass93/ASM.jpg)

The 1st shotgun I used in CAS matches (predating SASS) was my 1919 Riverside Arms 12 guage, not particularly speedy as it's the predecessor to the Stevens 311, but a prior owner had carved a nice piece of wood for her!  And for being so pretty, sometimes I still drag her along to a shoot, just to look good... since I can't shoot good!
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/sass93/IMG_0940.jpg)

The entire array of 1851s, two 2nd Gens (one near the beginning of production, one near the end, both in holsters), the ASM and a Signature Series that're used for back up duty.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/sass93/img_0230.jpg)

My 1st rifle used in the original BP category in SASS (C&B only, no suppository handguns need apply, ah those were the days), it's the 1st Uberti 1873 chambered in .45 Colt sold by EMF.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/sass93/73SportingRifle.jpg)

My latest BP rifle, as yet unfired and the bookend of the above 1873... the LAST Henry chambered in .45 Colt sold by EMF!
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/sass93/IMG_0231.jpg)

My next Long Range Rifle was a little more competitive, a Shiloh Sharp's in .40-90BN, a long saved for gift from "She-Who-Must-Be-Obeyed" for my graduation gift from the Sheriff's Academy a decade before... worthy gifts like this have kept her in my good graces for the past 38 years.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/sass93/DSCF0005.jpg)

As SASS eliminated the BP category in favor of those dreaded suppository handguns, I felt it necessary to update my equipment also... (actually, this was already in inventory, just found a new and pleasing use (note the decidedly ungainly pose and cavalier hold on the Stoeger).
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/sass93/BPOne-handinit.jpg)

And let's not forget the several years I used the Colt SAAs in mounted shoots, this pic from 1998 when I won the big shoot in TX.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/sass93/Griff.jpg)

Another shot from an early EOT... don't you just love it when you finish a stage and the spotters failed to see your misses!
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/sass93/cleanstage.jpg)

great pic's nice lookin' pony too

Now, I'm really ashamed. I've only got 2 BP pistols and what's even worse, I've never shot either one of them.  I've got a CVA 36 cal 1851 Navy and a Uberti 1860 44 cal Army.  Sometime, I am going to learn how to shoot those things. I don't know anything about C & B.  I've shot SA Rugers and other CAS pistols.  Most of my experience with handguns deals with carrying a pistol as a LEO for almost 40 years.

Tex...when you get off work you ought try'm out...like they say around here it's not rocket science


Here some of mine ain't quite CAS but they sure make smoke fire and brimestone   and stinky...I have shot BP out of all my guns cept the bottom feeders and a .22 sure wish I could get some .22lr's in the holy black ;D

I joined the ranks with Arcey as a retired cop Oct. 08.  I guess I'm scared of blowin'my self up.

lil tooster, thankee.   Miss Fits Poco was 16 when that pic was taken, and @27, she's still boss o the barn!

Texas Lawdog, no need to be ashamed... EVERYBODY LEARNT SOMETIME... wasn't a one of us t'was BORN knowin' how ta shoot BP.  And no worries, you CANNOT put enough of the holy black in them sixshooters to do harm.  Get an adjustable BP measure, some 3F (FFFg Goex); put about 15 grains (by volume) in that '51 and 'bout 25 in that '60; stuff a lubed "Wonder Wad" of appropiate size over the powder, then ram a .375 or .380 ball in the '51 or a .457 in the '60... point safely down range, put a #10 cap on yer nipple (them on the back of the cylinder) and finally, musterin' all the "huevos" ya got, pull that hammer back, put the trigger finger inside the trigger guard.  Presto-changeo, a new Darksider is born!

If I can do it, you sure as heck can.  If you like being really involved with what your doing it's more fun than than shootin cartriges.  There's a lot of little nitpicky stuff folks argue over but the basics er just that--BASIC.

Come on, ya know ya wanna ;D

Griff if I was to guess I would have said Poco, you can change their color but they still have that look

Alright.................... >:(
It's my turn to go
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c91/buckoff123/100_1158.jpg)
(the ones on the right don't count)


(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c91/buckoff123/100_1160.jpg)
Some long guns.......................


(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c91/buckoff123/100_1161.jpg)
Different angle.........................

Hope ya'll enjoy!

HH

wipin' the drool off chin...wow

Um...um...wow... and um...

Not much more ta say I guess.  That's one heck of a collection.

HF, I commend you to the Gods, you have more 'stock' than my local dealer.  :o

If'n you get tired of any, put me in the queue!

Now I got to clean my keyboard of all this drool  ;D

AE

  Howdy Hoof :o 8) ;D

         It looks like you've been in BOYS HEAVEN for some time, I could just sit for hours just looking at your collection, you're a very very lucky Pard to say the least. :D ;D  Thanks for sharing these pictures with all of us. ;D


                                                   tEN wOLVES  ;) :D ;D

Thanks for all the compliments boys!
I was "single with toys" until 41. I sold most of the motorized stuff when I picked an appropriate lady, but the firearm collection was never on the chopping block ;)

You should see the "smokeless stuff" ::) I played IPSC and 3 Gun for a long time too ;D

HH

                                ;) :D ;D LIKE I SAID  ::) ;D


                                          TW  ;) :D ;D

That's kinda impressive.

;)

Quote from: Steel Horse Bailey on March 07, 2009, 11:35:08 AM
That's kinda impressive.
;)

You WIN!  Understatement of the Century!

Gee... looks like what I've always wanted to do if I won the lottery. 

Dang, now I'm all hot and need to go clean the fog from my glasses. 

Is that a Colt lightning in there? 

Quote from: Leo Tanner on March 07, 2009, 11:46:21 PM
Is that a Colt lightning in there? 

Leo

Actually there are two!
One is a patina/grey 32-20 that has some history and has a 20" bbl.
The other is a super nice 38-40 with factory Lyman beeches front sight and Lyman tang with target cup in the rear. The bore on it still was blue when I got it :o

HH

Wow.  I was thinkin there were two but didn't want to go out on a limb.  The whole collection is just beautiful.

(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o67/mb1k/DSC02016.jpg)
My 3rd Generation Colt (Uberti) 1860

(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o67/mb1k/DSC02022.jpg)
The 1860 again.

(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o67/mb1k/DSC01967.jpg)
The "Twins".  Consecutively numbered Cimarron Richards Type IIs.  Both tuned by Steve's Guns.

(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o67/mb1k/DSC01975.jpg)
#55.  Wish the cylinder engraving was as nice as their 1860 percussion cylinders.

(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o67/mb1k/DSC01976.jpg)
#54.  Again, light roll engraving and over polished cylinder regardless of how nice the shiny bluing is.

Missing is my Armi San Marco 1851 brass frame bought in '89 when I was in college.  Pics soon to come.

All I can say is   WOW


Mason ;D

Very nice pictures (an guns of course).  My wife is in love with the 1860 platform.  Can't wait ta see the 51.

Thanks Leo & Mason,

As promised here's the pic of my oldest c&b, the ASM 1851 "WTF" Griswold & Gunnison.  Where to even start?!?  To even start resembling anything accurate it should have a smooth cylinder for starters, and the next glaring error is the hexagonal barrel where a round one should have been replicated.  But... I think what really was the driving factor in this pistol was ASM trying to get a lower price point with CVA to sell to another type of buyer.  Meaning me, the starving college student where you decide "one for under $100, or the one over $100 dollars"?

(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o67/mb1k/DSC02037.jpg)
ASM 1851 Brass Frame

Regardless.  I like it!  It's my first blackpowder firearm and I can't even begin to figure out how many round balls I've put through it!  Soon to go to Steve's Gunz for some action work.

(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg133/leotanner/100_5459.jpg)

This is my Uberti made in 1967, has the original G and G features you mentioned.  It needs an tuning too and I'm dead set on doing it at home.  Wish me luck. 

Been a while since I was in these parts, saw this and decided I needed to add these:

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g66/nhwildbill/guns/1851ConvertedNavywithTru-Ivorygr-1.jpg)
My converted '51 Navies and rig

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g66/nhwildbill/Newton05-07-Stage4-WildBillpistols0.jpg)
Smokin' it up with my opentops

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g66/nhwildbill/Newton05-07-Stage5-WildBillrifle001.jpg)
Chokin' Jimmy Spurs with my '73  :D

Very nice!

Nice shirt Wild Bill... Looks warmish; but then way up yonder in Yankee-land I 'spect ya need such!  Tsk, Tsk, ruinin' '51s like that... BUT they's shore purdy! ;D

 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)SWEET!

FINE lookin' shootin' irons, Thai F!

Quote from: Steel Horse Bailey on April 14, 2009, 09:21:35 PM
FINE lookin' shootin' irons, Thai F!

Thanks!  After getting familiar with the 1860 I'm beginning to see the differences, read concessions, made for the Cimmaron RM Type II.  It's cylinder is virtually ginormous side by side to the standard 1860!

That's perty.  The stripped finish looks great!

Just got my 1851 RM today, haven't even had a chance to shoot it yet.
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb280/FourEyedFloyd/51RM.jpg)

Kewel!! ;D  Hours of fun right there! ::) ;D

Quote from: Four Eyed Floyd on May 08, 2009, 08:16:03 PM
Just got my 1851 RM today, haven't even had a chance to shoot it yet.
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb280/FourEyedFloyd/51RM.jpg)

Hi boss, I'm, uh sick, I uh got this swine flu thing, and uh need a day off.

Then off ta the range!!!

Nice gun, let us know how it shoots.

Quote from: Four Eyed Floyd on May 08, 2009, 08:16:03 PM
Just got my 1851 RM today, haven't even had a chance to shoot it yet.
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb280/FourEyedFloyd/51RM.jpg)

Looks like mine.  ;D

I love it, it's one of my FAV-o-ryte toys!

I just picked up this New Model. Delivered Dec 1864. Covered in inspector marks. about 80% Blue, mint bore, mint nipples, full blue in cylinders, probably never issued or fired. Super tight action. 100% case color on hammer. No metal wear just blue wear, probably from handling and playing over the past 145 years.

I though yall might enjoy the pics.

(http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq288/glasgowcoin/FHG-1141-10.jpg)

(http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq288/glasgowcoin/FHG-1141-11.jpg)

Quite a beauty! ;D

That is sweet.  Not many of us are fortunate enough ta have "the real deal".

Gotta ask, are gonna shoot it?  I don't know if I could resist.

Yea, I shot it. It was like going back in time... ;D ;D ;D

I have several original Civil War carbines, muskets, and pistols, and I have shot them all, at least once.

-Ed

That's a fine one there.  I can see why you'd want ta change the grips.  I'm sure you'll be having lots of fun with that one.

I recently purchased a Military Model 3rd Model Dragoon w/shoulder stock off of GunBroker.  It hit the doorstep today.  The pistol was made by Armi San Marco in 1977.  At first glance, it looks to be in very good condition.  Metal was dry as a bone.  A little surface rust in the cyl notches, around the nipples and on the barrel; but nothing that a little RB-17 and 0000 steel wool won't fix.  Bore is dirty; but in excellent shape,  Nipples are in good shape, no mushrooming and only the faintest hint of nipple mark on the hammer face.  All in all - damn fine shaper for a pistol that's 32 years old and probably hasnt seen any oil in a decade.

First thing I did was cycle the action.  Boy, was that a dissapointment.  Action was terrible, and hammer hung up when the trigger was pulled.  So, I proceeded to break it down.  When I pulled the barrel off, the cylinder fell off, Bolt doesn't hold very well.  In looking at it, it looks like it's a little too short coming through the window.

Found out why the action was so bad, hammer spring screw was only screwed in about half way.  Only thing that kept it in cocntact with the hammer was the grips.  After tightening the hammer spring screw, I put the grips & backstrap back on.  Thats when I found out why the screw was loose.  The hammer spring musta come from an overload spring on a 1 ton or 2 ton truck.  It was all I could do to cock it one handed.  That'll need some lightening.

The shoulder stock furniture is brass - It just has a lot of patina.  I'm not sure if this is the stock that ASM sold with them in the 70s.  The brass around the hammer slot & the underside is too clean, so it may be an Army/Navy stock that was machined to fit.

I havent striped it down totally - yet.  That will come after I run a few cylinders full through it - with and without the shoulder stock.  I plan is to take it out tomorrow sometime and seeing what it will do.  Will save the tune-up for after the first shooting session.

