Uberti 1851 R-M

Started by Sandsnipe, February 20, 2013, 07:30:40 PM

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Sandsnipe

 I am thinking about buying a 1851 Richards-Mason Navy conversion gun chambered in .38 Colt and S&W Special. I'm new to single action shooting but have always liked the way the Navy's looked. I know this is pretty much a rookie question but can this gun shoot regular .38 special factory loads? I understand that P loads are out of the question and am not really interested in them anyways but is it alright to shoot normal jacketed rounds? Thanks for any help.

Mean Bob Mean

Quote from: Sandsnipe on February 20, 2013, 07:30:40 PM
I am thinking about buying a 1851 Richards-Mason Navy conversion gun chambered in .38 Colt and S&W Special. I'm new to single action shooting but have always liked the way the Navy's looked. I know this is pretty much a rookie question but can this gun shoot regular .38 special factory loads? I understand that P loads are out of the question and am not really interested in them anyways but is it alright to shoot normal jacketed rounds? Thanks for any help.

"Base" .38 special loads are fine in that gun, but choose lead projectiles as jacketed bullets are too much for the softer steels often employed in the barrels.  You can use a full load of black powder, or an equivalent load and be fine, or look at the pressure ratings of loads--stay in the lower ranges and you should be fine.  There are hundreds of great loads for the .38, you wont lack options.  If you are worried about self defense loads for it, don't.  Loading a heavy for caliber soft lead projectile gives you a very effective SD loading to leave in the gun if that is your concern.  I'd shoot .38 Long Colts if it were me, get into the originality of the piece and leave the concerns about heavy loads behind.  If you are worried about velocity for plinking, load some light bullets.  
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Abilene

Sandsnipe, yes you can shoot any SAAMI-spec factory .38 ammo in the Richards-Mason.  These are made to shoot cartridges and are made of strong steel, stronger than the black powder percussion guns.  Most people do shoot lead bullets in them but jacketed will not hurt the gun.  Personally, the '51 R-M is my favorite conversion (love that octagonal barrel!).  I've got 4 of them.

Graveyard Jack

I shoot cast almost exclusively but don't believe jacketed bullets are gonna hurt a factory cartridge conversion.
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Sandsnipe

 Thanks for all the input. I bought the gun and got a box of jacketed and lead.  Hopefully I'll be able to get some rounds through it this weekend.

Sir Charles deMouton-Black

I have a pair of them as my main match pistols.  Just to be clear, the groove diameter is .357 - just like all 38 Specials.  It makes no sense to buy .38 Long Colt cases as ordinary special cases are so cheap and fit perfectly.
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Quote from: Abilene on February 20, 2013, 09:18:33 PM
Sandsnipe, yes you can shoot any SAAMI-spec factory .38 ammo in the Richards-Mason.  These are made to shoot cartridges and are made of strong steel, stronger than the black powder percussion guns.  Most people do shoot lead bullets in them but jacketed will not hurt the gun.  Personally, the '51 R-M is my favorite conversion (love that octagonal barrel!).  I've got 4 of them.

Abilene:

So many folks here have warne dme off jacketed loads saying the guns were made using a softer steel, so that is a load of hooey?  That's great news, thanks!
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