My Latest Remington Addition

[Appalachian Ed]

I just picked up this New Model. Delivered Dec 1864. Covered in inspector marks. about 80% Blue, bright bore, mint nipples, full blue in cylinders, probably never issued or fired. Super tight action. 100% case color on hammer. No metal wear just blue wear, probably from handling and playing over the past 145 years. A super nice example.

I though yall might enjoy the pics.

[Indian Outlaw]

I was going to respond but have to clean up the drool first.

[River City John]

Let us know how it shoots.


RCJ

[Hoof Hearted]

Nice pistol!

HH

[Harley Starr]

Would have replied earlier but I just couldn't stop staring! That gun is a keeper if you ask me.

[Wolfgang]

NICE  . . . is that the one that was on "Gunrunner" ?  I was drooling over it . . . . and my major toy money was all spent for the present . . . 

[Appalachian Ed]

Not the one on Gunrunner, I did bid on that though. I bought this piece from a local dealer, just across the Tn line.

-Ed

[Hoof Hearted]

I looked at one in VERY similar condition today in Granbury Texas. It was priced at $1775.00.

HH

[Appalachian Ed]

Was it martially marked and inspected? If so you should snatch it up at that price, if not PM me with a phone number of the outfit that has it!!!


Ed

[Skeeter Lewis]

That is a stunning piece of hardware.

[waffenmacht]

WOW Awesome.  Is that mark on the left grip (at the bottom) an inspector mark?

[Appalachian Ed]

Yes, That is the inspector mark on the left grip.

-Ed

[Wolfgang]

Ed, . . . GREAT . . . . guns are made to be SHOT.   

[Smokin Gun]

Jus' came today...1861 Old Army Remigton(1862 year made) Ok now head me in the direction for "Parts for an original 1861  Old Army Rem please". T handle cylinder pin, Truigger/Bolt Spring, Hand with a handspring(spring retainer broken off)... Pretty good shape for a 147 years old.


Left Armi San Paolo 1858 NMA, 1861 Old Army Rem. Uberti 1858 NMW

[Wolfgang]

Smokin' Gun . . . real, real nice . . . .      and I like the "antique" on that Armi San Paolo too.   

[Smokin Gun]

Wolfgang, That APS Rem is pretty old an the cylinder banged up pretty good. Was and Old one when I got it defarbed with U.S. Stamp and Actual 1861 SN# found it number belonged to an1861 Beals .36 Navy. ...I can only take credit somewhat fot cleanin' away the dings and cleanin' it up some adding Perma Blue Paste...works good for the older look.
An thanks that one I named... "Rusty"... 

[Matt Bastardson]

If it looks too good to be true......

The point is, there is quite the market for upscale forgeries of both old Remington and old Colt revolvers.  In this instance, the wealth of inspector's marks makes me extra suspicious, as if the primo condition wasn't suspicious enough.

Some of these forgers turn out beautiful work these days that only an expert (and maybe not even then) can tell from the real deal.  Always check the provenance of these purported old revolvers..... as there should be some documentation or verifiable history accompanying them as to where exactly they came from.  They don't just magically appear

For reference re; 'inspector's marks' & lettering, read:
http://www.restoration-gunsmith.com/ltrng.html

And I believe that authentic old Civil War issue Colts and Remingtons in 80%+ new condition fetch upwards of $30,000 or more, so if the price wasn't near that then that's the first clue usually that something is amiss.


Another example of a ripe fake market is 'old' American Indian tomahawks.  Virtually 99.9% of purportedly old tomahawks sold on eBay are fakes, and the ones that aren't (and even some that are) are so expensive that it takes an expert to know the difference.

[Wolfgang]

jc . . . the "To Good To Be True"  . . . factor always needs consideration.   There was a Remington that looked the same condition as the very nice one at the head of this thread on the "Gunrunner" auction site a little while back.  Very, very nice . . . but to me looked just way to good to be true and it went for  $ 1,300 & something . . .      Fortunately I'd spent my toy budget on an original '73 and a nice Belgian SxS so I wasn't temped to bid on it anyway.  But it was just "too good" . . .     I express no opinion of the one that started this thread.  It is a very nice Remington New Model Army.  The reputation of the dealer selling and the other information about a guns history is as important as the physical appearance.  

Good shootin', . . . ( Remingtons of course ) . .  

ps.  there was also a 1849 Colt Pocket Revolver in that auction that was way TOO NICE and I recall went for under $ 1000 ?    WHAT ? . . 

[Appalachian Ed]

JC - First, you cant lump 80% Colts and Remingtons into the same batch.

Second, Nice Remingtons are VERY available, and a few thousand can buy a peach of a gun.

Nice colts, esp. 80% guns, are LOTS of money and a completely different story. Defarbed Remingtons being passed off as original would only fool the very novice collector. The only canvas for a fake would be a italian import.

Nice wartime examples are very available. There is very little to be gained from faking such an available pistol. The number of inspector marks is normal for a martially inspected gun.

The information you are offering is a bit general. Of course buyer should be cautious, but be educated on the topic before passing advice.

-Ed

[Wolfgang]

Ed . . . your Remington is nice.  And what ya paid for it isn't my business.   I see reputable dealers offer Remingtons in that condition for $ 2,000 or so.  As you say Colts in such condition are a whole different thing altogether !   $ 1,000 or so buys a Remington that is really beat up.  $ 1,500 ones are a bit better.  Pretty nice ones can be had for  $ 2,000.  REALY REALLY FINE ones start to get EXPENSIVE.  But nothing like the money that Colts go for in the same conditon.  One of the reasons I was suspicious of the one on "Gunrunner" was the Colt up above it that was being bid so low for what it was preported to be.