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Colt New Service
« on: January 22, 2010, 11:21:16 AM »
Hi,
I have an opportunity to buy a Colt New Service revolver in 38-40 Cal. Is this a approved Ncows firearm?  According to
internet articles it was introduced in 1898.  The approved list does not list any model 1898 but lists the New Police.  Is this
the same as the New Police?  Since it is double action, what categories could it be shot in?
Regards
Colt Fanning

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Re: Colt New Service
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2010, 11:46:19 AM »
   The Colt new service is NCOWS legal. May be used as a main match gun.    jt
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Re: Colt New Service
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2010, 11:50:28 AM »
Thanks for the info.
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Re: Colt New Service
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2010, 01:49:05 PM »
St. George's Notes XXXV - The Colt New Service...
« on: December 03, 2007, 11:32:06 AM »     

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One thing about folks in the Old West - they weren't afraid of innovation and new things, when it came to firearms.

One of the 'new things' was the Colt 'New Service' revolver that came about in November, 1898 - though you'll see 'Aug. 5, 1884' on the barrel.

That refers to the Carl J. Ehbets patent covering the swingout cylinder.

Standard barrel length is 7 1/2", though 4 1/2" and 5 1/2" are common as are lanyard loops.

It's a large-frame double action, built for large-caliber ammunition, and is 'legal in NCOWS.

Here's a synopsis:

Old Model - 1898-1909 - standard frame - #0 - 21,000

Target Model - 1900-1909

1909 Transition Model - standard and Target - #21,000 - 23,000

Improved Model, standard and Target - 1909-1917 - #23,000-143,000

1909 U.S. Military/1914 British Military - 1914-1917 - #65,000-139,000

1917 U.S. Army - 1917-1919 - #150,000-305,000

Improved Model - standard and Target - 1919-1928 - #303,000-328,000

Late Model - standard and Target - 1928 - End of Production - #328,000 - 356,914

(Sutherland - 'The Book of Colt Firearms'; Graham, Kopec and Moore - 'A Study of the Colt Single Action Army'; Serven - 'Colt Firearms')

This is a 'large' revolver - like the old Model 1878 - and it's doubtful if many saw a lot of holster use as opposed to saddlebag use, since the need to repel attackers was less prevalent by their time of introduction, though activities remained 'sudden' along the Mexican Border.

It was a powerful piece - chambered in .476 Eley, 455 Eley, .450 Eley, .45 Colt, .44-40, .44 Russian and .38-40.

A look at the 'Blue Book' and on the various auction sites will show prices all over the range - so condition is paramount.

If it's parkerized - it's a WWII-refinished piece - if it's 'brush blue - it's a WWI piece, since the military's demands weren't as stringent as those of the civilian purchaser's and a non-reflective surface was pretty desireable.

Other finishes were Colt's commercial blue in use at the time, with a few in nickel, and those early blued guns are quite beautiful, featuring fire-blued screws, hammer and trigger.

Regrettably - that wasn't always a truly durable finish and could be prone to flaking - ala' that od the various .38 D.A. Models 1892, '94, '96, '01 and '03 - resulting in Government refinishes and upgrades.

Though double-action - it has a long, hard trigger pull - and that's with a fitted action, so the hand span needed leaves smaller-sized shooters at a disadvantage, unless it's thumb-cocked.

Do you need one?

Hard to say - but the Old Model was used during the waning days of the Frontier, and the Model 1909 saw active service before we selected the M1911,  and it carried on long after as a powerful revolver for an outdoorsman's use.

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Re: Colt New Service
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2010, 09:01:39 PM »
I used a New Service in 45 Colt at the NCOWS Nationa shoot last year.  They are a hoot to shoot!! ;D

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Re: Colt New Service
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2010, 12:20:31 PM »
St. George, thanks for posting the history lesson.


I WANT one in 45 Colt.  'Tho I'd settle for one of the WWII refurbs, an original or even the WWI version would be fine.
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Re: Colt New Service
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2010, 05:38:20 PM »
WOW!!

Is that the one they used to use on the TV Superman with George Reeves?

As in 'Faster than a speeding bullet!'?
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Re: Colt New Service
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2010, 11:34:43 PM »
I've got an Old model serial #15691 made on or before 1903 in 45 Colt that i might be persueded to paert with. What you got to trade?

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Re: Colt New Service
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2010, 12:32:18 AM »
If you watch closely on movies like The Long Riders, you'll see Dennis Quaid packin' one of those.
And-here we go :D- if you watch Bandidas, you'll see that Salma Hayek's gun is a Colt New Service with a fake ejector slide housing on the right side of the barrel. Now that I mention it, Dwight Yoakam's character packs a pair of Coltingtons! 8)
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Re: Colt New Service
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2010, 01:35:02 AM »
I've got an Old model serial #15691 made on or before 1903 in 45 Colt that i might be persueded to paert with. What you got to trade?


I'd consider it, but I don't really know if I have anything you might want.

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Re: Colt New Service
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2010, 04:00:16 PM »
Well, i would cosider cash but I do like to trade.

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Re: Colt New Service
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2010, 04:03:31 PM »
OK - this is where PMs are the preferred means of communication.

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Re: Colt New Service
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2010, 10:27:58 PM »
Didnt mean to offend, just a small attempt at humor

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Re: Colt New Service
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2010, 01:02:44 AM »
Didnt mean to offend, just a small attempt at humor


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