Here are the first pictures of it

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/100_1779.jpg)

Front leaf on sight flipped up:

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/100_1780.jpg)

With stock attached:

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/100_1781.jpg)

Very Nice Fingers!  Just because of the novelty alone.  You gonna do your Lee Van Cleef impersonation at your next match?
~Mako

Quote from: Mako on June 02, 2009, 12:11:15 AM
You gonna do your Lee Van Cleef impersonation at your next match?
~Mako

Ya never know  ::)

Here's a couple new ones for the gallery...
1865 Rogers&Spencer .45Colt Conversion
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/Rogers%20and%20Spencer/RS45ColtRD.jpg)
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/Rogers%20and%20Spencer/RogersSpencerConversion.jpg)
1863 Starr Single Action Army .44
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/Starr/1858StarrCaps2.jpg)
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/Starr/1858StarrSkull.jpg)
Other than gettin' ready to go shoot these two...I'm bored to death and bakin' in the Sun.
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/Bad%20to%20the%20Bone/Bad2.jpg)

Quote from: Smokin_Gun on June 02, 2009, 09:49:44 PM
Here's a couple new ones for the gallery...
1865 Rogers&Spencer .45Colt Conversion
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/Rogers%20and%20Spencer/RS45ColtRD.jpg)
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/Rogers%20and%20Spencer/RogersSpencerConversion.jpg)
1863 Starr Single Action Army .44
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/Starr/1858StarrCaps2.jpg)
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/Starr/1858StarrSkull.jpg)
Other than gettin' ready to go shoot these two...I'm bored to death and bakin' in the Sun.
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/Bad%20to%20the%20Bone/Bad2.jpg)

Howdy Smokin Gun! Name's Ridgway
Love that Rogers and Spencer Conversion, you don't see too many of those. :'( That Starr Revolver is pretty nice but I'm alittle fuzzy on the reloading procedure.

QuoteLove that Rogers and Spencer Conversion, you don't see too many of those.  That Starr Revolver is pretty nice but I'm alittle fuzzy on the reloading procedure.

I like the R&S pretty accurate Re I must say ... the Star Loads like the rest, onlt thing differant is the break top to remove or replace the cylinder...
And thanks,
SG

Quote from: Smokin_Gun on July 04, 2009, 07:08:30 AM
I like the R&S pretty accurate Re I must say ... the Star Loads like the rest, onlt thing differant is the break top to remove or replace the cylinder...
And thanks,
SG

Is there a particular part that needs to be removed before you can reload the Starr?

Fingers have you shot that Dragoon yet?

We need a report!  Sorry if I missed it somewhere.

~Mako

QuoteIs there a particular part that needs to be removed before you can reload the Starr?

No part needs to be removed to load the Star ... a thumb screw has to be removed to break open the Starr and remove the cylinder...
::)

My fastdraw '51 Navy .36 with a fluted cylinder and 5" G&G bbl...
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/GunsNholsters/Colt1851fluted5inchroundbbl.jpg)
Size ciomparison to a Pocket Police .36
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(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/GunsNholsters/ColtsCompare3.jpg)

Quote from: Smokin_Gun on July 05, 2009, 11:42:38 PM
No part needs to be removed to load the Star ... a thumb screw has to be removed to break open the Starr and remove the cylinder...
::)

That's it the Thumb Screw! Now you said it has to be removed. Does it have to be removed from the gun entirely? ???

A friend got these pics of me this weekend at a high rate of fire.  The first was from another take showing a spark falling into the pan before ignition, but he didn't capture anything else.  The next ones are all from the same firing.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/niemoller/Rev%20War/IMG_3563.jpg)
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To keep this cowboy... Here are my Darksider guns, however, I'm embarrassed to admit that I haven't gotten around to playing with two of them yet. :-[

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l36/Trinity-The_Chicory_Kid/Firearms/OpenTop002.jpg)

There is somethin special about them 51's.  The 60's have sleeker lines an I'd love one, but there's just somethin bout the older design that draws my attention. 
Nice collection.

Trinity,
I'll bet the Dance is one of them.  I've been wanting to ask someone about the caps geting mispositioned before the barrel..  Interesting and a bit different group.

Is that Dance cylinder sans roll engraving as well?  I have a pair of Leech and Rigdons (with Colt style Roll engraving) and I keep hoping I'll find some slick cylinders someday.

~Mako

LUCKY!!!!

Quote from: Appalachian Ed on May 19, 2009, 09:26:41 PM
Yea, I shot it. It was like going back in time... ;D ;D ;D

I have several original Civil War carbines, muskets, and pistols, and I have shot them all, at least once.

-Ed

good picks Trinity

Mako,

That's interesting that your Leech and Rigdons have roll engraving on the cylinders.  Mine doesn't.  If I had a digital camera I'd take a pic of it and post it.

Ransom Gaer

Quote from: Ransom Gaer on July 08, 2009, 07:18:54 PM
Mako,

That's interesting that your Leech and Rigdons have roll engraving on the cylinders.  Mine doesn't.  If I had a digital camera I'd take a pic of it and post it.

Ransom Gaer

Well Uh.....That's right!!!  That's because they are the special edition commemoratives of the time when Southern Agents stole cylinders from Colt to be used on the L&Rs.  I really don't appreciate them as much as I should.  Maybe a fine connoisseur such as you needs them more than just a shooter as I.  I guess I could force myself to trade with you... ;D

Actually I've been looking for some plain cylinders for some time now.


Regards,
Mako

Quote from: Trinity on July 06, 2009, 05:10:35 PM
A friend got these pics of me this weekend at a high rate of fire.  The first was from another take showing a spark falling into the pan before ignition, but he didn't capture anything else.  The next ones are all from the same firing.

Nice pics Trinity... just curious though, how high is "the rate of fire" on your musket?  Is that measured in rounds per minute, or rounds per 10 minutes?

Quote from: River City John on July 08, 2009, 11:25:44 PM
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o26/RiverCityJohn/DSCF0919.jpg

I had the scene removed from my cylinder then refinished because I could not locate a plain cylinder on the after-market sources either. Added the "Leech & Rigdon" on the top barrel flat. This is the most natural pointing revolver I own.
RCJ  

John,
Thank you so very much for sharing that picture with us.  I had considered that but I was not sure How deep the engraving really was or if it would clean up and leave the cylinder notches with sufficient depth.  I especially like the Leech & Rigdon Stamp, very nicely done.  I've seen them facing port and starboard, with and without the CSA at the end.

How was the engraving removed?  On a lathe?  With a cut or simply filed and then blended?

Regards,
Mako

I believe the majority was removed using a cutter on a lathe by very shallow pass, then smoothed with crocus cloth and final polish. Afterwards the entire piece stripped and re-blued giving a lighter blue-gray blued surface and polished on a buffing wheel. Grips stripped and stained a slightly darker walnut, then oiled.

I changed out the nipples to Treso, dressed the hammer face back somewhat, installed a bit stiffer hammer spring and opened up the rear sight-notch atop the hammer.

RCJ

Quote from: Thai Fighter on July 08, 2009, 10:53:10 PM
Nice pics Trinity... just curious though, how high is "the rate of fire" on your musket?  Is that measured in rounds per minute, or rounds per 10 minutes?

Stardard for those are 4 rounds a minute with a smooth bore flinter, 3 rounds per minute with a rifed caplock musket, and the Sgt would make you pratice and practice till you got it right.   ;)

Great pictures Trinity, you also know you have another shotgun if you want to chase a few quail. ;D

Myself I'd have to load some of the buck and ball loads and put them on paper.  One ball with 3 buckshot on top, was hard on the guys in the other line. ::)

Quote from: Leo Tanner on July 06, 2009, 08:46:30 PM
There is somethin special about them 51's.  The 60's have sleeker lines an I'd love one, but there's just somethin bout the older design that draws my attention. 
Nice collection.

The '60 is on sale at Cabela's right now.  Might just add it to the collection. ;D

Quote from: Mako on July 06, 2009, 11:03:56 PM
Trinity,
I'll bet the Dance is one of them.  I've been wanting to ask someone about the caps geting mispositioned before the barrel..  Interesting and a bit different group.

Is that Dance cylinder sans roll engraving as well?  I have a pair of Leech and Rigdons (with Colt style Roll engraving) and I keep hoping I'll find some slick cylinders someday.

~Mako

Yes, the round barrel is a Dance and it has a smooth cylinder.  I have yet to have any problems with the caps, but then I don't get to shoot as much as some of you.  It's suggested to use #11, but like so many, I found those too loose and use #10 instead.

Quote from: Thai Fighter on July 08, 2009, 10:53:10 PM
Nice pics Trinity... just curious though, how high is "the rate of fire" on your musket?  Is that measured in rounds per minute, or rounds per 10 minutes?

;D I was referring to the camera, definitely not the musket. :D :D  In re-reading my post, I realize that wasn't clear. :-[

I love that L&R, RCJ!

Quote from: Delmonico on July 09, 2009, 07:04:11 PM
...

Myself I'd have to load some of the buck and ball loads and put them on paper.  One ball with 3 buckshot on top, was hard on the guys in the other line. ::)

Or rocks... or nails... or other bits of metal. ;D

Here's my contribution to the pot. :)
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Howdy, first time poster here, so I thought I'd start out with a bang.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/BlackPowderPulp/10_2_2008_7_53_PM_0001.jpg)

'60 Colt, with a bit of added pyrotechnic substance.

And my 10 gauge:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/BlackPowderPulp/10_2_2008_7_53_PM_0007.jpg)

And my Walker:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/BlackPowderPulp/WrongendofaWalker_0001.jpg)

Some folks on another forum found this photo disturbing.  I will delete it if anyone here feels the same way.

I was using a remote camera on a tripod, no body in harm's way.

That pic of your 60 Colt is impressive. What kind of pyro..... mix? I've done some front line pics like your Walker pic in the past at MG shoots, and got a lot of negative reactions too. Seems lot's of folks never heard of remote cameras and tripods. The greatest risk was losing the camera to FMJ's  ;) As long as you mention tht, most reasonable people won't think they can sit in front of the firing line and take a picture.  ::)

Some folks won't sit in front of a camera at all.  They say it'll capture the soul, and never let it go. 

Same folk are probably afraid of being hit by the bullet in a shot like the one above.

WM

Quote from: Dirty Brass on August 31, 2009, 08:00:48 AM
What kind of pyro..... mix?

If I remember correct that particular load had some ground up sparkler compound in it.  Not finely ground, more like about Fg gunpowder.
And the gunpowder is my homemade stuff.

The 10 gauge load had a tablespoon or so of Coffeemate powder where the shot should have been.  Coffeemate is quite flammable.  I learned that from Mythbusters.

Cool pics!

Ouch!!!  There goes my left eye. :(

8)

Here the picture

I did something wrong I guess, I meant "here's the picture".
A link to my youtube channel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6bCuh4n0CA

Only blackpowder in my guns.

Greetz

Here's all my handgun smokers:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/BlackPowderPulp/HPIM1054.jpg)

with a couple of knives thrown in.  Bottom knife was made by Knifemaker (Chuck Dominy), top one by a friend of mine.

Here's my Albert Greener 10 gauge:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/BlackPowderPulp/HPIM0911.jpg)

Hey there Four Eyes

Your Youtube link is pretty kick ass.  That would be ideal as a side match or tie breaker.   

A couple new ones recently acquired.  One of these days have to get some originals!

(http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo347/realtordoug_photos/capandballguns.jpg)

1861 Colt Navy Officer's Model Conversion .38Colt/spl
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/Colts/MyNavyConv1.jpg)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/Colts/MyNavyConv4.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/Colts/MyNavyConv8.jpg

Hey Smokin' Gun, do those .38 shells fall out with little to no trouble?

At the moment unfired they do... haven't fired it yet. I'm sure they'll be soot up and need assistance... have a lil heavy pocket rod for extractin'... clean empties fall out.

Got ta have that rod!  The BP really likes ta swell the brass, especially if it's been around the block a few times.

Quote from: Ridgway Texican Ranger on November 11, 2009, 09:59:17 AM
Hey Smokin' Gun, do those .38 shells fall out with little to no trouble?

have you tried using one of these?


http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=651/Product/FLEX_HONE_RIFLE_POLISHING_SYSTEM

A few new photos.  Not to much new happening other than my shoulder stocked Dragoon.
The 2nd and 3rd gen collection.
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/madcratebuilder/mycolts0709.jpg)

cased sets and strange things.
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/madcratebuilder/belgiumcolt01.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/madcratebuilder/texasdragoon1.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/madcratebuilder/fluteddragoon01.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/madcratebuilder/fluted186001.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/madcratebuilder/mycase04.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/madcratebuilder/asmdragoon02.jpg)

dang!   :o

DANG INDEED! :D :o

I love the 51's..; that is until I see a 60.  Wonderful collection.

