Help identifying Remington .36

Started by Pettifogger, September 22, 2008, 07:48:16 PM

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Pettifogger

Picked up a Remington .36 at a show last week.  Thought it was a Pietta.  However, after getting it home and looking at it with my glasses on it is something I have not seen before.  The first photo is the gun, the second shows the standard proof marks and date code (LVI is 1960, so it is pretty old for an Italian reproduction) and the markings on the bottom of the barrel.  The makers mark looks like "G.U."  The last photo is the serial number, i.e., 51.  As far as I know, Pietta didn't start making 58 Remingtons until the mid-1960s.  Anyone have any idea who made this one?






hellgate

Maybe Uberti's first name was Guiseppi?  I'm kidding but it could be a Uberti or Euroarms as evidenced by the small amount of metal surrounding the barrel where it screws into the frame. The Piettas are very "meaty" there. I can't remember the 3 initials of the founders of Euroarms but the stamping from that company was a circle with the three overlapping initials of the company founders. Obviously, this is an early model. Eventually Uberti's stamping was the muzzle end of an octagonal barrel with a "U" inside the bore. The low front sight suggests a Euroarms gun to me. That's my guess.
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if memory serves: Congrats. that stands "G" for Vittorio Gregorelli and "U" for Alberto Uberti. The first guns made for Al Forgett were marked that way when Gregorelly and Uberti worked together in the early days. They later went their separate ways and "U" eventually became the famous Uberti/Gardone company.
This pistol is surly a rare collector's piece, particularly in that condition. You may want to consider making it known to Dr. Jim Davis of RPRCA for his studies on early replica percussion revolvers.
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Pettifogger

Quote from: Long Johns Wolf on September 23, 2008, 01:14:23 AM
if memory serves: Congrats. that stands "G" for Vittorio Gregorelli and "U" for Alberto Uberti. The first guns made for Al Forgett were marked that way when Gregorelly and Uberti worked together in the early days. They later went their separate ways and "U" eventually became the famous Uberti/Gardone company.
This pistol is surly a rare collector's piece, particularly in that condition. You may want to consider making it known to Dr. Jim Davis of RPRCA for his studies on early replica percussion revolvers.
Long Johns Wolf

You may be close, I forgot to put down the barrel address, it's "Navy Arms Co. Inc. Bogata N.J. USA".  I have not previously seen Navy Arms guns with the Bogata address.

Flint

Now you've jogged my memory, yes it was once Gregorelli & Uberti.  Navy Arms has changed address a few times, and Bogata may have been the first one.  They moved again within the last few years.
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Pettifogger

Guess I'll have a tough time finding a mate for it.

Mason Stillwell

Then in that case Larsen let me remove some of that stress. Just send it to me and I will include it into my safe and guard it with my life.
You will then be stress FREE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D

Mason

OH I might shoot it just a little bit.
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drjldavis

You have a very rare and hard to find 1st year of manufacture Remington New Model Navy made by Uberti.  RPRCA has several "G.U" initialed revolvers but no Remington .36cal New Model Navy.  Don't shoot but hold on to it.  I was talking to Val Fogett Jr. a few years back at the Shot Show in Las Vegas.  I told him that I had picked up a NIB Navy Arms Leech & Rigdon with the "GU" initials.  He was very excited and told me how rare these revolvers were.  They only put the "GU" initials on the very first guns they produced.  They are all Uberti's.  Wolf's info is on the money for what the initials stand for.  After these first "partnership" revolvers were produced, Uberti went on his own and the initials were dropped.

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Pettifogger

It appears unfired.  Good thing I didn't start customizing it.  On the other hand, looks like I'll never find another and you always need two to shoot.

Mason, guess that means you're out of luck.  I know you wouldn't want it unless you had a pair to shoot.

John Taylor

After reading this post I remembered that I had a 36 cal Remy so I went to look at it. Could the mark on this one be Uberti ? It has a 4 digit S/N and is marked Lyman on top of the barrel.
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Pettifogger

Yep, that's the Uberti logo.  That's why I couldn't figure out exactly what I have.  Mine has no logo.

hellgate

That logo (Uberti) is the muzzle end of an octagonal barrel with a "u" inside the bore. There's even the front sight on the top.
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