Comanche Dress, finished yesterday 08-18-2010

Started by Ottawa Creek Bill, August 19, 2010, 07:48:13 PM

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Ottawa Creek Bill

This is a traditional hand sewn three hide dress I made this week for one of the Comanche women in our film. It is very plain as would be a dress worn everyday. This style came in after the two hide dress with the turned down tails that formed the yoke common from the early 1800's to around 1840-50. This dress above would have been worn from about 1860 up until the fully beaded yoke and back style dresses came into use, around 1890. More like what you see at modern pow wows today.

The bone hair pipe breast plate is a style worn by the women of several plains tribes including the Comanche as is the Dentalium shell choker. Dentalium shells were traded by some west coast tribes to those of the plains. The loomed belt is loomed with large beads, about 6 or 8 size, but not as big as pony beads....

This one may be for sale after the film....it will fit a female (or a Bierdache), up to 5' 8", and a waste up to 40". If fitted properly, it should fit loose, and not tight.

Bill

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Tascosa Joe

Awesome Bill.  It reminds me of my rondezvous days at Bents Fort.
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kflach


Steel Horse Bailey

Quote from: kflach on August 20, 2010, 02:46:34 PM
Do I want to know what a "Bierdache" is?


Bierdache - Traditional German spelling:  When you run to get the last one, i.e. - Beer Dash.

;)
"May Your Powder always be Dry and Black; Your Smoke always White; and Your Flames Always Light the Way to Eternal Shooting Fulfillment !"

Steel Horse Bailey

"May Your Powder always be Dry and Black; Your Smoke always White; and Your Flames Always Light the Way to Eternal Shooting Fulfillment !"

kflach

Google says "Did you mean berdache?" so I tried that. The definition for berdache (also called "Two-Spirit") fits correctly in this context so I'm guessing that this doesn't actually have anything to do with German Fuel Procurement.


Interestingly enough, the Wikipedia entry on "Steel Horse Bailey" states that a man with that name or nickname is rarely ever actually sorry for adding humor to or hijacking a thread on women's clothing.

It's amazing what you find on the internet.
;D

Ottawa Creek Bill

Quote from: kflach on August 20, 2010, 04:51:18 PM
Google says "Did you mean berdache?" so I tried that. The definition for berdache (also called "Two-Spirit") fits correctly in this context so I'm guessing that this doesn't actually have anything to do with German Fuel Procurement.


Interestingly enough, the Wikipedia entry on "Steel Horse Bailey" states that a man with that name or nickname is rarely ever actually sorry for adding humor to or hijacking a thread on women's clothing.

It's amazing what you find on the internet.
;D

Those were the men of the tribe that dressed and acted like women and had female traits. Do I need to go any further?

Bill
Vice Chairman American Indian Council of Indianapolis
Vice Chairman Inter tribal Council of Indiana
Member, Ottawa-Chippewa Band of Indians of Michigan
SASS # 2434
NCOWS # 2140
CMSA # 3119
NRA LIFER


Steel Horse Bailey

Quote from: kflach on August 20, 2010, 04:51:18 PM
Google says "Did you mean berdache?" so I tried that. The definition for berdache (also called "Two-Spirit") fits correctly in this context so I'm guessing that this doesn't actually have anything to do with German Fuel Procurement.


Interestingly enough, the Wikipedia entry on "Steel Horse Bailey" states that a man with that name or nickname is rarely ever actually sorry for adding humor to or hijacking a thread on women's clothing.

It's amazing what you find on the internet.
;D

Quote from: Ottawa Creek Bill on August 20, 2010, 05:23:33 PM
Those were the men of the tribe that dressed and acted like women and had female traits. Do I need to go any further?

Bill


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
"May Your Powder always be Dry and Black; Your Smoke always White; and Your Flames Always Light the Way to Eternal Shooting Fulfillment !"

kflach

Nope, no further explanation required.

I can think of a few young ladies who would look abslotely stunning wearing this.

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