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Offline Diamond Dan

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identy 1860
« on: October 26, 2011, 08:39:24 PM »
picked up a .44 cal 1860 that looks as most;only markings are on the top of the barrel.
MADE IN ITALY FOR REPUBLIC ARMS CO.  DAYTON OHIO
 Any one have an id help,gun is at least 20 years old
Thanks  Diamond Dan :-\
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Offline wildman1

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Re: identy 1860
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2011, 03:26:42 AM »
DD check SCORRS RE:I'm Back. It has a list of date codes for Italian Repros. WM
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Re: identy 1860
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2011, 11:20:42 AM »
Look under the loading lever for additional markings.  Are there no proof marks or date code on the frame?  Pictures would help.  Here is the link to proof marks & date codes:

https://store.bluebookinc.com/Info/PDF/POWDER/MBPProofmarks.pdf
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Re: identy 1860
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2011, 12:08:38 PM »
I needed reading glasses and a magnifying glass to find one of the date marks on a Walker that I have. WM
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Re: identy 1860
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2011, 07:51:14 PM »
 :) Thanks for the great info;Helped me id it as a Uberti made in 1960
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Re: identy 1860
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2011, 04:07:08 PM »
 Now that I know its 50 plus years old we can joke about antquie repliacs
All said and done does any one know if the ''new'' conversion cyclinders work in these older guns
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Re: identy 1860
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2011, 07:00:44 PM »
Do not know but they work very well in the new ones. WM
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Re: identy 1860
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2011, 09:24:01 PM »
Quote from: Diamond Dan on October 28, 2011, 04:07:08 PM
Now that I know its 50 plus years old we can joke about antquie repliacs
All said and done does any one know if the ''new'' conversion cyclinders work in these older guns
 ::)

The Ubertis are, and have always been relatively faithful to the original Colt's dimensions.  This was even true when they were imported as G&U (Gregorelli & Uberti) years ago.  You'd have to ask Kirst if they ever had a fit problem, but as far as I know a Uberti is a Uberti,

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Re: identy 1860
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2011, 01:44:58 AM »
FWIW: According to my source at Uberti's they did not start making 1860 Army pattern pistols before April 1963.
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Re: identy 1860
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2011, 04:06:36 AM »
LJW what does your source at Uberti say is the date code for 2011? WM
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Re: identy 1860
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2011, 10:53:11 AM »
CH for 2011.
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Re: identy 1860
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2011, 12:09:30 PM »
 I thought 1960 as the Roman Numrials are XXVI
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Re: identy 1860
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2011, 12:13:37 PM »
 Forgot to say the date # are on the frame witch is finished in case hardning.that is also where the old syle uberti trademake is along with the prof markings   DD
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Re: identy 1860
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2011, 05:30:43 PM »
Diamond Dan please check the date code again.  As Wolf stated the earliest production of a Uberti 1860 Army is around 1963.  The Centennial 1860 Army was first produced.  At this time the earliest 1860 Army I have information on was imported by Replica Arms and supposedly manufactured by Armi San Marco.  XXVI is 1970, not 1960. 

This is the first time that, Republic Arms, Dayton Ohio, has come to my attention.  It, of course, is no longer in business but, possibly, there are some interesting ties between Davis Industries and a Republic Arms in Chino, CA.  This is some more of that great mystery that surrounds the replica revolver industry.

Is it possible to get a picture of the Republic Arms Dayton Ohio markings?
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Re: identy 1860
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2011, 07:03:38 PM »
Quote from: Long Johns Wolf on October 29, 2011, 10:53:11 AM
CH for 2011.
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Thanks, apparently they skipped a few letters between 2010 and 2011. That is what is on one of my Walkers. WM
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Re: identy 1860
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2011, 07:30:28 PM »
You're right 1970;These tired old eyes [and mind] playing tricks again. Have allready removed the markings as i think its much cleaner with a nice smouth barrel top. It definley has the uberti trade mark on the frame.
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