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Some of the guys in our flight facility (NE-ARNG) are pondering getting some rifles made into a commerative for our outfit.  Nothing super fancy, but maybe "Old Bill" lasered into the buttstock & some engraving on the sides of the receiver.

At this point, I think we are getting behind either the Marlin Cowboy M1894 or one of the octgonal M-1892 (Winchester clones).  Our engraver is trying to point us in the direction of stainless steel. 

What do you gunsmith guys recommend?  Or something entirely different?

BTW:  We do not have the A and A Engraving-type budget [big $$$$$].  We need to keep the costs reasonably low enough for us working stiffs.

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Re: What model rifle would you reccommend for building "new" commeratives?
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2009, 05:19:56 AM »
The Uberti models of the '66 Winchester come to mind-- the side plates are easily engraved, and the price and availability are good.
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Re: What model rifle would you reccommend for building "new" commeratives?
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2009, 12:55:12 PM »
I also think the 66 would be a good rifle to work with, but if it's stainless that you're after, I'd opt for the Ross 92.
They come in quite a few handsome variations these days from the various importers. 

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Re: What model rifle would you reccommend for building "new" commeratives?
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2009, 08:15:24 PM »
If you're looking to keep the cost down, go with the Rossi '92.

If cost isn't  a factor, go with the '66 in a true round barreled carbine.  (I never did like "short rifles".  Personal preference.)  A 24" octagonal barreled rifle is also all kinds of classy.
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Re: What model rifle would you reccommend for building "new" commeratives?
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2009, 08:22:25 PM »
I have to agree with 40R about going for the '66 if outlay isn't an issue. The brass really looks great engraved. I also agree that the Rossi '92 is the way to go with Stainless or if initial cost is an issue. How about going to a private mint and having medallions made that can be inlaid into the stock? That could be brass on a '66 or silver metal on a Rossi. I like inlaid medallions on commemorative rifles. I guess your engraver could do a brass or stainless disk to get inlaid, as easily. It just wouldn't have that 3-D look of a medallion.

The carbine has a nicer buttplate than the rifles. True, the crescent buttplate is cool-looking but the carbine fits anyone's shoulder.

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Re: What model rifle would you reccommend for building "new" commeratives?
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2009, 12:26:20 AM »
Thanks, fellers!

Yes, the cost is a big factor here.  So we probably won't go with the '66's or '73's.  But they would look cool.
 
I would like to do the Marlin M-1894 Cowboys with the octagon barrels + they are USA-built, to boot.

Our engraver is steering us toward stainless so they won't need to be re-blued after the engraving.  So that would have to be the M-1892 clones to be stainless.

The medallion is a good idea too.

Tough call, indeed!

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Re: What model rifle would you reccommend for building "new" commeratives?
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2009, 07:32:36 AM »
Be sure to post a picture of one after you have them. This sounds like a fun project.

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Re: What model rifle would you reccommend for building "new" commeratives?
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2009, 06:51:15 AM »
Yes, the re-blue is an added expense and more work.  The brass on the '66 would not need to be refinished.  The brass is also easily engraved.  The 20" carbine is fairly inexpensive, but the '92 clones are less expensive, don't know how stainless would compare, haven't checked prices in a while.  Whatever your decision, best wishes and enjoy.  Post some pics so we can see how they turn out.
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Re: What model rifle would you reccommend for building "new" commeratives?
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2009, 06:17:54 PM »
Do you have some kind of unit crest or insignia, maybe an enameled crest or collar device? I've seen some of those in the 1" x 1 1/2" range inlet into stocks and epoxied onto receivers with some very good results.  That, with some custom engraving, would result in a beautiful keepsake, heirloom, or just simply a wonderful looking shooter. 

The same crest could be pinned to a scabbard to carry the theme further.  Ask some of our leather workers how this could be dome without damaging the rifle.
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Re: What model rifle would you reccommend for building "new" commeratives?
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2009, 12:54:40 AM »
Have you thought about a new Henry .22?
less expense, American made, brass receiver. 
Just an idea a bit outside the box.
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Re: What model rifle would you reccommend for building "new" commeratives?
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2009, 10:57:11 AM »
Not only are those Henrys good looking, but they're great shooters.

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Re: What model rifle would you reccommend for building "new" commeratives?
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2009, 05:06:26 PM »
Fellers:

No, we hadn't even pondered the little brass Henry .22's.  I had brought up the Marlin .22's & that didn't go over very well.  I will suggest the Henry Golden Boys next.  Yep, the refinishing would be less $$$$ outlay.

40 Rod----Good idees on the insignia mounted on a leather scabbard, too.

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Re: What model rifle would you reccommend for building "new" commeratives?
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2009, 04:26:44 PM »
OOOOH!!

I just checked the prices on the Henry GB's.  :o  Higher than I recollected. 
We still don't know if they have SOLID brass receivers or not.  ???
Still looking.

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Re: What model rifle would you reccommend for building "new" commeratives?
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2009, 07:05:07 PM »
The receivers on the .22 Henry's are just sheet metal.  You can actually remove it and send it somewhere if you want it engraved.  I don't know if it has been pointed out yet (since I was lazy and didn't read the whole thread) is that you better buy something you like and intend to keep.  Once a gun is engraved as a "commemorative" for a special group it has zero resale value.

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Re: What model rifle would you reccommend for building "new" commeratives?
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2009, 06:24:51 PM »
Pettifogger:

You are correct about the rifle becoming a "keeper" (white elephant) once it gets engraved. 
Actually the consensus now is to buy several .45-70 Marlin 1895 Cowboys & getting only the wood lasered with "Old Bill" and maybe some lettering too.

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Re: What model rifle would you reccommend for building "new" commeratives?
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2009, 07:21:25 PM »
You can have those insignia inlaid into the stocks, too
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