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Man With No Name Revolvers
« on: August 10, 2009, 06:31:27 PM »
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YEE HAW!!!!!!!!           YEE HAW!!!!!!!         YEE HAW!!!!!!!
Received a phone call from Chris at Buffalo Arms this afternoon.  Seems the pair of Man With No Name revolvers I ordered back in February were now in stock & would be shipped out TODAY!!!!!!  Should be in hand by the weekend.

Can't wait to try out my somewhat belated B-day present.

Guess now I need to find some bullets for em.  

Anyone know where a body can acquire some .38s?????
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Re: Man With No Name Revolvers
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2009, 09:32:05 PM »
Fingers,
I just picked up my "Man with no name" two days ago.  I ordered it back in Dec. '08.  I almost gave up on it.  My dealer said it might take a year for it to come in, and I was thinking "yeah, right" :)  Anyways, it is a very nice pistol.  Obviously, it's new and therefore it's very tight.  It needs broken in.  Probably going to need an action job at some point.  Hammer spring is very heavy, well at least for me it is.  I bought this to go with my Richards-transition 7 1/2", .38 pistol and that I would shoot them in Duelist.   Can't wait to get out and shoot them in a match!

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Re: Man With No Name Revolvers
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2009, 10:55:39 PM »
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Obviously, it's new and therefore it's very tight.  It needs broken in.  Probably going to need an action job at some point.  Hammer spring is very heavy, well at least for me it is.  I bought this to go with my Richards-transition 7 1/2", .38 pistol and that I would shoot them in Duelist.   Can't wait to get out and shoot them in a match!

Mine havent shown up yet - maybe tomorrow.  Have some Desperado bullets ordered in different weights.  Set of .38 dies coming from Cabelas (Haven't had the need to reload .38s til now).  With ammo still hard to find, I managed a couple boxes of smokeless Cowboy .38s.  The Desperados will be loaded with BP.  As soon as they arrive, theyll be torn down & deburred, then a lond session at the range trying out the smokeless and BP rounds.  May even load some BP sub rounds - T7, Pinnacle, and APP.  I dont have a chronograph, so test results will be mainly for accuracy & feel.

FM
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Re: Man With No Name Revolvers
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Re: Man With No Name Revolvers
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2009, 06:58:00 PM »
Pistols have arrived.  Action on one is useable.  The other has a hitch in it and a 3/4 ton truck spring working the hammer.  Will tear them down & do a little smoothing & swap the spring before they hit the range.  Have a CAS match tomorrow, so will have to wait til Monday.

Bullets have arrived.  Dies have arrived.  Monday will also be spent loading some ammo.  Tuesday will be range day to try them out with smokeless, BP and sub loads.
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Re: Man With No Name Revolvers
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2009, 09:04:07 PM »
Fingers,
My pistol seemed to have a "hitch" in it as well.  My dealer asked if anything was wrong and we decided on cleaning it and seeing if the "hitch" might go away.  I did clean it and racked the hammer about 50 times.  It seems like it is smoothing out.  That is why I said before that it was just tight and might, make that will need an action job.  My Richards transition seems real smooth compared to this one.  I need to get it out and just shoot it a bit I think.  What specifically are you going to "smooth out" on your pistol?  I am in no way a do it yourself type gunsmith. 

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Re: Man With No Name Revolvers
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2009, 11:10:41 PM »
It's been my experience with C&Bs, whether they were made by Colt, Uberti or Pietta, that they could use an internal deburring of parts.  Hand and hand channel in the frame usually have rough spots and burrs that can cause the 'hitch'.  A too long hammer spring can also cause the hitch. 
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Road Test Part 1
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2009, 04:40:55 PM »
Tore both pistols down earlier this week.  Gun #1 was fairly smooth out of the box and teardown didnt reveal anything out of the ordinary.  The frame was remarkably clean, no grit or big burrs.  There was a seam on the hand channel that needed to be filed and stoned off, and there were a couple sharp edges in the hammer channel that were scratching the hammer.  Again,a little filing and stoning took care of it.  I stoned/polished the hand and bolt as well as some crocus cloth and file to the hand channel - I really need to buy some hand channel stones to do it right though.  Cleaned the gun thoroughly - which was a real chore.  Thought I'd never get the rust out of the barrel .  I must of scrubbed it for 30 min before it was even close to clean.  Reassembled the pistol and cycled the action.  It was improved; but some Wolfe springs would have really made it nice.

