long barreled 3rd model dragoon

[Gassaway]

What would one of these be worth now days?  has 18 inch barrel, shoulder stcok and scabbard it came with.   nipples are a little worn and sanmarco front sigh has been replaced with a simple blade

[Major 2]

Replica's have not historically, gone the heavy collertor's route but it's in the fledgling stages.
Rarer models ..and some now gone early manufacturer's are starting to see some interest and respectible prices paid.

Armi San Marco is now out of Business and the 18" Dragoon would qualify as a low volume manufactured model.
With the fact it is now out of Production and somewhat rare..there could be good interest.
Price is however hard to judge... Condition ( NIB or well used ) having much to do with the Price Range.
What with a Strong Euro vs the US Dollar...New in box current production of models will have an influence.

If your buying, or are you selling ..... the value is how badly you want it or how gadly you need to sell it 

Sorry, to be vague...Pehaps someone can offer a current book on Blackpowder Arms values...

[Roscoe Coles]

As we say in the used gun trade, "its rare but so is the guy who wants one!"  It does not have much historical interest as Colt never made one, and its a big brute.  The shoulder stock is nice, wouldn't mind having one of them, but its not a top of the line maker so I guess you should take what you can get and that will be the price.

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[Gassaway]

actually colt did make a few in the mid 1850's  they made them  with a 12 "  and a 18"  they were one a couple made for army test in the end the army adopted thay silly 1855  single shot pistol ith shoulder stock.... typical army logic

[Colonel Buckshot]

if you got one Ill buy it have 13 Dragoons and each ones different been looking for the carbine.

[drjldavis]

It is interesting that in the last year a few of these 18" Barrel Dragoons have surfaced.  I have been collecting the replica black powder percussion revolvers for over 16yrs. now, and I have never seen one until recently.  A couple of these have turned up on the European market and have sold for around $700 to $1000.  The same is true in the U.S.  Last one I saw was last week on Gun Broker and it brought over $600. 

These were originally sold with a Flap type Holster and a steel hardware shoulder stock.  The straps on the holster would hold the shoulder stock when the pistol is holstered.  The highest serial number that I have come across is in the 5000+ range and it had a blue anodized brass shoulder stock rather than the steel shoulder stock.  I believe this brass stock to be original to this Dragoon since the production of steel shoulder stocks ended about this same time.  I own this Dragoon and two others with the steel stocks.  Armi San Marco was famous for using left over parts to assemble into production guns (I call these "Scrap" guns).  The anodizing on the brass stock is very deep and cannot be rubbed off.  I discovered that it was brass when I first noticed that it was smaller than the steel stocks I have.  I scratched it under the wood and found it to be brass.  Interestingly all parts of this stock are numbered and match including the wood.

These will definitely increase in value for collectors because of their uniqueness and rarity.  A replica steel frame Dragoon shoulder stock sold on EBay a couple of years ago for over $800.  Original shoulder stocks are priced at $4000+.

[Roscoe Coles]

actually colt did make a few in the mid 1850's  they made them  with a 12 "  and a 18"  they were one a couple made for army test in the end the army adopted thay silly 1855  single shot pistol ith shoulder stock.... typical army logic

Do you have a citation for the existence of long barreled dragoons?   I have never seen mention of one and a check with my pard who is very into early Colts said he had never seen or heard of an original one.  Not saying that they didn't exist, just asking for where I can find information on them.  You say that some were submitted for Army tests, were any produced for sale?

[Gassaway]

I cant remember the excat manual it came out I have a friend whom was a curator at the 6th cav museum. he had alot of oddball manauls and reprinted report from the 1850. one had made mention to the weapons being tested in the mid 1850 that resulted in the 1855 pistol/carbine that was issued to the dragoon regiments for a few years. it covered the competetor to that abomination. it had made mention of dragoons with 12" and 18" barrels as being test pieces. I think Honestly if any survived and didnt get chopped they would be about like the 45acp luger 7 made for the 1910-11 pistol competition and one one surviving now. sorry I cant get better info for you but honestly I did see the reference to them on that test.
guess the 1855 had a lot more going for it , fired .58 Cal mini's and had that wonderful manyard tape primer system.   How could the army have gone wrong

[Roscoe Coles]

Gassaway:
  Fair enough, but that would mean that they were test guns and never actually in production by Colt. 

[Gassaway]

very true , but a very few were made so i guess  for cas it is legit. now ya need one in a conversion!!