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Pump Shotgun Question NCOWS
« on: January 21, 2009, 11:04:06 AM »
I just joined NCOWS and will be shooting my first match at Greenville, TX this weekend. I'm delighted because I finally get to shoot my 93/97 in a CAS match. NCOWS showing more common sense in this regard than SASS. Anyway, up until now, I've been shooting my SxS's. Looking through the Tally Book, I cannot find an answer to a question I have about loading the pump shotguns. In NCOWS, can you load more than two rounds at a time, or are you restricted like SASS shooters to one in the chamber and one in the magazine? In other words, if a stage calls for 4 Shotgun rounds, can you load all four, or do you have to load and fire two at a time? Enquiring minds want to know. Thanks. ???

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Re: Pump Shotgun Question NCOWS
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2009, 11:11:15 AM »
In NCOWS you can load as many as you want.....loading on the clock.

Last year at he Nationals I finally got to see someone really blazing away with a '97.  It was pretty cool.


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Re: Pump Shotgun Question NCOWS
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2009, 11:36:43 AM »
  You can only load as many as there are targets to be engaged. If targets are knockdown you can't load an extra to pick up a target that dosen't go down.
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Re: Pump Shotgun Question NCOWS
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2009, 06:21:34 PM »
  You can only load as many as there are targets to be engaged. If targets are knockdown you can't load an extra to pick up a target that dosen't go down.

Start the stage with only as many loaded in the magazine as there are targets to be engaged in the stage directions, chamber empty. . . .but you usually can load off your person to pick up a target on the clock if one doesn't go down.

SxS hammered may start with hammers cocked, chambers empty.

Now Folks, before someone jumps all over me, I just reread the rules as written on our NCOWS website and it states loaded on the clock. BUT, I could swear that summer of 2007 we voted to allow the loading of shotguns up to the maximum called for by stage instructions in the magazine, but empty chamber.

I guess I am going to shuffle over to the sidelines and try not to confuse anyone.
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Re: Pump Shotgun Question NCOWS
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2009, 05:32:25 AM »
John, according to my notes, we voted to allow the full loading of magazine on the clock.  Of course, that did not mean loading more than the number of targets.
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Re: Pump Shotgun Question NCOWS
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2009, 07:36:03 AM »
My confusion since loading of the rifle magazine with empty chamber before the stage is universally practiced, I thought new law considered loading of the shotgun magazine while chamber empty would have been similarly safe.

As to my second statement, I don't think I've shot at any club where you couldn't load off the body on the clock additional shells if a shotgun target did not go down. But not stated in By-Laws, so it is left up to the individual clubs discretion.
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Re: Pump Shotgun Question NCOWS
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2009, 10:25:26 AM »

RCJ:

Not to speak for others, but I read the intent of that post as explaining that you may not stoke the SG with more rounds than the number of targets in anticipation of  a miss. That's not to say that targets missed could not be picked up by loading from the body (if permitted by stage instructions).


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Re: Pump Shotgun Question NCOWS
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2009, 11:10:15 AM »
   Right Dave, Thats what I meant but was apparently unable to articulate.   jt
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Re: Pump Shotgun Question NCOWS
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2009, 07:43:18 PM »
   Right Dave, Thats what I meant but was apparently unable to articulate.   jt


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