Gun # 2 is a wholly different story.  It really needed some work on the frame as well as the hand (as it turned out, I didn't do enough).  Like gun#1, I filed and polished the hand channel and hammer channel, and polished the bolt.  THe hand, now, was a different animal.  It looked like someone took a piece of slag & tried to make a hand out of it.  One side was fairly smooth, but the other had a rough gouge taken out of it between the pivot & tooth.  The front face was almost straight with some rough rasp tracks across it.  I did some work to it, trying to smooth out the rasp tracks & contour it like the other one, polished the sides and hoped it would take the hitch out of the action.  The bore on this one was just as rusty as gun #1 and took 30 min or so to clean.  Then, as with #1, I reassembled it an cycled the action.  The hitch was still there; but not as bad.  Again, Wolfe spring should improve it like gun #1


Loaded up a variety of BP loads; 105gr Desperado rnfp w/20 gr Goex Cartridge; 125 Desperado rnfp w/20 gr Goex Cartridge; 158 gr Desperado rnfp w/18 gr Goex Cartridge; and a few 158 gr Desperado rnfp w/18 gr Kik fffg.  Also picked up a box of Magtech 158 gr rnfb smokeless loads and a couple boxes of Great Basin Cart Co. 125 gr rnfp smokeless loads.

Took the guns out Thursday for a test firing.  Set up some targets at about 12 yards & proceeded to test fire off of a pistol rest.  Now, I've never been able to shoot worth a darn off of a rest - everything wants to go high. Starting with the 158 gr Magtech rounds, the first five rounds out of pistol #1 were in the center of the target l to r; but were about 8 inches above the bullseye.  Group was about 1.5 to 2".  next five did about the same thing.  Then moved to the 125gr Great Basin rounds.  The groups came down some; but were still high, centered & about 2".

Moving on to the BP rounds, I started with the 105gr Desperados.  Was not happy with these at all.  They were all over the paper and some keyholed.  The 125 gr Desperados and 158 grain Desperados performed about like the smokeless loads. 


Did the same testing with gun #2 using same loads and having about the same results.  Although it keyholed the 105s and 125 gr BP loads.  This pistol also locked up a few times.  This is the one that had the hitch in it when dry firing.  Only now, with cases in it, it deided to lock up every few rounds. 

All together, I put 70 rounds through each gun - 50 BP rounds and 20 smokeless rounds - without doing any cleaning .  Neither gun showed any signs of binding up.
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Road Test Part 2
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2009, 04:59:30 PM »
Brought the guns home and pumpd some bore cleaning foam down the barrels & in the chambers.  When I took them down, I realized that I had not oiled or used any bore butter on the arbors when I reassembled tham after the initial teardown & cleaning.  Amazing that there was no binding from fouling.  The bushing that extends from the cylinder face to the barrel sure does it's job keeping the fouling out.

Tore pistol #2 down again to determine what was causing the lock-up and hitch.  Turns out that the hitch was the bolt not retracting all the way before the hand started to turn the cylinder.  A little more filing/polishing on the hand (about 30 min more or so) solved the problem.  Gun #2 is now as smoth as #1.

Oh, yeah.  All of the groups from each gun off the pistol rest were high.  With the height of the front sight, ther is no way this should have been - As I said, whenever I use a rest, I tend to shoot high.  So,.......... I ran a couple cylinders full through each gun off hand.  While the groups were larger than 2", they were all in the POA vicinity.  Some more practice, once I settle on a BP loading, should make them more than adequate for SASS competitions
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Re: Man With No Name Revolvers
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2009, 01:32:15 PM »
Ho Fingers.....

Are yours this Buffalo arms version??



Looks reeeeely nice, is it basically a Uberti ? How in the world can they let a pistola out through the door with RUST!!! The QC dpt want firing!! >:(

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Re: Man With No Name Revolvers
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2009, 04:08:53 PM »
I suspect it didn't go out the door with rust.  Despite being glombed through and through with slimy oil, they rust on the slow boat from Italy.

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Re: Man With No Name Revolvers
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2009, 07:16:55 PM »
PUK, I didnt spring for the snake grips.  Couldn't see paying the extra $175 or so, and when I tried out one that had snake grips, they weren't comfortable.

I'm sure it was the slow boat that did it.  They run a few rounds to make sur they work, then box em up.  If they would just oil the bores, it would help.  These were dry, dry, dry.

FM

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