A grand collection MCB...

Quote from: Pulp on August 31, 2009, 01:25:29 AM
And my Walker:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/BlackPowderPulp/WrongendofaWalker_0001.jpg)

Some folks on another forum found this photo disturbing.  I will delete it if anyone here feels the same way.

I was using a remote camera on a tripod, no body in harm's way.

Some people find EVERYTHING DISTURBING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Almost to the point of  using safety to put us out of the game.

(http://www.bnincustomers.com/~rloucks/Misc/BP2.jpg)

(http://www.bnincustomers.com/~rloucks/Misc/BP3.jpg)

(http://www.bnincustomers.com/~rloucks/Misc/BP4.jpg)

(http://www.bnincustomers.com/~rloucks/Misc/BP5.jpg)

Howdy Y'all
I just rejoined CASS City and it's nice to be back.  Here is a pic of me in Idaho, 2007 at El Buscadero's.  I shot Gunfighter then and it is my right hand pistol letting go.  I now shoot NCOWS here in Texas and love these snowless winters.  HAHA  Better than the 92 inches I waded through last year up North.

Quote from: Johnny Thundergun on December 11, 2009, 07:46:01 PM
Howdy Y'all
I just rejoined CASS City and it's nice to be back.  Here is a pic of me in Idaho, 2007 at El Buscadero's.  I shot Gunfighter then and it is my right hand pistol letting go.  I now shoot NCOWS here in Texas

Hey, where's that at?

Quote...love these snowless winters.  HAHA  Better than the 92 inches I waded through last year up North.

And, depending on yer location in TX, is that still working out for ya?

Thought you'd all like to see my latest acquisitions.  The Case and upper pistol are new, the accessories and lower pistol I've had a while:
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/DSCN0208.jpg)

The case is a Second Generation Colt French fitted presentation case with the Colt logo on the lid.  The top 1860 is a 1985 vintage Uberti Stainless Steel 1860 Army that was imported by Allen Firearms, Sant Fe, NM.  The bottom 1860 is a 2nd Gen made in 1982 and the accessories are all 2nd Gen Colt.  

One thing I noticed right away about the pistols was the Uberti is highly polished while the Colt is matte finished.

I'd love to have another Allen Firearms 1860 to put in this case.  And would like to find more of the stainless Allen Firearms Ubertis that were imported.  They made five different models between about 1982 and 1985.  I've got 2 - the 1851 Navy & 1860 Army - and would love to find the other three - 1861 Navy, Pocket Navy, and Pocket Police.

Anyone know where there are any - please let me know.

Fingers

PS - Thanks Madcratebuilder for the case and natchezjim for tfinding the pistol for me.

Hadn't visited this thread in a long while.   I used to be on "dial up connection" and the pictures took forever.  Have high speed wireless now.  Lot of great shootin' irons.  Thanks to all for posting 'em up.  

Can't really figure how to put the pictures in here.  But click the link and see a few Remingtons of mine and some other shootin' stuff as well. . . .
www.drburkholter.com/cf6.html (http://www.drburkholter.com/cf6.html)

Good shootin', . . .  :)

I have had this shotgun for several years and decided to bring it out and shoot it with the "magic black".  It is an original U.S. Arms, Made in Belgium, laminated steel barrels, backlock action external hammer locks, and side lever opening.  It is as tight as a drum and the bores are shiny as new; exterior of the barrels has a beautiful brown patina with the curl in the steel.  Stock is walnut with some curl; checkering is there but is somewhat flat pointed, no cracks in the wood.  Barrels are 28", 2 1/2" chambers.

The most I can find out about it is that in the late 1800's and early 1900's, many U.S. companies imported Belgium made shotguns under their own labels.  I read about U.S. Arms somewhere, but like a dummie, did not download and save the info.  Any info some of you may have would be greatly appreciated.

Am going to load Magtech brass shells with BP.  Since the Magtechs are longer than 2 1/2, do I have to trim them? [Actually they are designed for 2 1/2" chambers, so I found out] They slip right in easily.  I slid a 2 3/4 Winchester shell in to test chamber length, and you can feel a "bump" when it reaches about 2 1/2 inches.  Not so with the brass.   I am in no hurry.  The snow here in Virginia has brought everything to a slowdown and I'm bored.

Thanks for letting me share.

MJJ

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Beautiful "shotty"...feel yer pain with the snow

Now that there is a pretty specimen! It looks remarkably similar to a JPMoore & Sons I picked up years back as a wall hangar, but yours is in beautiful condition. Nice! ;)

I have cabin fever due to all this snow, so I went to Borders Books to hang out while my wife ran some errands. Got a short "edumacation" by reading Flayderman's Guide to Antique American Firearms and Their Values.

Seems that Garrison Joe (on the Wire) was right on the money, "Sounds like a Belgian trade gun, imported by H. and D. Folsom Company of New York, imported and sold as a fairly cheap double in the 1890s." It seems that H. and D. Folsom Co. imported Belgium shotguns and had the distributor's names put on them, for instance Sears, Montgomery Wards, a particular hardware store, or department store. H. and D. also imported them with their own "brand", U.S.Arms Co., for distribution to stores not wanting their name on them.

Many of these shotguns were "cheap" in the respect that their target buyer were hunters - field/utility grades, but were still well built and not "cheap" in quality. Others were an attempt to duplicate features of higher priced shotguns, to which prices reflected those features, eg. higher grades of wood, engraving, or "damascus patterns". Fladerman's also goes into different features - pros and cons. Backlock actions, for example, may have been less expensive, but not necessarily inferior. Side levers were just one "style" that gave way to top levers, again not necessarily "cheap", just different.

The term "damascus" is given to the type of manufacture - patterns and material varied. This was how barrels were made with the technology of the time - again not cheap, suitable for the BP cartridges of the time. They just could not handle the pressures of the new smokeless powder.

Obviously, quality was dependent on the manufacturer/supplier to H. and D. It was noted that H. and D. Folsom Company of New York was one of the largest importers of shotguns in the U.S., especially from Belgium, to which many were utility grade. Lack of basic quality, like delamination of barrels, would not allow the company to continue selling the quantities they sold. Plus Sears and Wards had a reputation to uphold.

From descriptions of features, my shotgun was very probably manufactured prior to 1900. The fact that it has lasted all these years and still locks and operates as it should attests to it's quality - for its application - BP. NEVER SHOOT SMOKELESS IN THESE SHOTGUNS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT DESIGNED FOR THAT APPLICATION. Flayderman's states that some of the best manufacturers continued with damascus barrels FOR BLACK POWDER into the 1900's, even as fluid steels became common.

Sorry for the long winded response, but I had to write it down before I forgot. 

Thanks to you all.  ;D

MJJ

That sure is a fine lookin' under-lever double, pard!

Have fun shootin the black stuff.  You'll look like you stepped right out of an old photo!

My 1851 Navy and Confederate gun belt.

(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj32/WilliamTheConqueror/picsofkitties017.jpg)

Howdy Mr. Ruffian,
you sure that is a '51?  Sure looks like a round barrel and it's a little hard to tell from the pic but looks kind of like a rebated cylinder as well.

Abilene,

Ya know, they make a .44 cal. with those features that they call a 51 Navy.  Kinda like calling a pig a cat!  :o  ::)  Nothing wrong with the gun, just what they call it!

I hear ya, Dr. Bob, but all the .44 "1851's" I've seen (Piettas) either have octagonal barrels, or the round barrel models still have the flat-sided back end on the barrel, not the curved '60 or '61 style back end.  Perhaps some other manufacturer makes one, though.  Hey, Border Ruffian, is that Navy a .36 or .44?  Manufacturer?  Just curious.  Looks nice, anyway.  Thanks.

It's definitely an 1860 Army.  Backstrap is blued, not brass, grip is longer than an 1851, cylinder looks to be rebated, and the  frame looks to be cut.

FM

Quote from: Border Ruffian on March 30, 2010, 05:19:48 PM
My 1851 Navy and Confederate gun belt.

(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj32/WilliamTheConqueror/picsofkitties017.jpg)

Holy Cow!!! That is my 1860 Army!!  I copied the wrong image code!!!! Gettin old ain't for sissies!!!!

This should be my 1851 Navy

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Quote from: Border RuffianGettin old ain't for sissies!!!!

I can identify with that.  :o

Latest acquisition, blank cylinder Uberti L&R made in 2007. 

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/LeechRigdon2.jpg)

Now have a pairof them.  The other one is from 1977.  Both of them get shipped off to the gunsmith to get 6 more bolt cuts on the cylinders, defarbed, and remarked like this original Augusta revolver from 1864.

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/AugustaRevolver1.jpg)

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/AugustaRevolver2.jpg)

Quote from: Border Ruffian on April 01, 2010, 04:40:31 PM
This should be my 1851 Navy

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It's a .36 Pietta, late 1990s vintage.

Howdy Lads,

Here is a link to pictures of my .577 Snider Carbine.  This is the Britich version of the Springfield Trapdoor. 

http://www.militaryrifles.com/Britain/PortugeseSnider.htm

You should see the smoke & hear the roar when it lets loose with 60g of 1f under a 500+ grain conical.  It really makes the targets ring.  My favorite Plainsman firearm.

Seamus 

Latest acquisition.   US Army Tribute Colt Model 1851 Navy Percussion. Part of the American Military Colt Collection, that was produced in 1984 by the American Historical Foundation.  There were U.S. Air Force, U.S. Navy, and U.S. Marine Corps tribute revolvers also produced as part of the collection all of which were made from 2nd Gen Colts.  This one is made from a C Series 2nd Generation Colt Percussion revolver that was made in 1977 and is #20 of 100 Army Tribute revolvers produced.  Gun is gold plated except for the screws, wedge, trigger and hammer. 
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/DSCN0339.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/DSCN0320.jpg)

Fingers, that sure is easy on the eyes!  That's outstanding!  Congratulations!  Next question:  what load will you be using?  The 25 grain full-power with conical, or the lighter 17-20 grain loads with the roundball?

:o

::)


;D   ;)    ;)

Quote from: Steel Horse Bailey on May 04, 2010, 06:08:44 AM
Fingers, that sure is easy on the eyes!  That's outstanding!  Congratulations!  Next question:  what load will you be using?  The 25 grain full-power with conical, or the lighter 17-20 grain loads with the roundball?

:o

::)


;D   ;)    ;)

I was thinking the conical might be the way to go with this one.  Of course, they'll be gold plated  ;D

Well, I'll see if I can post a couple of pictures without embarrassing myself this time.  This is a restored 1874 Sharps sporting rifle caliber 40-70 BN, 24 1/2 inch 1/2 octagon 1/2 round barrel.

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/loosenock/sharps011.jpg)

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/loosenock/sharps018.jpg)

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/loosenock/sharps022.jpg)

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/loosenock/sharps016.jpg)

Hopefully they come out.

'Drifter

Absolutely gorgeous, Drifter!

Looks great, Why did the 1874 models have a patchbox?  I thought those were only needed on the percussion models.

I'm with you Ruffian.  I thought the same way.  The rifle is an original Sharps, but I dont think it is original to the way it was shipped from the factory.  I've came to accept that stocks could have been swapped out.  The rifle is what, 130 years old?  Alot could have been replaced in those years. 

Thanks for your comments gents,

'Drifter

It was a matter of esthetics, gents.  That was not at all uncommon, back in the transition era.  The riflemen of the day were used to seeing a patchbox (and were handy to carry more than just patches in them) so several of the rifles made during the changeover from percussion to cartridge had the decorative patchboxes included.  The "Officer's Model" of the Trapdoor Springfield had the same.  As did the H&R reproductions.

Ruffian, you said the KEY part:  "I thought those were only needed on the percussion models."

Needed, vs. wanted.

Drifter, I think you'll find that it was NOT added at a later date, rather it may have been REPLACED back to original configuration.


I'm not an expert, but from what I've seen in my research, the Officer's Model of many of these different rifles included the patchbox, as well as SOME of the first cartridge models AFTER the percussion guns.

I found out more about my Sharps today.  It is called an "A" model.  It mas made between 1879-1882.  This is a time when Sharps was in financial trouble and assembled rifles with parts on hand.  Most of the rifles were sold to J.P. Lower and Carlos Grove, two gun outiftters in Denver at the time.  This one was one of Lower's.  The 24 1/2" half octagon barrel is correct for an "A" model.  Along with the forestock and butt stock.  The patchbox could certainly come with an "A" model also.  There is a letter "A" cartouche on one of the side plates of the action.  Makes me feel some better now that I know a little more about it.

