Who was making Brass Framed Navy's (in 44) in the 1960s?(Pics added)

[Mogorilla]

I do not have them in my possession yet, but I am being given 2 brass framed navy colt clones in .44,both with 12 inch barrels.   The person who is giving them to me is in her 60s (sorry had to tell her approximate age, not a gentlemanly thing to do.) and they were her fathers.  He recently passed.  She said he bought them in Silver Dollar City when it was a cave, and se was ~5 years of age which would acutally be in the late 50s, allowing for some fogginess of memory I put it in early 60s.   Can't beat the price so, brass or no I am getting them on Monday.   Just curious who was making them and hoping the long barrels will interchange with some of my piettas.  

Update:
Both are really crisp and tight.  I am guessing few shots made with either one.  I could only get a clear picture of the right side of the barrel and the whole gun.  (brass frames, even tarnished ones still are a pain in the brass to take a picture of with out flash interferring.)   Here are the pics.  (not seeing anything on left of frame other than black powder only on barrel)

[Fingers McGee]

Gregorelli & Uberti started in around 1958 which evolved into A. Uberti around 1964.  Then there was GBL (or is it BLG?), COM, MOFRA, and PR.  Pietta, Armi San Paolo and Armi San Marco came along later.  Her buntline .44 'Navies' should have a date code on the left side of the frame.

[Mogorilla]

Will get them on Monday, and hope to post pics then.  I have handled them, surprisingly great shape for supposed age, just did not have a camera.

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[Mogorilla]

Pics added

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

https://store.bluebookinc.com/Info/PDF/POWDER/MBPProofmarks.pdf

The AA in the box indicates a year of manufacture as 1975.  Maybe reading this link will help in identifying odd bits of stamping?

[Mogorilla]

Thanks for that link.  Way newer pistols than I was told, but price was still right at 0.   looks like the rest are typical proof marks.  Taking it apart tomorrow to see if can find any maker mark.

[Sir Charles deMouton-Black]

I have an 1861 Colt Navy reproduction revolver.  I bought it used and it was registered and advertised as an Uberti.  The serial number was N 19xx.  other than the two standard Gardone proof marks and the year code XXIV (1968) it was unmarked.  When I tried to swap out the cones I was surprised that the only ones that screwed in were the same as I was using for Pietta revolvers. Somewhere I had read that before Uberti made parts for the Series II Colts everyone in Italy used the same cone size.  It seems that Uberti had to accomodate the origional Colt thread, and never went back.

Last year I was talking to the Stoeger parts guy for Canada, and he allowed as this was likely.  So seeing your revolvers with few markings other than the proof marks rang a bell.  Most of the marks we are used to seeing on these revolvers must have come later.  Uberti sold directly to Canada and the U.S. rules for marking may not have applied, either.

I also ran into a glich when I tried to shoot it with TRESO cones, and it jambed up by failing to have enough room to allow the nipples to rotate with caps on them.  I emptied that cylinder by fitting it on my Uberti 1851, it went like it belonged there.  Later I re-installed the cones that came with the 1861.  Then I noticed that the unknown to me prior owner had installed high quality cones that worked perfectly with the Remington #10 caps I was testing.  So, no need to fool around with the Tresos.

This was a bit of a Hijack, but shows how some older revolvers can surprise us.

[Fingers McGee]

Thanks for that link.  Way newer pistols than I was told, but price was still right at 0.   looks like the rest are typical proof marks.  Taking it apart tomorrow to see if can find any maker mark.

Check under the barrel for makers mark.  Being a 1975 manufacture, It could be ASM, Pietta or Uberti.  What exactly does it say on the barrel?  "Blackpowder only" or "SM Blackpowder only"?

[Hoof Hearted]

Howdy!

Based on the grip shape and the trigger profile, I'm venturing to say it's an ASM.
Is the hammer spur checkered or serrated?

Regards, HH

[WaddWatsonEllis]

Hi,

I had one of those 'guns that never was', a .44 Cal '51 Colt. I use it for reenactment ... most of the time it just sits in the holster (in fact it is the one pictured in my profile). Only a purist would notice the two 'step' cylinder and frame ....

But I could never find a Manufacturers stamp ... sure it was Italian ... proof marks and Age of the pistol were reversed from the pics shown above and were on the right side of the frame (just below the cylinder) ... and the proof marks were also on the rt side of the barrel in between and just above the barrel pin and ram axle/screw.

On the mouth of the Barrel (on the side of the barrel just below the right horizontal side of the octagonal barrel was the marks stamped: SM BLACK POWDER ONLY .44 CAL MADE IN ITALY.

But the real clue was that on the top of the barrel near the cylinder it read: 'HARTFORD CT MODEL'.

I tried everything to identify it when I first got the pistol. Then reenacting season got going and I forgot all about it until just now ... I was whining to St Charles about it , and he did a Google for "HARTFORD CT MODEL' and suggested that I contact EMF .... and just today Becky in customer service called back to say that it was made by Armi San Marcos (SM) for EMF and that it was sold on 7/20/1998.

It is still 'the gun that never was', but now I know that it was an EMF/Pietta 'gun that never was' ....

TTFN

[Mogorilla]

Hey Fingers, it says DOM (could be COM like in your post, but I swear it is DOM) under the barrel. 

[Fingers McGee]

Hey Fingers, it says DOM (could be COM like in your post, but I swear it is DOM) under the barrel. 

Probably COM.  It's a manufacturer that has never really been nailed down.  Here's oneofmaany posts on another forum baout COM, DOM, and PR marked revolversfrom the 70s
http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=399140&highlight=dom