Ace, the little cheap skiver works better for me than the slightly more expensive Super version, probably what one gets used to. What I do find much quicker and handier for general small skiving jobs is the belt and/or drum sanders. If you are talking bullet loops, then by all means buy that leather in the correct weight to begin with. Years ago I even tried one of the small 6" pull through type skivers and was sorely disapointed in it for most uses. I use 4/5oz for the 32-20 through .410 loops and 6-7oz for the 20, 16 and 12 guages, whether single loop, double loop or double pouch. What I see a lot of in use for the molded double pouches, made by others, appears to be 8/9oz.