'Drifter

Quote from: Desert Drifter on May 15, 2010, 06:15:02 PM
I found out more about my Sharps today.  It is called an "A" model.  It mas made between 1879-1882.  This is a time when Sharps was in financial trouble and assembled rifles with parts on hand.  Most of the rifles were sold to J.P. Lower and Carlos Grove, two gun outiftters in Denver at the time.  This one was one of Lower's.  The 24 1/2" half octagon barrel is correct for an "A" model.  Along with the forestock and butt stock.  The patchbox could certainly come with an "A" model also.  There is a letter "A" cartouche on one of the side plates of the action.  Makes me feel some better now that I know a little more about it.

'Drifter

It's REALLY interesting when you can find out history this specific about your OWN gun!  Cool!

That is also an outstanding restoration job.  The stamping is not degraded one bit.  I've seen re-dos were the preservation of the roll stamping was the last thing in mind. 

Here's my Uberti 1849 Pocket.

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a274/DinoBonanno/1849UbertiPocket.jpg)

And here's the same gun with faux ivory grips. 

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a274/DinoBonanno/DSC03628.jpg)

I've been looking at different conversion cylinder options and will probably go with a Kirst, when they become available again.  :)

Here's one I been workin' on...1861 Colt Navy w/ special order 5 1/2" bbl Pietta,/Kirst 38spl...I like i like this :O)
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/2010%20Summer/61Navy38spl.jpg)
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/2010%20Summer/1861ColtNavyKonverted.jpg)
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Another 6 weeks till I can shoot left handed again. Resent njury/surgeries...
But I lik this lil' gal ... will get me practice with my right hand, arm and eye...

LOVE that loading gate, Smokin Gun!  
Did you cut that channel yourself?

Howdy Pards,

After a year of having hardly any time to think of guns cuz work's been crazy I picked up a Remington 1875 from EMF this week.  Going out to the back yard and try it out right after this post :)

Here it is with some 24 gr backyard loads of fffg and flax seed filler with JP200's.  Everything seems right with it, cant wait to shoot it.

EDIT:  I wasn't exactly ready but because EMF isn't going to offer them anymore I grabbed the second.

(http://nhwoodworker.com/Gallery/remington_1875ssm.jpg)

I shoot a matched pair of USFA's in 44-40, 7.5" (first ones to ever go north of the 49th) 'n' a pair of 1858 Remington C&B. Got a '73 Winchester from Uberti in 44-40, a Brazilian 20 Ga, 'n' a old Belgium 12 Ga  open hammer.

Ain't none of 'em ever tasted nothin' but Holy Black!

P.S. I'm too lazy to post pictures - ya wanna see 'em, go look 'em up!

Hey Jane, nice to see ya.  Rink not open yet?  :D

These are my Colts

Quote from: madcratebuilder on November 15, 2009, 07:07:50 PM
A few new photos.  Not to much new happening other than my shoulder stocked Dragoon.
The 2nd and 3rd gen collection.
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/madcratebuilder/mycolts0709.jpg)

cased sets and strange things.
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I remember when EMF offered the long barreled Dragoon with the shoulder stock, they also offered it in a set with a standard length and Sheriffs length barrel. I emailed them about it and nobody at EMF remembered it. It was in the mid eighties...

Latest pair of revolvers.  1864 C.H. Rigdon, CSA, Augusta Revolvers.

The pair:
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/DSCN0493.jpg)

Revolver 1
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Revolver 2
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/DSCN0501.jpg)

Close-up of 2:
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Another closeup of #2
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Got this lil' Thunderer Model 1877 Colt made in 1878 .41Colt CF(or Long Colt) with a Colt letter...
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/01A%20My%20Collection/1877%20Colt%20Lightning%2041caliber/1877Colt188341Lightning11.jpg)
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Dang!!  Now I gotta wipe the drool off of my shirt!!! ::) ;D  That's a beauty for sure.  ;D

Thanks Doc ... I truely am pleased with acquiring this one  :P  And I do have some ammo bein' custom made for it  8)

That is one fine piece of hardware.  I lost about 10 minutes staring at the pictures.

Quote from: Dr. Bob on December 01, 2010, 10:25:00 PM
Dang!!  Now I gotta wipe the drool off of my shirt!!! ::) ;D  That's a beauty for sure.  ;D

That is a fine looking weapon...druel droool drewl drool

I shot my not so fancy thunderer this morning.

Picked this up a couple weeks ago.  Wish it would warm up enough to go try it out.

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/Engraved61Navy1.jpg)

I am almost speechless when looking at that one. WOW. Beautiful .

Fingers if ya wanna bring it over here to the Mojave Desert and shoot it I'd be glad you put ya up here... I got a couple myself I'd like ta shoot.
Ifin ya ever make it out this way in yur travels please be sure to look me up and we'll hit the Range and Make Smoke.

An afternoon with some friends...
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Quote from: Smokin Gun on December 12, 2010, 02:42:53 AM
Fingers if ya wanna bring it over here to the Mojave Desert and shoot it I'd be glad you put ya up here... I got a couple myself I'd like ta shoot.
Ifin ya ever make it out this way in yur travels please be sure to look me up and we'll hit the Range and Make Smoke.

Thanks SG.  I'll keep that invite in mind - Iffn I ever get that far west again.

This is my GW2 in .45 Colt with Tru-Ivory Grips and the 1860 Colt Grip frame

(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m53/Grapeshot_2006/012.jpg)    
This set up has my EMF Dakota,(Jaeger), also in .45 Colt with Tru-Ivory grips on an 1860 Colt Army Frame.(http://)

(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m53/Grapeshot_2006/011.jpg)

Grapeshot,
A pair of handsome pistols.  You are right to be proud. 

I prefer Army grips as well, I'm curious, do you have large hands?

Regards,
Mako

Nicely done Grapeshot ... I like I like the look and feel too. Great pic with the Saber, Uniform and, gear too...

(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m53/Grapeshot_2006/Rossi12gaCoachgun002.jpg)

This is my primary black powder double.  It's a Rossi 12 gauge I bought back in 1983.  It has seen a lot of action and still locks up tighter than a drum.

New additions to the Armory.  Unfired nickel plated 1851 Navies with consecutive serial numbers.  Made in 1970, imported by FIE, with original boxes.

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/FIEPair1.jpg)

VERY nice.


And that is to all y'all!  Some really fine hardware shown here!

Here are a couple of my Remington's. Top a .45 with early Kirst conversion cylinder; bottom a .38 with lined barrel and R&D conversion cylinder:

(http://i53.tinypic.com/2q8pli8.jpg)

Quote from: Bishop Creek on January 30, 2011, 02:30:37 PM
Here are a couple of my Remington's. Top a .45 with early Kirst conversion cylinder; bottom a .38 with lined barrel and R&D conversion cylinder:

(http://i15.tinypic.com/5yis55c.jpg)

Sweet!  8)

Quote from: Fingers McGee on February 03, 2011, 11:46:43 AM
Sweet!  8)

Thanks!  Thought I'd add another, this is my Pietta "Deluxe Shooters Revolver" a replica 1858 Remington with silver plated trigger guard and authentic barrel markings:

(http://i55.tinypic.com/10r1gz8.jpg)

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This is my American Frontier Firearms 1851 Richards .38 conversion made circa 1998:

(http://i52.tinypic.com/o06o88.jpg)

Don't know if I posted this before, but I pulled this used rifle off of layaway just in time to put it under the Christmas Tree ... and Walks Under Buffalo has graciously offered to teach me about Black Powder so that I don't do somehing REALLY stupid with it the first time .... and I am going to take my  ROAs out at the same time ....

Good! You will find shooting black powder a most delightful experience. The "BOOM" and flames, the smoke; it will make you feel a kinship with the old-timers from the 19th Century. Most folks that I have run into that don't understand black powder shooting are turned off by the clean up of the firearms after shooting. It is actually a piece of cake. You don't need fancy solvents or cleaning solutions, just warm water and some good swabbing. I used to pour warm water down the barrel of my flintlock and then pour it out, swab, repeat. It's that easy.

Bishop,


Although I have been around cartidge weapons all my life, black powder is altoghether new for me .... and a bit scarey too.

Having been a medic for so long, I still go by the 'first, do no wrong' idea, and is nice to know that I will have somebody what is right and wrong ....I also have some non-ball ammmo for the .44 Ruger Old Armies that I have been wanting to try out ....

Not to worry. Black powder is actually more forgiving than smokeless. The ROA is a good choice, They are very sturdy revolvers.

Here is the one I used to shoot. Sold it a few years ago as the brightness attracted hostiles to my location.

(http://i53.tinypic.com/2efqcn5.jpg)

Bishop Creek,

I bought two without knowing much about then except that they were built like tanks ... better than our Shermans LOL.

It turns out that they fit a couple of Schofeld holsters that Will Ghromly made that I cannot use at my local club ...seems our club has a rule that supercedes SASS about no double forward rigs. So now they will be used when I play an old Pinkerton providin' security while riding the railroad gold shipments in and out of Sacramento (circa 1880) ...

Don't think that I would want to mess with that hombre!!  ::) :D ;D

In the 1860s, if I was actually guarding a load of gold, I would probably be carrying a 10 ga Coach Gun and a Wimchester ... both shooting BP cartridges ....

But like Sac's saying in the 1960s, that 'Peace Was Our Profession" , an appropriate subtiltel could have been TR's 'Walk Softly and Carry a Big Stick'.

*S*

WWE, can you find period spectacles to complete the look?

There's a lot of good info here.  WWE, you look fine.  If you shoot NCOWS the Rugers, however great that they ARE, should be replaced with some other replica BP shooters.  Don't get me wrong, I'm just suggesting, NOT criticizing!  I can't see the picture that shows the glasses mentioned by our pard, Santeen, but reasonable oval-shaped glasses with magnification (the standard reading-glasses type) can be had usually for less that $50 or even less (I bought some that were 1.5 magnification for $25.)  River Junction is a good place to start. 

Bishop Creek is absolutely correct that BP is more forgiving ... than ANY other powder.  Basically, you can't put enough powder in a pistol case to over-load it.  That goes for the Cap'n Ball guns as well.  As for the Ruger, there is a great pard who posts regularly here on CAS City who was curious about how strong his Ruger Old Army was.  It is my understanding that he filled the chambers with as much 4F BP as would fit and let go.  If I have the story right, it actually turned it into a semi-auto firearm, by blowing the caps off of the nipples with such force that it actually re-cocked the hammer!!
:o

Scary, but with NO damage to him, bystanders, or the gun ... which he's continued to use - and that happened many years ago!  (But don't ask him to do it again!)
;)

By the way, guarding gold with a 10 ga. and a rifle is a MUCH better idea than just pistols!

Have fun and breathe deeply to appreciate the fragrance of BP being fired and seeing  the great clouds of billowing white smoke and flames that ONLY comes from real BP!

The glasses are close enough that they will have to stay ...they are presciption and bought before I got involved in SASS. They look okay until they star to change to a darker color .... and I am told by the reenactment people that the only reason people wore dark glasses was that the drugs used to treat uh, 'Social Diseases' cause bright light to be very painful. So dark glasses was like announcing to the world that one had been treated or was being treated for the 'gift that goes on giving' ... who'd a thunk?

The ROAs are only rarely used when I need a 1880s look .... I don't compete with them at all ... and have never shot NCOWS.

For 1850s reenactment, I portray a traveling Don just come into Sacramento... and I wear the duds in the profile pic ...the pistol is a 'gun that never was' ... a '51 Colt [read early Pietta] in .44 cal. .... the holster is a copy [by Will Ghomley] of a Maine and Winchester Slim Jim .... with a leaf pattern found in 'Packing Iron'

The belt was remade for me by Chuck Burrows from a belt that was never picked up .... and again the only time it will see any of the Holy Black is during reenactments ...

(http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab107/WaddWatsonEllis/BlackPowderRigwith51Colt.jpg)

WWE, there is one more reason ... perhaps even MORE often encountered, that they used darkened lenses  "back in the day" , but it also involves primarily a blue shade.  Professional "card sharps" (or at least the pros who CHEATED) wore blue shades because there were card decks sold and ink as well, so that the cards could be written on .... using the ink either printed from the factory or written by hand to tell what the card was.  It was another form of "marked" decks.

I don't know what happened to a gambler who shows up wearing his blue shade after the word got out, but it was a common trick used back then in many places.

Besides - even in NCOWS we actually allow people who have bad eyesight and need prescription lenses to shoot and have fun!  LoL!  Actually, unless you get into the 3rd level (or 4th, depending who you talk to) of authenticity, such modern items are allowed.  Safety glasses are required and that trumps authenticity. 

Have fun!!  By the way, great leather, too!  Chuck does GREAT work!!

Dead on Jeff about the glasses.  When we were kids we would write secret messages that could only be read when covered with a piece of colored cellophane.  I had forgotten all about that and didn't consider that it would be a good way to mark cards until I read about it a few years ago.

Thanks; I will share that trivia about cheating at cards and marked glasses with the group when we meet on the second saturday ...

Cemetery......Whatcha got in the coffin??

(http://cemeterycas.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/photo2.jpg)

A pair of Old Army's.   ;D

Gold Escort, you say? This was taken in 1863.  The notes say that gold shippers preferred the BX stage whose sign is in the background.

Here is my 2nd Generation Colt's 1860 Army .44:

(http://i56.tinypic.com/29glsls.jpg)

Pertiful, Bishop!

Sweet cased set Bishop. 

Here are a few pictures of my latest.  A 1 of 250 Grant/Lee matched pair cased set of 2nd Generation 1851 Navies.  Had a gentleman email me offering the set for sale cause he knew I was a collector.  He was the original owner and had never put the set together.  Everything was still in it's original wrapping and boxes.  He only took the pistols out from time to time to oil them up.  They've never been cocked, and the flask had never been unwrapped.  The pistols and accessories had never been put in the case (till yesterday).  I unwrapped everything, placed the items in the case, photographed the case, then rewrapped and boxed everything back up.  This set will stay as NIB as possible.

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/Misc031.jpg)
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And a few more:

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I had a set exactly like those about 15 years ago.  Obtained them in a trade with the intent to shoot them.  Both pistols had been cocked but no fired.  I looked into what it would have cost to fire them value-wise.  They were traded off on a Colt SAA instead - that got shot - lots.

Still wouldn't mind an 1851 though.

Fingers, that set is awesome!  I'll be happy to shoot them for you!   ::)


And shoot them I would ... if they were mine.  I realize the value would plummet, 'tho.  They are simply too nice to ignore.  'Course, if I had THAT set and another, one set - the one YOU own would stay pristine and unfired.



;D

Nobody lives ferever, chute them things!  Well, I would...
All funnin aside, it is a beaut of a set.

Quote from: Leo TannerNobody lives ferever, chute them things!  Well, I would...

Quote from: Steel Horse BaileyFingers, that set is awesome!  I'll be happy to shoot them for you!

As Mississippi said "I have a host of friends"

While these will stay pristine like the rest of my NIB Colts, I do have other C series 2nd Gen '51 Navies - and F series '61 Navies that I do shoot.  They are very accurate and smooth shooters.

I think I would go buggy lookin at em everyday an never pullin the trigger.  I can hear em whisperin, "Leo, we don't wanna die virgins".

Quote from: Leo Tanner on March 18, 2011, 11:54:55 AM
I think I would go buggy lookin at em everyday an never pullin the trigger.  I can hear em whisperin, "Leo, we don't wanna die virgins".

Yeppir!
;)

Like these:

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Quote from: piebiter on August 12, 2008, 08:25:26 AM
I'm in. ;D (http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/4329/97950050cy0.jpg)

Might short spout or is that just too rude to say???

1867 Rolling Block manufactured in 1883

Fingers, I just loves that bottom carbine! Got my shoulder stock for my '60.

Fer Freightman..........

A reeel nice looking smokepole
I lurv Rollers too.
I hope yer shootin it

Paladin (Whats got bad Cabin Fever  >:( ) UK

Call me crazy but sharps don't move me like a rolling block ...

Is there anyone making a r.45-70 rolling block that could be shot BROWS with about 12-15 #s weight and a  30" Barrel?

I have a Shiloh Sharps and I much prefer the rolling block, but right now it is broke and waiting for a part to be manufactured.

IIRC, Pedersoli have quite a variety for rollers for sale.

Given a choice which would your preference be for a .45-70 rolling block? And is the .30-30 considered a  BROW?

I love my 43 spanish roller.

1879 full military stocked musket rifle.

Now if'n I can ever find a decently priced correct bayonet for it!:)

If you reload - 43 spanish is not that hard of a caliber to load for.

PR

Okay,  when reloading., what do you use for a case, and do you have to modify it?   

And what would you use for a bullet?

Quote from: WaddWatsonEllis on April 03, 2011, 08:26:18 PM
Okay,  when reloading., what do you use for a case, and do you have to modify it?   

And what would you use for a bullet?

Or you can buy loaded .43 Spanish black powder cartridges from Gad Custom Cartridges:

http://www.gadcustomcartridges.com/ (http://www.gadcustomcartridges.com/)

With all respect to Pony Racer, I could never get the bullet close enough to the leade for my 1879 Argie roller to be accurate.  As it had been cut almost to musketoon lenght and lost its collector value I have now had ithe barrel replaced with a Greenmountain #3.5 barrel in .45-70.

These guns were chambered for easy reloading in lousy conditions, and not for accuracy.  The action has been mentioned as desireable for conversion.

The cheapest option is to get a used rifle configured as you wish, and don't fool around with mods.  Spend a lot on good sights and good bullets/moulds.

Sir Charles,

Thanks for the insight ...

I have always liked the rolling block action better than a Sharps, and have always wanted one that could compete Creedmoor style with the Sharps ... and in a perfect world there would be a reproduction rifle that I could afford that would do that ,,, and if it were in smething less punishing than the .45-70 (For my shoulders, though intact, are not getting any younger LOL), well. so much the better ...

Quote from: WaddWatsonEllis on April 03, 2011, 09:03:45 PM
Sir Charles,

,,, and if it were in smething less punishing than the .45-70 (For my shoulders, though intact, are not getting any younger LOL), well. so much the better ...

.38-55, .38-56, .40-60maynard, .40-70, or .40-65 are some alternatives, but only the first and last are factory chambered at present, and I'm not sure by whom.  The .38s are considered marginal for 500 meter silhouettes, and the .40s are not really successes at 1,000 yard (Or so I've heard!) The .30-30 or .30-40 would be OK out to 300 yds, but I don't think they are legal for buffalo shoots. For economic reasons, barring a lottery win, try to stick to used factory offerings.

Sir Charles,

Thanks for the advice on ammo and rounds .... for you are right; the time to commit to a round is BEFORE I buy a rifle and am committed to that round ...

Quote from: WaddWatsonEllis on April 03, 2011, 09:03:45 PM
I have always liked the rolling block action better than a Sharps, and have always wanted one that could compete Creedmoor style with the Sharps ... and in a perfect world there would be a reproduction rifle that I could afford that would do that ,,, and if it were in smething less punishing than the .45-70 (For my shoulders, though intact, are not getting any younger LOL), well. so much the better ...

If you plan to shoot at Creedmoor distances(1,000 yards) unless you want to spend a lot of money or, are good at putting together a rifle, you will need to go with 45 caliber. While 45-70 is acceptable for 1,000 yard shooting 45-90 or bigger would be better but they are not kind to the shoulder.  On the lower end of the scale Pedersoli is making a Rolling Block and Hi-Wall rifle that perform very well.  On the higher end Shiloh Sharps and CPA are making top-of-the-line rifles. 

There has been work done with the 38 caliber for long distances with success.  Fast twist barrels and looong bullets have given good results.  Someone shooting a 38-56 was overall long range winner at one ot the Camp Atterbury matches last year.  Going this route takes money and talent in rifle building.


For distances out to 500 yards,  concern for your shoulder, and cost I would recommend a Pedersoli Rolling Block in 40-65 caliber with the best sights you can afford for it.

Lucky  ;D

Lucky R.K.,

Thanks for the advice ... I will just be shooting SASS with it ... my eyesight and age is against open or peep sights and I don't see that getting any better at age ...

And there is a couple of  big gunshops nearby that I hope to stumble on somebodies unwanted Pedersoli rolling block ... and most probably will go with a .45-70 ... in that way I am a little 'luckier' ... I would imagine that  .45-70 will be the largest pool of used guns ...

Quote from: Fingers McGee on March 17, 2011, 10:40:46 PM
Sweet cased set Bishop. 

Here are a few pictures of my latest.  A 1 of 250 Grant/Lee matched pair cased set of 2nd Generation 1851 Navies.  Had a gentleman email me offering the set for sale cause he knew I was a collector.  He was the original owner and had never put the set together.  Everything was still in it's original wrapping and boxes.  He only took the pistols out from time to time to oil them up.  They've never been cocked, and the flask had never been unwrapped.  The pistols and accessories had never been put in the case (till yesterday).  I unwrapped everything, placed the items in the case, photographed the case, then rewrapped and boxed everything back up.  This set will stay as NIB as possible.


And a few more
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/Misc049.jpg)

In the last photo on the round TG frame model what is stamped on the left side barrel flat "

Quote from: Major 2 on April 12, 2011, 08:32:06 AM
  In the last photo on the round TG frame model what is stamped on the left side barrel flat "

Round Trigger Guard says "Robert E Lee Commemorative Nineteen Seventy-One"

Square backed one says "Ulysses S Grant Commemorative Nineteen Seventy-One"

Fingers,

Nice set.  And for a collector, very desirable.  However, a coupla years ago I ran across a set that HAD been fired, and the gent was willing to part with them for a VERY reasonable fee.  In fact, less than what two standard 2nd gen 1851s would have been, less than even the deals I got on the two that I did buy.  They didn't have the accessories or case any longer, but I really considered them for my shooters, but ultimately, they slide by the way and someone else got them... or at least I hope someone did, as I'd hate to think of them just languishing around in someone's safe... collecting dust... unused... unappreciated.

My reasoning (read excuse), for not getting them to shoot?  Didn't think I could stand having one with a sq trigger guard and one with a round!  I know, feeble... but hey, like I said, it was MY excuse!

I was asked on another forum for a photo shoot of my Confederate revolver repros; so, I decided to post it here as well.  But, before anyone says anything about it.  Yes, I know there are a couple revolvers used by the CSA that have reproductions that are not represented here.  I have yet to add the Spiller and Burr and LeMat to my collection.  They're coming, I just havent gotten them yet.  The third revolver that most everyone will say is missing is the Schneider and Glassick.  One of these days I might get one; but, it wasn't really a CSA revolver.  There were at most 50 of them made and the real figure is probably a lot lower.  In all of the books I have on CSA small arms, the Schneider and Glassick is nothing more than a footnote.  From what I've read, there are only 3 authenticated examples in existence and one of them had an iron fram and round barrel instead of a brass frame and octagonal barrel.  

Anyhow, here's the picture:
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/CSARevolvers004.jpg)
Clockwise from the top:  1864 CH Rigdon made from 2007 Uberti L&R, Navy Arms/Pietta G&G mfg 1997, Navy Arms/GU G&G mfg 1960, Navy Arms/GU G&G mfg 1960(?), Traditions/Pietta Dance Brothers .44 mfg 2007, Navy Arms/Pietta L&R mfg 1979, 1864 CH Rigdon made from Uberti L&R mfg 1973

Wow Great Photo and Great looking Guns. Thank for Posting ;D

Great layout, you definitely have a gifted eye. Thanks for sharing!

CP

Quote from: litl rooster on November 15, 2009, 11:45:26 AM

have you tried using one of these?


http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=651/Product/FLEX_HONE_RIFLE_POLISHING_SYSTEM

Never heard of it before rooster. Thanks. How well has it worked for you?

Quote from: Ridgway Texican Ranger on July 30, 2011, 03:16:29 PM
Never heard of it before rooster. Thanks. How well has it worked for you?

I'm not Rooster, but we're friends!

Anyway, I've used those chamber hones before in my 12 Ga. and the chambers of my 45 cal. revolvers and rifles.  They worked great ... as long as you use the oil that Brownell's sells for it (it's special and just for honing, not like other "just plain" oils,) and you don't take shortcuts like too high RPM, etc.  The directions are few and uncomplicated, ya just need to USE them.  I noticed more improvement in my shotguns.  It DOES get a touch pricey, however, because you'll use 85% - 95% of the "life" of the hones on each gun.  The impregnated balls wear away quickly.  Good thing however, when their useful "life" has finished, they can still be used in the chambers of your rifles and revolvers to help take out the crud that forms in the chamber right up at the neck of the case - you know, that gritty-waxy-crap that is there after a long session of firing smokeyless rounds. (No - you DON'T get those "crud rings" from shooting BP.)

The shotgun hone slicked my chambers (I did 2 guns) up so that most fired cases will fall out when the action is opened. 

Be careful, 'tho.  Those things come in coarse and med-fine.  You can take off TOO much metal if you use the coarse hone too "vigorously" and at too high RPM.  Best is to start with the coarse, then finish with the finer hone.

Hope this helps.

Thanks Bailey.

Not much compared to the wonderful pictures you guys have posted, but until I actually get to see my new toy in person, this pic will have to do:

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/Alpha-17/Real%20Steel/JacobsRevolver004.jpg)

Love them fluted '60 Armys !

MD

I just saw the continued posts on the 43 spanish rollers....

I think it is very gun dependent.  I know I got lucky with the gun I got since it is near museum quality (only lacking a bayonet) and the bore was pristeen.

I have had great luck with using my shotgun load of  2f BP with a cookie and the Buffalo Brothers 43 spanish bullet and using the Lee dies to reload.

I use a wad cookie since the barrel is so long (36 C&B wads work great betw two thin wads) and they fit the necked portion of the 43 spanish case nicely.

At 100-150 yds I can easily hit the 14 x 14 plate or a nice sized pumpkin!


PR

Just picked these up recently.  Ft Sumter and Gettysburg Commemorative 1851 Navies by Hawes Firearms.  Made in 1971 by Armi San Paolo.  Matching serial numbers (A030 and B030
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/FtSumter1.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/Gettysburg1.jpg)

My trio of Pietta New Army's....... ;D

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/mic214/Firearms/1958-17.jpg)

Those are some fine looking shooters. I am a remmy fan ! The wood on those grips is very nice also ! Thanks for posting  :)

Quote from: Marshal Deadwood on August 22, 2011, 06:32:40 AM
Love them fluted '60 Armys !

MD

How about a full fluted Remington Army?

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c91/buckoff123/conversions/100_2456.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c91/buckoff123/conversions/100_2458.jpg)

Quote from: Hoof Hearted on January 15, 2012, 09:40:01 AM
How about a full fluted Remington Army?

Nice gun, Hoofie!

One of my very faves is an 1862 Pocket Police with a 4" barrel & fluted cylinder, but not full flutes.  They are so compact and yet still .36 cal. power.  It would be in the Olde West about like carrying a .380 nowadays ... which I do when I don't have enough "room" to hide my 1911A1 Commander.

Thanks SHB!

Here's my new favorite:

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c91/buckoff123/100_1887.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c91/buckoff123/100_1888.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c91/buckoff123/100_1894.jpg)

BP only affair.........60 grains of it!

Awesome!

I have a 1st Mod., 2nd Gen. Colt Dragoon I've been thinking of sending ... to you or Raven ... to have a conversion cylinder fitted, so I could, with the C&B cylinder too, have the best of both worlds.

Which I perceive is exactly what you did, 'tho you might have started with a 2nd Model.

It wouldn't be exactly authentic, but with a cylinder that has a slightly longer throat, one could load up some, uh ... what would they be called? ... 45 ELC (Extra Long Colt)? 45 Colt Magnum? er, .454 Casull, with BP and shoot away!!  It would be sort of a "secret" thing, since a 454 C factory load wouldn't do very well.  Probably would't be worth the effort, what with possible accidents after I'm gone and someone ELSE discovers the "secret" and chambers a factory Casull round.

Never Mind.  But it would be fun.  The most fun I've had with mine (C&B cylinder) is when I put in 19-20 grs. of 3F, then seat a 30 gr. Pyrodex pellet.  That takes it up to the max designed Dragoon load of 50 grains ... and it rocks!  I tried it a few times with a "Buffalo Ball-et" which I think was about 180-190 grs. (or about 40-50 grs. heavier than a standard roundball) and it was the first time I ever experienced smokeyless-feeling recoil from a BP revolver!  It had the "felt recoil" approximately of what my Python does when firing full-power 158-180 gr. hunting rounds.  Not a lot of recoil, it IS a gun weighing more than 4.1 pounds, after all, but it was noticeable and a much sharper "hit" rather than the "shove" I normally get from full power BP loads.  Most folks wouldn't tolerate it, and I only shoot it like that once in a while - it's an expensive load, after all!  Normally, I shoot around 42-43 grs. of 3F behind a round ball and THAT is a good and VERY accurate load.  Actually, if I don't put in at least 32-34 grs. of powder, the ball stops down in the rebated portion (where the chamber narrows by the nipple opening) and I don't get any compression and then have inconsistent loads.  Over 35 grs. guarantees good compression and consistency.

But back to YOUR  new "favorite:"  COOL!!

SHB

This is something I enjoy doing and will do for you as a BLACK POWDER ONLY pistol.......

Raven has said before that for liability reasons they are constrained from offering these larger caliber conversions.

The one pictured above has the forcing cone cut back to the length of a Walker cylinder (by the way it is a 1st model and the oval notches are a non issue). I then also fit a Walker cap and ball cylinder to the revolver as a "switch" like you are wanting.

The Walker cylinder, after I ream the chambers, will accept a case the length of a 460 S&W (but not factory loaded 460 ammo) and 60 gr of 3fffg Swiss if dropped well. The Dragoon length shoud take the 454 case and maybe 5 or so grains less powder.

Doing this is with the above understandings and we need to mark the pistol for the caliber designation. Somthing like 45 - 1 & 3/4"

This has the same owner/shooter resposibilities as knowing not to load smokeless in your cap and ball revolver ;D

HH

Quote from: Hoof Hearted on January 17, 2012, 09:13:25 AM
SHB

This is something I enjoy doing and will do for you as a BLACK POWDER ONLY pistol.......

Raven has said before that for liability reasons they are constrained from offering these larger caliber conversions.

The one pictured above has the forcing cone cut back to the length of a Walker cylinder (by the way it is a 1st model and the oval notches are a non issue). I then also fit a Walker cap and ball cylinder to the revolver as a "switch" like you are wanting.

The Walker cylinder, after I ream the chambers, will accept a case the length of a 460 S&W (but not factory loaded 460 ammo) and 60 gr of 3fffg Swiss if dropped well. The Dragoon length shoud take the 454 case and maybe 5 or so grains less powder.

Doing this is with the above understandings and we need to mark the pistol for the caliber designation. Somthing like 45 - 1 & 3/4"

This has the same owner/shooter resposibilities as knowing not to load smokeless in your cap and ball revolver ;D

HH

I'll send you an IM.

Thanks for the info.

I know she's a little big for CAS, but I promise she won't be tainted by that modern stuff! I've been hankering for a good 1886 for quite a while, I even fancied the idea of a new one for a fleeting moment. Boy am I glad I waited. 1890 vintage Model 1886 in 40-82 WCF. Picked her up from a local smith that I deal with and can not wait to get in some cases and dies. I need to slug the bore and order up the right bullets too!

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd32/bufflerrazz/Winnies/P1310159.jpg)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd32/bufflerrazz/Winnies/P1310158.jpg)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd32/bufflerrazz/Winnies/S5000648.jpg)

Lookin' good!

I want one!!!

All I can say is OH MERCY . That is a thing of beauty . I would love to have one.

Mason  ;D

Here is my "New to me" Horse pistol. It is a 3rd Model Dragoon made by Uberti. I also got an R&D conversion cylinder in .45 Colt with it:

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/mic214/Black%20Powder/Dragoon8.jpg)

Quote from: Mason Stillwell on February 26, 2012, 07:30:27 PM
All I can say is OH MERCY . That is a thing of beauty . I would love to have one.

Mason  ;D

wiping the drool off my chin

My favorite cap & baller:

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q319/RiotEarp/000_0022-1.jpg)

Okay,

Here's mine:

(http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab107/WaddWatsonEllis/TexicanRangersIX.jpg)

Havent posted anything new on here in a few months.  Here is my Christmas present to myself last year.

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/DSCN1306.jpg)

Finger's McG  your mouse finger must be twitchin'

Quote from: litl rooster on July 16, 2012, 11:31:00 AM
Finger's McG  your mouse finger must be twitchin'

The post wasn't completing - or at least that was the error message I kept getting.  Apparently the high temps around here lately have caused the local electrons to vibrate at hight frequencies causing false error messages.  Another example of global warming I guess  :o

I've deleted the multiple posts.

Okay, Here is one ...

(http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab107/WaddWatsonEllis/TexicanRangersXI.jpg)

TTFN,

(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m53/Grapeshot_2006/100_0031.jpg)

My most recent BP shooters.

Hell any chance of someone from New Zealand joining this gang.Here is my credentials.Shot 11 stages of BPGF at our local champs.Well down the ratings but i was the only one shooting Walkers

Here's my two, a Pietta 1860 and what Pietta calls a 1851 Confederate Navy Sheriff (more of a chopped barrel Schneider and Glassick, with the brass frame and all)

gee Mr Hickey ya think ya could make a little more smoke? ;D

Quote from: litl rooster on September 20, 2012, 10:38:31 PM
gee Mr Hickey ya think ya could make a little more smoke? ;D

Terrible, aint it?  All that pollution.

Seriously, Mr. Hickey - that's a great photo, pard!!  Really shows Black Powder shooting at its' best!

And shooting Walkers!  Good on ya!

Just finished modifying my transition 1860 armys.Now have Navy grips and reloading levers.This was the configuration of the first 70 1860 armys made.
cheers Hick

Well sir you won't loose a gun fight due to the lack of gun power :o

Indeed!

That's sure a fine lookin' collection!

Thanks for the interest gentlemen a pleasure to be in such fine company

Chris, that is interesting how you added the rammer back on to the 1860 Transitions.  I guess that is an option with those guns that still have the rammer slot under the barrel, but haven't seen anyone do it before.  Very cool.

Gday all,
I'm new here.
Though I would post here as my first love in shooting is the Holy Black.
I have a growing collection of original and reproduction firearms here is a small taste of my Working Tools.

Quote from: Gloucestre on September 30, 2012, 03:44:53 AM
Gday all,
I'm new here.
Though I would post here as my first love in shooting is the Holy Black.
I have a growing collection of original and reproduction firearms here is a small taste of my Working Tools.

Nice toys ... er, "tools!"

I do not have an '87, yet. WM

IPM actually  ;)

I like the '87 it gets a fair bit of use on our Sporting Clays layout.

Quote from: Gloucestre on September 30, 2012, 05:00:18 AM
IPM actually  ;)

I like the '87 it gets a fair bit of use on our Sporting Clays layout.

Your right arm must be pretty ripped?

Here are a few more of mine.

(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m53/Grapeshot_2006/100_0031.jpg)

(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m53/Grapeshot_2006/1866Yellowboy006.jpg)

here's a new toy I picked up, a .36 Leech & Rigdon Navy arms/Pietta. The other two are a Pietta 1860 and Pietta Schneider and Glassick Sheriff.

Quote from: brazosdave on October 09, 2012, 02:22:23 PM
here's a new toy I picked up, a .36 Leech & Rigdon Navy arms/Pietta. The other two are a Pietta 1860 and Pietta Schneider and Glassick Sheriff.

Nice!

Quote from: brazosdave on October 09, 2012, 02:22:23 PM
here's a new toy I picked up, a .36 Leech & Rigdon Navy arms/Pietta. The other two are a Pietta 1860 and Pietta Schneider and Glassick Sheriff.

I just love the styling of the L&Rs.  I've got a few of them myself.

I'll throw in... ;D

(http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o666/brazosdave/100_1338.jpg)

Better pic of my Uberti Leech & Rigdon

(http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o666/brazosdave/oldwestguns001.jpg)

My little collection

Nice toys, B.D.!

Uh Ouiiiii them pretty guns.

Some right fine shooters in here!

You just gotta love them open tops

Latest acquisitions:

1861 Whitney repro, unknown maker,unknown date.  No markings or proof marks other than barrel address "1861 E. Whitney .36 Cal" and serial number
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/Whitney0378802_zpseb00c2e7.jpg)

Consecutive SN Pietta/Hatrford 1860 Sheriff's models
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/Pietta1860Sheriffs2_zpsb9085b60.jpg)

Fine!!!

(http://images16.fotki.com/v301/photos/0/1747790/9503212/OT889-vi.jpg)


Left side, top to bottom:

Pietta 1860 Army Sheriff's Model with Navy grip
Galeck & Son 1851 Sheriff's Model engraved


Right side, top to bottom:

'71 ASM OpenTop
Pietta 1861 Navy Sheriff's model                         :)

brazosdave and Fingers McGee :

Great lookin' collections.

thankee gents! Waiting on one more gun to ship here, and then I have 4 pistola's and a hawken to add. I'll put up the pics!

I've been searching for a "deal" on a used Rogers & Spencer conversion cylinder and in the process turned up an interesting bit of trivia from 2008. The conversion cylinder for a Remie also fits in the R&S!! Now, I own a Uberti converted Remie already (gated like original factory re-issue) so I took both guns apart to see how a swap would work. The cylinder alone, fit's and indexes properly, however the bolt on the R&S is a bit too big for the slots. The firing pin/recoil shield is only a few thousanths of an inch too small for the R&S frame. So, with a little judicious filing on the R&S frame and the capping port (to allow a shell to be inserted or removed), creating one screw hole to secure the back plate and changing the bolt to one modified for the Remie cylinder, I can have the best of both worlds for the cost of a new bolt !! Course if I want to shoot bp out of the R&S I have to change the bolt and unscrew the recoil plate.

Sweet!

(http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o666/brazosdave/Hickok36PiettaandSpringfieldHawken50004_zpsa59ec5e2.jpg)
another one I got first of the yr, new Pietta .36 1851 Navy "Wild Bill Hickok"

(http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o666/brazosdave/001_zps49074a4b.jpg)
Kentucky pistol

(http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o666/brazosdave/CVAEnglishTowerPistol001_zps933876d2.jpg)
Tower pistol

(http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o666/brazosdave/Hickok36PiettaandSpringfieldHawken50008_zpsa7945c10.jpg)
.50 springfield Hawken

(http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o666/brazosdave/009_zpsb4f2e07b.jpg)
makin smoke!

here's most of our guns, minus a Griswold and Gunnison down for refurb, an early 1800's Evick rifle, and a .44 Pietta brasser 51 navy that's in the mail.

 Custom built Bob Munden "Option #2 - Race Guns"
(http://www.tamebill.com/photos/undefined/51%20Navy%20Conversions.jpg)

Consecutive pair of Cimarron Fire Arms '51 Navy R-M conversion revolvers.   Munden "Option #2 Race Gun" action work with coil main spring conversions, dovetailed front sights, fluted cylinders, rounded muzzle crowning. Chisel & Plane faux Ivory Munden Recoil Control custom grips.

Lovely!

Mighty fine pistolas there Tame Bill. ..................Dusty

(http://api.ning.com/files/MYCNkeQPwWi6O3c752UZBjPhHQGMD5XXIw5jNxL36w*LP5fA0x6KewDiVIsPhMrI/Karlsweaponry011.JPG)
I am fond of .36 calibre C&B revolvers and .38 S&W conversions. 

Uberti stainless steel fluted cylinder 1860 Army that was made in 1983.  Had been used - and a little abused - and needed a little TLC  on arrival; but after cleaning it up and doing a little tweaking, it should shoot alright this weekend.

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/Fluted1860Army1_zps5911fc2d.jpg)

I haven't got a photo yet (besides, EVERYone has seen these) but I did get a new (for me) Uberti 1860 Army Model.  (With the steel backstrap & shoulder stock fittings.)  It was sold to me as used, but I'm sure from after disassembling it that it was unfired until I came along.  It was made in 1999 (according to the date code) and has NO nasty Italian writing on the barrel and frame like their older models.  This one is basically "de-farbed" with only required inspection stamps but most are out of sight under the under-barrel lever.

It shoots great and very near to point of aim, rather than shooting high as my older (1975 manufactured) 1860 Army does.  Uberti must have listened to CAS shooters, because instead of the regular (and authentic) brass "wedge-type" front sight, this has a small "blade" for the front.  It has the same shape as the front blade on my Open-Top and my 1873 Peacemaker, although it is about HALF the height of my O/T sight which is about half the height of my 1873's front blade sight.  In addition, the wood to metal fit of the grip is 99% of the way to PERFECT - the best I've ever seen on an Italian gun and rivaling the fit on a couple of honest-to-goodness Colt (tm) guns a friend owns!

Kudos ... again to Uberti for #1) making a great gun, & #2) pleasing an Olde Fart BP shooter!

My El Patron and '73 Lever both in .357:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7430/9193045077_f3c0ea93cb_c.jpg)

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2848/9428343150_3e26b6548b_c.jpg)

Also a 9422 from '74 and a Rossi 92 in .44mag.

The 1873 lever is a real tack driver with black powder (all I have ever shot in it, except for one round of commercial ammo, also the only bought ammo run through it). The lacquer finish on the wood isn't my kinda thing though so I am gonna put a real oil coat on it. Not sure if I should go with BLO or Tru-oil.

i'm gettin ready to go,the leg is healin well,won't be long ;D
(http://i1324.photobucket.com/albums/u606/rick_son1/DSC07082_zps233623bb.jpg)

mix and match

(http://i1324.photobucket.com/albums/u606/rick_son1/DSC07062_zpse6b076bc.jpg)

Sweet!

New guy here, a few pics of my Avenging Angels. Both are Uberties.
1851 Colt.
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c119/pstone001/100_5674.jpg) (http://s26.photobucket.com/user/pstone001/media/100_5674.jpg.html)
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c119/pstone001/100_5658.jpg) (http://s26.photobucket.com/user/pstone001/media/100_5658.jpg.html)

1860 Army
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c119/pstone001/100_5631.jpg) (http://s26.photobucket.com/user/pstone001/media/100_5631.jpg.html)
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c119/pstone001/100_5626.jpg) (http://s26.photobucket.com/user/pstone001/media/100_5626.jpg.html)

If you been a good boy Santa will bring you the barrels this year ;D

Nice shooters,would love to see those in action...Merry Christmas,i wanna see more..

My fire sticks:

Pietta Kentucky Long Rifle

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/Alpha-17/Real%20Steel/Long%20Arms/KentuckyLongRifle.jpg) (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/Alpha-17/media/Real%20Steel/Long%20Arms/KentuckyLongRifle.jpg.html)

Uberti Colt 1860 Army:

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/Alpha-17/Real%20Steel/001-2.jpg) (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/Alpha-17/media/Real%20Steel/001-2.jpg.html)

And my newest acquisition, a Cimarron 7th Cavalry 1873 Single Action Army.  A pleasure to shoot, and boy does she like black powder loads!

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/Alpha-17/Real%20Steel/Action%20Shots/P2011037.jpg) (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/Alpha-17/media/Real%20Steel/Action%20Shots/P2011037.jpg.html)

I also have a 1795 Springfield repro, but no good pictures of it.  'sides, that's way too old fashion for this forum.  ;D

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mBHDTYVQpWo/Uz2CRlLrEEI/AAAAAAAAA6U/Jwesbc6TTYo/w1044-h370-no/IMG_1964.JPG)

Everything is ready for  Saturday. The first match this year.

(http://bpcr1885.net/pics/1858c1s.jpg)

Quote from: SaguaroMike on April 03, 2014, 09:04:17 PM
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Everything is ready for  Saturday. The first match this year.

You almost maxed out your style points!  :)

I agree, the dark side is strong with this one.

I have been wanting a Stainless Steel Uberti Colt 1861 Navy for many moons,  The second Generation Colts are a bit out of my price range - they only made 8 and the last one sold at auction last fall for $22,000+; you heard right $22,000+.  So, I've resigned myself to being satisfied if I could find one of the Uberti made SS 1861 Navies that were made back in the mid 1980s - quantity of which are unknown.  Well, I finally have one coming.  Mfg 1984, Allen Firearms, Santa Fe, NM barrel address.   

Here are a couple pictures:

(http://s28.postimg.org/bl139qgt5/Fingers1.jpg)
(http://s1.postimg.org/svltyhk2j/Fingers2_1.jpg)
(http://s27.postimg.org/x9mnrk0wf/Fingers3.jpg)

Will take some better ones when it arrives

Thought I would add my two cents on pictures.  The first are a pair of  45LC Ruger RVs with 38gn of FFg and a 250 gr boolet.  The second is a night shoot with my mighty 10g with 120gns of FFg. 

Quote from: Tornado on June 18, 2014, 04:11:04 PM
You almost maxed out your style points!  :)

The Patterson put him over

Quote from: RRio on January 13, 2013, 06:35:16 PM

Left side, top to bottom:

Pietta 1860 Army Sheriff's Model with Navy grip
Galeck & Son 1851 Sheriff's Model engraved


Right side, top to bottom:

'71 ASM OpenTop
Pietta 1861 Navy Sheriff's model                         :)

Thanks RRIO and to all you other folks who identify pieces in these shorts. It really helps us newbies learn to recognize this piece from that. Love to see it continue.....

Best Wishes,

Bruce

Bruce,

Try the Search window by typing in something like "Cap & Ball.com".
You will find 36 pages of reading under just that search suggestion.
Some of these will have images and others will offer videos.
My best,
Blair

Quote from: Blair on September 25, 2014, 11:28:15 AM
Bruce,

Try the Search window by typing in something like "Cap & Ball.com".
You will find 36 pages of reading under just that search suggestion.
Some of these will have images and others will offer videos.
My best,
Blair

Thanks, Blair:

I have been working to be able to distinguish among these many fine pieces, if
only to keep from making a complete fool out of myself on an International forum.
Knowledge is Power, right?  :-)

Best Wishes,

Bruce

Bruce,

Right!
And the road to maintaining that power is a good personnel reference Library. Another words books!
You may not be able to keep all you will learn from books separated in your head, but you will always have the information at your finger tips.
My best,
Blair

Quote from: Muddyboot on December 21, 2013, 07:17:07 AM
New guy here, a few pics of my Avenging Angels. Both are Uberties.
1851 Colt.

Why did you remove the Creedmore sites?
How you planning on making those 200-300 yard shots without a decent site?  :o

Win 94 .44Mag, OM vaquero .45LC and Blackhawk .357Mag:
(http://i59.tinypic.com/2nsqb0y.jpg)

And a HEGE-Uberti 1858 L. Walther Special .44:
(http://i58.tinypic.com/2n6x9j4.jpg)

Here's my main stays....once I get the timing fixed, I'll be back to using them.
They are a matched pair of Cimarron (Uberti) Cattlemen in 45 LC.

Here's some of my others...NMV in only used 777 in 357's for one match.  Got plenty of smoke and bang.
I'll be using these or my Remmie NMA copies until the Cattlemen are running smoothly again.  Plan to use 3f Goex with the Vaqueros next time....now that I have proper lube on my bullets...

Latest acquisition.  Stainless steel Uberti 1862 Pocket Navy made in 1984.

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/DSCN2254_zps6s2lchep.jpg)

Goes with the 1851 Navy, 1861 Navy, and 1860 Armies already in the collection.

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/015_zps8d14db82.jpg)

Here's my pistol, Pietta 1851 Confederate Navy.  I've had her since 2002.  Best shootin' pistol I've owned. My son took this on our latest trip to the range.  Lookin' to gettin' her a sister.  Can't have too many. ;)

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And my favorite huntin' rifle I got, even more than my Winchester 94 .30-30. CVA Bobcat .50, shoot that with about 85-90g Pyrodex RS.  Might try switching it up this year and using 3F Goex in it too.

(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/11401095_10203362430734965_6963032196339173947_n.jpg?oh=23ce6e53cdff35dc839b2c0d3e3f0085&oe=55EB56A9)

Thanks for lookin.

RM

Quote from: Fingers McGee on September 02, 2008, 11:36:26 PM
Here are a few more of my shootin irons:

Jefferson Davis Commemorative:

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/JeffDavisSet.jpg)

Fingers (ShowMe MO smoke) McGee

Is this a 5 shot 36cal pistol? A small frame pistol? I have one that looks exactly like this one, but its a small pistol and I havent found a way to identify it. I cant tell the size on this one here.

Quote from: northwestgrizzly on September 22, 2015, 03:36:28 PM

Is this a 5 shot 36cal pistol? A small frame pistol? I have one that looks exactly like this one, but its a small pistol and I havent found a way to identify it. I cant tell the size on this one here.

The pictured gun is an 1851 Navy (6 shot .36).  You may have an 1849 model, they look very similar, just smaller.  Colt pocket models are described here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Pocket_Percussion_Revolvers

What I'm wondering, what is that gizmo in front of the trigger guard?  A lanyard/saddle-ring of sorts?

It is a sling swivel, meant to work in conjunction with the sling swivel on the butt stock when the two were attached.
A revolver of this type (in fact this maybe a copy of that same revolver) was presented to US Secretary of War Jefferson Davis during the  mid 1850's. One of those promotional things Colt likes to do.
My best,
Blair

Quote from: Blair on September 22, 2015, 05:10:12 PM
It is a sling swivel, meant to work in conjunction with the sling swivel on the butt stock when the two were attached.
A revolver of this type (in fact this maybe a copy of that same revolver) was presented to US Secretary of War Jefferson Davis during the  mid 1850's. One of those promotional things Colt likes to do.
My best,
Blair

Ahh, cool.  If I had seen a different angle on it and saw that it was elongated, I might have figured that out.  Thanks!

Quote from: Abilene on September 22, 2015, 04:18:08 PM
The pictured gun is an 1851 Navy (6 shot .36).  You may have an 1849 model, they look very similar, just smaller.  Colt pocket models are described here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Pocket_Percussion_Revolvers

What I'm wondering, what is that gizmo in front of the trigger guard?  A lanyard/saddle-ring of sorts?

Looks like you're correct....mine is the Pietta version of this Colt.

(http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server5100/7g4m0/products/33322/images/152839/C9126b__01470.1372190430.1280.1280.jpg?c=2)

This ones mine....
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(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtl1/v/t1.0-9/12037956_10205721287496022_159755859004745243_n.jpg?oh=733dffd45f064d6c00312eb39fa0c136&oe=56929696)

Quote from: Blair on September 22, 2015, 05:10:12 PM
It is a sling swivel, meant to work in conjunction with the sling swivel on the butt stock when the two were attached.
A revolver of this type (in fact this maybe a copy of that same revolver) was presented to US Secretary of War Jefferson Davis during the  mid 1850's. One of those promotional things Colt likes to do.
My best,
Blair

It's a Jeff Davis Commemorative Cased Set Limited edition 31 of 1861 made by Euroarms for Beauvoir the Jefferson Davis Home & Presidential library in Biloxi, MS.  It has Silver plated BS/TG, stock hardware and butt plate The pistol and stock furniture are engraved similar to the Colt presentation piece.

Here is some of my Stuff.

3 Custom flint rifles, and fowler
1 Early pattern full stock plains rifle
Euroarms 1855 "Springfield"
Colt pocket
Couple of Navy Sixes
Original Thunderer and S&W 1 1/2

-Dave

Got a new horse in the stable. Found this at a local gun show. Replica Arms 1847 Walker, it even came with a brass mold for 200 gn "Walker" conical's. Shown with my "real" Colts; 1860 Army(1867) and 1849 Pocket(1863)  for size comparison.(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u539/Edenchef/Walker%20001_zpsky9dhxkh.jpg).
That is one d__n big gun!

Here's one of my firing my Pietta Smith carbine (it's also my profile picture).

Chris

Some mighty fine firearms all around.  I really like the 1851 Colt Navy for balance and handling, so much so that I have two, one in the original .36 caliber and the second in .44.  The second one came to me as an unassembled "Basket Case"  that required refinishing since it had been stripped.  They both shoot well and regularly.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/treadhead1952/th_Em1851CN44_001.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/treadhead1952/media/Em1851CN44_001.jpg.html)

A couple of years ago Cabela's had a sale right around Christmas and I picked up a 5 and a 1/2 inch barreled Remington 1858.  It has proven to be very handy and quite accurate.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/treadhead1952/th_Em1858Rem_057.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/treadhead1952/media/Em1858Rem_057.jpg.html)

I also have a more modern iteration of a rifle/shotgun combination from Thompson Center, their "New Englander" in .54 cal./12 Gauge.  Another accurate one that I rather enjoy on the firing line.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/treadhead1952/Firearms%20Projects/th_E%20M%20NE%2054%20005.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/treadhead1952/media/Firearms%20Projects/E%20M%20NE%2054%20005.jpg.html)

I have the purchase of a replica 1860 Colt Army revolver under way at the moment, but it hasn't arrived as yet.

Oh yeah, I also have a Ducksfoot.  It is a kit that I picked up from Las Vegas's sole Black Powder gun shop, Ray's Beaver Bag, which is no longer around.  The novelty of having a three barreled pistol that lets go of all three at one time was just too strong for me to resist.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/treadhead1952/treadhead1952006/th_E%20Mail%20P10100000902.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/treadhead1952/media/treadhead1952006/E%20Mail%20P10100000902.jpg.html)

Jay
treadhead1952
Las Vegas, NV

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u539/Edenchef/R-M%20Colts%20001_zpse0cylviv.jpg)

Two new Uberti 1860 R-M Conversions, for CAS practice sessions. Much easier to get a lot of shooting in vs using my C&B 1860's. Same weight and feel, just faster to load and still using the Holy Black.  I'll probably also use them as loaners, to introduce new people to CAS. I'm currently setting up the necessary spare leather for that. Cheers!

Great looking revolvers

My new Twins   :) ;D

Very purdy, pard.

Here is a cool picture of Flatbush making smoke at the Bristol Plains Pistoleros September match.

Just me and my old russian lady  ;D

I just had to submit these:

1 of 25 engraved and cased Pocket Navy

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/Engraved%20amp%20cased%20Pocket%20Navy%20RIA%209-10_zps0cvhdq20.jpg)

Plus these 1 of 50 3rd Model Dragoons

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/Blue%20amp%20Gray%20Commemorative%202nd%20Gens_zpshqznb9yi.jpg)

Few of mine

Here are a few of my babies...  Have several more that I didn't take pix of:

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y242/Gomezy3k/DSC00011_zpsq67dcali.jpg)

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y242/Gomezy3k/DSC00010_zpssxoik7sm.jpg)

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y242/Gomezy3k/DSC00009_zpsreptcsds.jpg)

My Piettas, thunderers are 45 colt and 1858's are 44's
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g125/nivekwerd/My%20CAS%20revolvers_zpszi1lhxq4.jpg)

My rifles and shotgun  :)
The sharps is 45-70 built by my father, the 1873 is a plain Jane Taylor & Company sporting rifle in 45 and the shotgun is a Neumann Bros. that I don't know much about it.
(http://i.imgur.com/pTj9eDY.jpg)

Pair of stainless steel Uberti 1851 Navies.

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/82cbbf0d-4cdf-43da-aa1c-925961b3fc3b_zpscsdyuuli.jpg)

My latest - Taylor's & Co. 1851 Navy R-M Conversion Revolvers  Here a short video slide show.

https://youtu.be/shfxeAG2LCw (https://youtu.be/shfxeAG2LCw)

(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/49/57/51995749/photos/Taylors-1851-Navy-R-M-Conversion-Revolvers/_1017814.jpg)

I bring out the 1st gen Colts once or twice a year.  They shot a clean match Saturday with the Darby Rough Regulators out at Bunk Stagner's place.  Goex FFFg in the 4 3/4" .32-20 (1915) and FFg in the TTN.  Olde Eynsford FFg in the 7 1/2" .45 Colt (1901) and the 44wcf carbine.  I wrote a more detailed story of these pistols in the Colt forum here: http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,59850.0.html

(http://davidscottharper.com/photos/1st%20Gens%20July2017.jpg)

(http://gunbelts.com/media/wysiwyg/western-gun-belt.jpg)

A few

A few more

And

last but not least

Does a Martini-Henry Mk. II count?  Even if I have not fired it yet, nor will I be ready to load for it for some time into the future.
Anyway, new here and wanted to share something.
Mark

(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h176/TomcatPC/DSCN1171.jpg) (http://s64.photobucket.com/user/TomcatPC/media/DSCN1171.jpg.html)

Circa 1891

Old pals, heading out for rifle season opener on Saturday

Howdy Fellas! I looked for somewhere to officially introduce myself, and couldn't find it. So I figured here was a good place to start.

I'm fairly new to CAS but not to shootin my beloved black powder guns. I've been lurking around here for a little while and finally got signed up today. I see a few familiar names from other places around the inter webs. You guys have a wealth of information here. Hoping I can learn more, and maybe even contribute a little of my own. Thanks for having me!

Here's my meager collection of shootin irons. I use real black powder in them all. I hope you enjoy them.

If I have posted in the wrong place or incorrectly, please let me know and direct me to the proper place. Thanks!

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48419239157_56e3dbeeed_z.jpg)

Nice cache of firearms Dave, you'll fit right in.

Yeah Dave, nice display!  You didn't happen to shoot Comancheria Days last year, did you?

Thank you Gentlemen!

Abilene, no Sir I didn't. I've just barely gotten my feet wet with SASS. I've shot two matches so far, but man am I hooked!

Okay, my mistake.  There was a fellow on my posse that I had never met, and his alias was very similar to yours though I can't recall it right now.  Your arsenal does not look like it belongs to a SASS newbie  ;D

Quote from: Abilene on July 30, 2019, 11:12:41 PM
  Your arsenal does not look like it belongs to a SASS newbie  ;D

Right?!?! I know what I love and stick to it.

I am definitely a SASS newbie, but not a black powder/C&B newbie. I've been fooling with these guns for a long time.

Need to add the 2nd year mfg Navy.

Fingers, ya got took! That t'ain't a second gen Colt. Best to send it on to me and I'll hide it for ya'. Really a beautiful find, we should all be so lucky. Do you plan on trying to shoot it or is it just for lookin'?

Mailman dropped off this 1863 vintage, 6 shot, 4 inch barrel 1849 Pocket Model yesterday.  It's nothing special, just your everyday
pocket model that got the benefit of cased accessories.  It has some bluing showing, along with faded case colors.   It locks up with no over rotation, and has no cylinder turn line. The case is by Bill's Cases, Flask was a modern reproduction, as is the cap tin.  Nipple wrench is 2nd Gen and the mold is a well used original - I think.  I've already swapped the Flask and mold with what I believe are originals.  I need to get my Percussion Accoutrements book out and do some research so I can validate the accessory's pedigree.

Same set with period correct flask and mold.

Quote from: The Pathfinder on July 27, 2020, 09:46:18 AM
Fingers, ya got took! That t'ain't a second gen Colt. Best to send it on to me and I'll hide it for ya'. Really a beautiful find, we should all be so lucky. Do you plan on trying to shoot it or is it just for lookin'?

Please excuse my belated response.  Not only is it not a 2nd, Gen, it will be (was ) shot.  I was tempted to shoot it in a match; but decide against it.  The 20 or so rounds I did put down range grouped fairly well at 15 yards.  The pistol functioned flawlessly.

A shooting buddy has a Walker repro and I have an 1860 vintage 4" pocket. Sometimes at regional N-SSA skirmishes we shoot those side by side on the line. It's a hoot, and we even get hits at 25 yards once in a while.

Gonna have to start down this scary, smoky trail as I just picked up an 1875 marked Springfield Trapdoor. Got all the stuff to load up the Holy Black except the powder and cast boolits.

Probably one of my best screen caps I got from one of my videos. Uberti colt walker.

Uberti 1860 army. One of my favorites screen caps. Really shows how chain fired can happen. Look at all the sparks and fire. I'd like to get a high quality night photo of one going off.

https://youtu.be/EPujm91eWHg (https://youtu.be/EPujm91eWHg)
38 years of shooting cap & ball in SASS and never had a chain fire.  Easily prevented.  In fact, I charge all six chambers and cap five to comply with rules... sixth chamber remains uncapped unless I have a cap malfunction, or need a reload to meet stage requirements.  I use full strength mainsprings, now use SlixShot nipples, .375 balls to shave a slight ring of lead and a lubed wad under the ball.  Reasonable charge of powder to meet the task at hand.  In my .36s it's right around 15 grains by volume to ring steel.  Doesn't need any more to punch holes in paper either!  I haven't had a hammer bounce back, haven't lost a cap off a nipplie in I don't know how long... at least as long as I quit using stock nipples.  I use Remington #10 or RWS 1075 caps, preferably the Remingtons.

But keep using lightened mainsprings, max loads, poor powder control and poor fitting caps & balls and you'll keep having chain fires.  But, please, don't make it about the gun. 

I've 51 years of cap bustin without a chain fire. Have always paid attention in loading and firing process, no 'Cinderella' springs, tight fitting caps and balls, lubed felt wads. I do use good stout loads of black but not excess. Back in'72 when first starting out I had a '51 Navy 44 (Euroarms) that wasn't timed right, the caps didn't fit tight (pinch them to stay on), used a .451 ball that fit tight but didn't shave much lead, and smeared grease over the ball which was messier than greasing an axle. Never a chain fire, but those first years were a learning experience. Saw a chain fire once, a friend had a brasser '51 Navy 36 that did so back in the early days. Always figured maybe loose caps was the culprit. Today use .454 and .380 balls for tight fit, lubed wad over powder, and mostly #10 Remington caps that fit tight over every factory nipple and/or replacement nipple on the eleven cappers I have and have no problem with caps falling into the action. They stay put on the nipples, all they need is a flick to remove.